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Domiiguy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:53:38 AM)
"their"...damned voice recognition software.

Tantriqu -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 6:58:21 AM)
An interesting read about how multiple personality disorder/dissociative disorder may be removed as a psychiatric diagnosis, just as the 'Sybil' case was debunked: https://www.ptsdforum.org/c/gallery/-pdf/1-39.pdf

kalikshama -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:02:10 AM)
Hey Domi, I think your anger, frustration, and rage is totally justified. However, the way you're expressing it here does you no good. You were right, but is it worth getting a 4 month moderation or banned over? How about you delete your posts with the correspondence between you and mods before they get deleted? People can ask you for them privately. KK

Lockit -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:02:28 AM)
Everyone that was interested had varying takes on all of this. Some were very aggressive and I think it was that aggression and the accusations that most could not see and prove that turned a lot of this into the board nightmare that it was. When I investigated what I did, I knew it was either an elaborate plan or there were four different girls. I said the matter was settled in my mind but deep down it wasn't. Something wasn't sitting right and a few others felt the same way. The search continued and information was shared. My search slowed down, but I had already figured out that there were many other profiles that were suspect. More than was listed here. I kept getting links to things that would relate one picture to another and then some faces showed up for body parts... that were nothing like the four. Then accounts out there on the net started relating back to one man as far as we could tell. Without special powers we could prove nothing much, but in the end... we could prove where the pictures were coming from for the most part. I didn't connect that dot... someone else did. We kept our mouths shut for the most part... but we were very unhappy with how the whole situation was being handled and were sickened by what was found. Truly sickened and not just because of what was going on here that some could see. I'm not sorry to say arpig... but your computer should be investigated by professionals if you have a child in your care. You have been protected, even by me at times... but what you need is full exposure and to be taken care of by professionals. Why the full exposure? Because I doubt seriously that you are okay or that you have stopped many things shared here and more. I am not heartless, but truly believe you need to be hospitalized until it can be proven that you are not a harm, to more than adults on a web site. Your interests, whether they are you or one of your alternate personalities need to be controlled. Many have waited for a chance to express what they have felt and I haven't read this whole thread... but from what I have seen... you really need to be curtailed until you can control yourself and alternates. What I have seen is that some things have been shared and allowed and many other things hidden and that has helped to involve others and have many fooled. Many people were attacked in support of some of these alternates and some had no protection other than to walk away or prove they were not to blame. This isn't always just an online site and people on it. Some have real life connections and reputations etc. This taking so long to get resolved and those that felt guilty or anything negative because they suspected and dug and yet had no voice... even if they were not attacking and outright breaking tos... but just wished to expose an elaborate plan or mental health issue... really were trying to do the right thing in my view, but some got upset because no one was listening or paying attention and the situation continued to grow. I don't have the answers... and I am sorry that Bob, you have this mental illness... however... you really shouldn't be allowed to continue until you have proven that you have gotten the help you need. You were doing very well for a very long time and all was good and I am sure you can be again... but until it is known all that has been involved and all you or your alternates have done... my opinion is and my hope is that you won't be able to continue and will be more focused on finding out what all took place and not playing on many sites as you were. I will shut up now... but... I must say... I do feel you could be a danger to others and you escalated with protections that I hope will now be given to others while you get the help, I hope... that you need.

barelynangel -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:07:08 AM)
~~FR~~I am going to say something here.... i am one of the people who always preach this is just a message board and the internet etc. However, for those people who think the shoe is on the other foot for some people, when the "message board and internet" come offline and start creating havoc in your offline that is when it's no longer a message board and the internet. So for people who think the shoe is on the other foot aren't getting what has happened to some people based on the BS of this one person. So before you say the shoe is on the other foot, you may want to actually want to make sure the "shoe" is an exact match. From what i am understanding, for quite a few people, this wasn't only a message board irritation and problem. The other thing i want to say is this -- i don't believe Bob has an illness. I think this was a long drawn out game of a lonely man who had to figure out some way to end it all because it became to complicated and now it's going out with a big percussion solo. Maybe it IS true, but it just all seems a little "big tado" look at me, with the two other profiles posting then arpig posting etc. To me, someone with this type of illness wouldn't make such a big tado and continue on... The profiles enjoyed attention while they were hear and now, they are seeking it still. I think it's a good thing this thread will be locked down and the place can start being what it is -- a message board for discussion purposes. I am editing this post again because i don't want to keep posting posts lol but i never thought i would say this about something domiguy wrote: quote: it seemed as if VAA was much more concerned about protecting arpig than the dignity of this site. Yesterday when i was reading this thread i was very irritated that the mods allowed this thread to continue because to me, this whole fiasco has dumbed down on many levels the credibility and integrity of this site. And i felt the mods are validating it all because of the allowance of the other profiles to continue even on this thread. VAA made her comments about it and all in all, the decision is hers. However, CM has a dignity and integrity on many levels to protect as well as protecting that as much as you can with regard to the people posting here. And this whole fiasco has caused many regular posters to question that dignity even if they aren't realizing it yet. Unfortunately this fiasco has show the gullibility of websites such as this, and i appreciate the mods working to protect the site as much as they can, but what we are left with is the regulars who post here. It will be up to us to maintain the "dignity" and "credibility" and "integrity" of this site and as much as online can afford the PEOPLE who are posting here. The integrity questioned by people who have discussed on this board with others, the judgments people are throwing at each other because we all got played and now the person is claiming mental illness which may or may not be true and the same thing is STILL happening - people long of this board throwing out judgments to others long of this board and questioning their integrity and dignity. I think many people are feeling the difference, hopefully with time, it will feel comfortable for many again and comfortable with people they have long been comfortable with. Now i just hope the Lord doesn't strike me down for agreeing with something Domiguy said! [8\|] angel

