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Hillwilliam -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 5:34:45 AM)

With that, folks, maybe we should let it rest and allow VAA to carry out the mortuary duties shortly.



LaTigresse -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 5:36:12 AM)

I think that is the flip side of the coin of this wonderful method of communication.

We invest so heavily is perceived personalities, somewhere, out there.........we create expectations of the people we imagine them to be. We project so many of our own qualities onto those personalities.

In this case, we projected sound mental health, and.........actual physical bodies. We projected our own version of reality. So in a sense, shame on us. It's a pretty broad assumption.......considering all of the possible alternatives.

I know I came across like a bull in a china shop.....it's one of my 'charms'.

I understand people being hurt, angry, or even wanting to give the cyber hand flip and say something like "don't care, never understood why anyone cared or believed". I get that, all of it. I also get that, in our own little world, our feelings of betrayal, hurt, anger, whatever.....are very easily justified. Based upon OUR OWN reality, values, morality........and mental soundness.

When Bob wrote me a few weeks ago with his fears and what he was going to do........I totally knew that it was a powder keg that was likely to blow. And it did. Understandably.

Here is a secret......I almost wonder if a profile I have been communicating with a lot in the last month, on the other side, that went wonky this last week......isn't another creation. Now that is going to fucking suck. I kinda liked the old broad and had a few crusty hopes of her actually being a standup dame and getting out from behind the computer.

Yet, call me crazy.......I just keep going back to the whole idea of no matter how much these personalities fuck with me, us, whatever........the totally fucked up agony of the person behind it smacks me between the eyes. And I just cannot get nasty mad. Just really sad.....for them.

My life is going to go on. All the wonderful and amazing stuff that makes me happy stays. I've got no one here sobbing in misery. I am not watching anyone I love hurting. That is my own selfish rational. But the disgusting ooey gooey middle of me, is still feeling for someone/s hurting. It's no different than how I feel when I walk by the bridges in Iowa City and get screamed at by the homeless guys living underneath. It's not personal, it's their hell. The human being inside of me hurts for the human being in them. I cannot rage against them for their actions against me when I know they didn't choose to be the way they are. Not really.



AlwaysLisa -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 5:42:38 AM)

~FR~

I finally read this thread, and wish I could say I was shocked, but I can't.  Nothing that happens surprises me much these days.  Out of this mess, has there arisen a way to prevent this from happening in the future?

I know I am on the sidelines and truly had no idea any of this was going on, but the pain that was inflicted on others, should not be allowed to transpire again. 

Do I believe the apology to be sincere?  Not so much.  A quiet letter to the Mods, instead of another public display would have, in my mind, added a bit more credence to the words. 



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 5:55:35 AM)

I was banned over this altercation. I am sure that this post is going to lead to my profile being permanently banned on cm. Back in early december I provided VAA a number of links that were passed on to me as well as some that I had found myself.

she repeatedly stated that the haytch house was not a bunch of socks and that not all of these profiles were arpig. this could of all been brought to a head back in early december instead it took over a month to figure out what was evident day 1.

I'm sorry the majority of your so stupid, gullible and dumb. Lat, as well is so many others have to be feeling pretty damn foolish at this point.

it seemed as if VAA was much more concerned about protecting arpig than the dignity of this site.

this should have all been put to bed over a month ago. I will start of thread about this over on fetlife if anyone is interested about what actually transpired on this matter.

Take care. I used to really enjoy cm.

Adios,

Lord Master Domiguy



CeriseNin -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:03:28 AM)

Wow...

I'm so sorry you're having to deal with what something like this that's, in my opinion, pretty damn traumatic. I'm on the outside of all of this, but I can't help but feel overwhelming sadness for you. How in hell would I feel if I found out my mind had multiple personalities...terrified and confused, to say the least. I hope you get the help you need and heal as best you can, Arpig.



LaTigresse -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:05:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Domiiguy
I'm sorry the majority of your so stupid, gullible and dumb. Lat, as well is so many others have to be feeling pretty damn foolish at this point.


Adios,

Lord Master Domiguy


Actually no, I don't. Which I made perfectly clear to you in our email exchange the other day.

Unfortunately, for you, I sincerely believe you are complete incapable of understanding why. Sucks to be you.

Ciao.



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:13:28 AM)

keep a stiff upper lip, buttercup. those that were right were banned, while those that were duped or an actual party and guilty of the sock carnage are allowed to continue posting.

Way to go VAA. you really avoided a mess by not dealing with this in december.

Lat so sorry for you that there is not a house full of lesbians living in bliss.

SUCKAH!!



xxblushesxx -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:15:43 AM)

Domi, in your thread on fet, you said those of us who spoke out about them being socks were banned. That's not true for all. I think it probably had something to do with the way some people went about expressing themselves, rather than what they were expressing.



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:17:27 AM)

Lat, don't feel too bad. VAA refused to believe that they were socks as well.


when you chose to protect a person like arpig, over the dignity and integrity of the site this is what is going to transpire.

Ha ha ha....VAA, told you so.

before permanently banning me it might be nice if I might get an apology.



LaTigresse -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:18:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Domi, in your thread on fet, you said those of us who spoke out about them being socks were banned. That's not true for all. I think it probably had something to do with the way some people went about expressing themselves, rather than what they were expressing.