mnottertail -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:11:54 AM)
Damn. Now I am feeling very vulnerable for beating on my shit those countless hours over those lesbians having sex with me every saturday night. I had thought of it as a truely life changing experince, but now I just feel cheap and dirty.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:14:58 AM)
Good luck in the future Bob. I'm glad this is all over now. Many people suspected this was the case for quite a while. (And I have to say I agree with Otter.'s post on pg 1)

Fornica -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:17:36 AM)
I'm somewhat hesitant to post on this, since I haven't been directly effected by any of the people/dude in question (other than one of the "girls" messaging me a few times). I feel for the people that have been hurt by this, it's painful to see, and I can't understand the cackling from the crowd..it's kinda gross. LadyPact, I know we butted heads in the other thread, but I feel for you, and Tazzy, and the hurt you are feeling. I really hope for healing for all involved. Anyways. From a psychological standpoint, what a poster before me stated is correct..someone suffering from MPD or DID absolutely would NOT steal photos and claim them as her/his own while in DID state. It just does not happen. During a DID episode, one sees THEMSELVES in a different form, and acts accordingly, like someone said above, they would take on that person, in dress, speech and action. Searching out very specific photos, making the decision to represent them as one's other in a DID state, it's like the brain working two different sections at once, which is psychologically impossible. (I'm terrible at explaining in type, I hope what I'm saying is coming out correctly..lol). The best analogy I can think of is this: Tom suffers from DID/MPD, or the like. They believe they are also an 80 year old dude from scotland who tends sheep, named Fred. While in the "Fred state", they take on the accent, dress like a shepherd, and can't figure out where the fuck the sheep are. They look in the mirror, and they see FRED. The scenario being..told..here is: While in lesbian girl state, (or main state?)...the alter state went on the computer and searched for an identity to represent themself as, and "created" that identity, rather than simply carrying OUT the identity that he already saw himself as. That takes conscious thought, planning, and manipulation. In my mind, based on what I've read from the posters/poster, all signs point to Narcissistic personality disorder. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001930/ Which, if my 2 dollar theory is correct, still makes this a sick man..but not a guiltless one. ~Fornica, who dropped out of psychology, but continued learning on her own, so take it as you wish..lol.

kalikshama -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:18:13 AM)
Alpha, Due to the extremely unique and bizarre circumstances here, I think you should consider a pardon of all those who were moderated due to their interactions with the alters, especially if they were modded for attempting to out the alters. The pardon would not say their behavior was or is acceptable, just an acknowledgment of the truly strange situation. Best, KK

Awareness -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:22:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse In this case, I mean seriously, imagine finding out that YOU YOURSELF, was perhaps not real, but instead the creation of some mentally ill person's imagination!!! I mean how totally fucked up scary is that?!? Most of us cannot even comprend, so we doubt. Or, attack. Or both. See this is the problem right here. This individual has clearly bought into the narrative which ArPig has constructed. She's so wedded to the idea of the hot lesbian household that she can't simply say "I was wrong". The narrative presented by the original post is damn seductive. The idea of a bunch of separate individual personalities trapped inside a body not their own, yet existing independently in some dream world. The trouble is, it's all complete nonsense. Those personalities do not exist except as separate psychosis-induced aspects of ArPig. They're all him, each one a separate fiction he's convinced himself is real. When he takes medication, they vanish. Allegedly. And that's the other problem right here. The only testimony we have about ArPig is from ArPig. And he's already demonstrated what a phenomenally unreliable narrator he is, so you cannot take anything he says as gospel. It could be lies - all of it - from top to bottom. There may be no individual called Bob who suffers from schizophrenia, DID, MPD and BBO. Let's make this clear LaTigresse, since you seem to have a problem with this. All those female personalities have a cock. They're not a bunch of hot lesbians that you can get all excited and cream your pants over. They. Do. Not. Exist. And finally, even if they did exist, their behaviour over the past 6 months has comprehensively demonstrated that they're a bunch of cunts anyway. So cry me a fucking river while you stick your head in the sand because a non-existent personality plastered the label "lesbian" all over themselves. You're truly a chauvinistic bigot with a real problem where normative human beings are concerned. You're nice as pie to anyone who labels themselves queer, but a complete cunt to anyone else - and frankly, I'm sick to death of your self-righteous bullshit.

Lockit -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:23:26 AM)
I agree with Fornica on her last post. There may be alternates... but there was organization that took deliberate planning from what was seen elsewhere.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:24:48 AM)
I agree with Fornica. To me, stealing photos is not a DID/MPD thinng. People with that condition do believe they are who they are and they donn't steal photos of others who AREN'T them, at least nnot to them, if that makes sense. They know who they are and what they look like, and using a picture of some poor girl from a "post your gf" porn site wouldn't be the same as posting their own face. To me, that is manipulation, planning, and craft. ANNND using the TOR software, and other things - there was a marked attempt to confuse people, hide, play on sympathies, and hide behind these personas to attack others. The disorder is serious, but I don't believe that's all that was going on here. Annnyway, I do agree with kali, that it would be good to unmoderate people who were moderated because of dealinngs with this person. It's annn odd situationn and clearly thinngs need to be balannced out.

gungadin09 -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:24:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama Alpha, Due to the extremely unique and bizarre circumstances here, I think you should consider a pardon of all those who were moderated due to their interactions with the alters, especially if they were modded for attempting to out the alters. The pardon would not say their behavior was or is acceptable, just an acknowledgment of the truly strange situation. Best, KK Seconded. pam

LillyBoPeep -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:27:01 AM)
P.s. also +1 to Awareness.

Awareness -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:33:08 AM)
VAA unbanned me after today's events and I suspect she unbanned DomiGuy too. Her original reasons were valid in that she asked me to stop and I refused. Had I more context, I probably would have, but at the time, it appeared the problem was being ignored and I was rather incensed by the divisive nature of what the alters were posting. Basically, it was my own fault.

TheFireWithinMe -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:36:56 AM)
FR I have a question. Do any of you who cry sock puppets have enough knowledge about DID/MPD to state definitively that they are socks? Personally I don't and I'm going to educate myself before making a decision either way. As things stand I simply don't know enough to decide that what is/isn't a feature of DID. On the issue of the stolen pics (for example), if lying is a part of the personality then stealing the pics would fit with that personality. I'm just speculating, as I said I don't know enough about DID and how it manifests to state that this is a part of it. I do believe that Bob is seriously mentally ill and I'm not going to condemn him. Nor am I going to condemn those he hurt, I understand that you are very angry and have a right to be. I'm simply not going to take a side until I know more. I do however feel compassion both for Bob and those he hurt, I do feel for all of you and I hope that those who were hurt are getting the closure they need. Fire

CeriseNin -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:37:07 AM)
Now that was interesting.

LizDeluxe -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:37:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha I will be locking this thread in the morning. I am doing this for the site members, not the "alteregos", but I will be locking it in the am. Well, then before it gets locked I'll add my two cents. Someone was bored, started fucking around with people on an internet forum and got busted. Prove me wrong and I will recant the above.

TheFireWithinMe -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:39:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha I will be locking this thread in the morning. I am doing this for the site members, not the "alteregos", but I will be locking it in the am. Well, then before it gets locked I'll add my two cents. Someone was bored, started fucking around with people on an internet forum and got busted. Prove me wrong and I will recant the above. That would mean extensive offline contact with Bob and videotaping him as his various alters which I can't see happening so I doubt that any proof will be given.

VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 7:43:56 AM)
I have stopped on page 13 because I am locking this thread before reading the rest of the replies. The purpose was to lay to rest all this "mess". To domiguy: you have been unbanned also, and if you choose to be sanctimonious towards me, so be it. Believe it or not, as I said in my email to you, I am not "a stupid fucking moron" and unlike some, I had real life issues of unbelievable magnitude that are above and beyond what the site was even aware of, and also THE REST OF THE SITE to run.I clicked every link you sent me. My apologies if I did not act fast enough to suit you. There are other nicks involved that 'you" did not catch so there was much more investigating to be done. To all the rest: I did not place Arpig's importance above any other site members.I have tried to do what was best for the site as a whole, while, if Arpig is telling the truth, not facilitating more possible harm to him, AS I WOULD FOR ANY ONE OF YOU. That's it folks. Have a wondrous rest of the weekend.

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