Blushes, believing that would involve dg taking responsibility for himself and his actions.......something he seems to be allergic to. He prefers to continue behaving like a shit flinging monkey and finding ways to justify it. Entertaining for awhile........if you've had a lot to drink or smoke. But then it just gets dull and boring. As the saying goes, same shit, different day.



stellauk -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:19:08 AM)

I have nothing much to add but a few words of compassion, which I feel is lacking in this thread.

I'm therefore sending out warmest wishes and positive vibes to Bob, ArPig that he may find the healing and the inner peace that he needs.

I'm also sending out warmest wishes and positive vibes to those who have been hurt over what has happened and again, that you all may find once again the healing and inner peace that you all need.

Please bear in mind it's not how much you have suffered or been wronged which is important, but how you have chosen to respond to the experience and what you have gained as a result.



JstAnotherSub -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:24:25 AM)

After thinking about this more, and reading the thread with my coffee this am, I just have to post a couple of things.

First, I hope Arpig finds help.  No matter how sickened I am by the absolute hatefulness I have seen from him, in all his incarnations, I can not imagine living in that head.  Good luck.

When the fab 4 first showed up, I thought they were full of shit and liars.  I found them to be mean, and really could not find one redeeming quality.  The fact that LaT found something good in them made me attempt to do so my self.  I had always found her thoughts to fall right in line with my own about folks, and I just could not figure out why I was so far off on this one.

Eventually, I just decided that I didn't care.  I decided that LaT was only taking up for them because they were cute lesbians, in fact I decided that the only reason anyone was buddying up to them was because they were cute lesbians.  After a comment LillyBoPeep made to be, I completely quit reading and responding to anything they said.  Thing was, I also quit posting on threads with subjects I cared about, because I was sick and tired of being called out by one of them on almost everything I posted.

I am sure LaT doesn't give one rats ass that my opinion of her dropped because of this fiasco.  I am sure that no one cares that I did not post because I was sick and tired of the shit.  I am sure VAA didn't care the day I shot her a message that I was leaving the site, because I was sick and tired of one little group of people being allowed to constantly be mean to folks and it just wasn't fun any more.

Blah, I am just typing so I can let this shit out and turn the page.  It just really is fucked up that this little fiasco went on for about 9 months.  What is more fucked up for me is, folks I had really come to appreciate their thoughts and opinions about stuff took a nosedive in my mind because they fell for the shit of this man.

The saddest thing for me is, it has actually stopped me from assuming the best about folks on this site.  Now, I assume everyone is fake and full of shit, and that makes it just purely entertainment, rather than a place I might actually learn something about kink and relationships.

Blah.  Thanks to Lilly for making me realize a while back that I was allowing them to get to me.  At least that helps me feel a lil less like a fucking fool.

To LP and others who were really hurt by all this, I can only imagine the anger you have.  I was just on the periphery and I gotta say, I am sickened by the entire mess.  Hitting enter on this post will be the page turning, I hope, and I won't give it any more thought directly, but it will affect how I interact for a while.

Good luck to all, and thanks to  VAA for letting us all vent.



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:25:21 AM)

All I did was start another thread out here on socks after one or two was closed down. it was apparent to me that we were not getting the results that we were looking for.

it was also very evident once you start to realize where these pictures originated, how they were being used to support several different profiles that all of the socks originated from arpig that immediate action was necessary.

but no, these people were allowed to continue posting. even though the evidence was present and handed over to VAA.

enjoy cm I'll come back out here as 5 er 6 socks, don't worry.


it's the cm way.



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:31:17 AM)

I definitely pushed this thing once I knew I was right.

Fuck arpig and the horrible fashion in which this whole thing was handled.



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:36:29 AM)

Sorry Lat, that your vision of a lesbiantopia was nothing but an illusion.

You might consider collaring arpig, you two seem to have so much in common.



LaTigresse -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:39:35 AM)

Keep digging there dg.



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:42:46 AM)

VAA chose to not act. She should not be applauded.



PeonForHer -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:44:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

With that, folks, maybe we should let it rest and allow VAA to carry out the mortuary duties shortly.


I think the mortuary duties are being carried out as each person writes with his or her feelings, HW. I do think it would be a very bad idea to close this thread down for a good time yet.



Fetters4U -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:52:17 AM)

Goodbye guys, and thanks for a most amusing dance.

The whole fab four thing was an interesting one. On one side, they had totally different personalities. On the other side, the flow of information between them was far too complete not to arouse suspicion. I never felt 100% sure either way, till now. Still, I was friends with heather. She is/was a sweet person and I will miss her. I wish Bob and the girls well, in whatever path they chose to walk.

I am sorry that so many were hurt by this. I never get into it with anyone, and have never invested myself personally in any thread. Consequently, I found their posts interesting and amusing. Many of the opinions expressed by the group were quite valid, regardless of the source; sometimes I agreed with them; sometimes I didn't. Regardless, it was probably hannah's posts that got me to read the boards in the first place, and for that I am fucking grateful. The personal-attacks-on-others stuff was unfortunate, unnecessary and it made me uncomfortable. That's is probably why, it was the "nice" one I was friends with. C'est la vie.

As Albert Einstein once said: "Reality is merely an illusion, although a very persistent one."

And so it goes....



Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:52:35 AM)

Some of these links were provided by other CM'ers. There identity shall remain anonymous as I am sure they have been most likely banned over this fiasco.



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