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Icarys -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:50:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Clickofheels Not at all, Icarys. I started my popcorn an hour ago when this subject came up on another thread. Sounds like a clear case of well... you know. (winks) I'm late to the party thread but man am I glad I tuned in lol.

Arturas -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:53:09 PM)
Fast Reply Well. This is interesting. It's an eye opener to me. But not along the lines I've read so far, instead, an eye opener that anyone could be affected so deeply as some of you have apparently been by false postings and fake egos. It occurs to me that one can only be deeply affected if you, as one affected by imaginary people and their postings, only if you consider the imaginary world of CM real when in fact you have been drilled from moment one to trust nothing on the internet that you do not know yourself as fact and sinced most of CM comes under that heading then most of this CM world is not rightfully real to any of you and if it is, if it is a significant part of your world, and it takes much of your time and you take it seriously enought to be hurt by "people" posting things here, then the issue is with you and not ArPig. The issue is with you because the real world is out there and even if you have close physical contacts with others you write to and post with here then your relationship with those real and known physical contacts you post to here would be unaffected by anything posted by any false accounts done by individuals or by one person under multiple egos, even if that person in this imaginary world posts nine thousand posts before you realize they are fake. So, if you were hurt by ArPig or an alter ego of ArPig then you carry much of the responsibility for placing yourself in that position by taking something that does not exist for real so seriously and I am talking about the CM forums. Only if this imaginary CM world exists as a real world to you does this type of activity affect you so and that is not such a good thing and it might be time to consider using the CM forums the way they should be used as any other part of the internet, believe only what you know to be true yourself and if the CM forums is a big part of your world then a big part of your world is imaginary and you set yourself up to be a victim.

Kana -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:53:53 PM)
As a society we hold people responsible for their actions. If a drunk driver kills someone, we hold them accountable even if they are blind, out of their mind drunk to the point they are no longer capable of making rational decisions. The insanity defense doesn't work because judges have consistently ruled that in taking that first drink willingly, while sober and in sound mind, the drinker is intentionally taking a risk that their future behavior would be effected. Here, we have a situation where a mentally ill person, who was well aware that they were mentally ill, had been diagnosed, been given medicine to stabilize the issue, got stabilized, and then willingly and voluntarily, while in a sound state of mind, stopped taking their meds, thus risking backsliding. Now I know that this is a pretty common syndrome among mentally ill folks, but still... My thoughts 1-Bob, or Arpig, or whoever the funk you are-I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for your illness, I feel sorry for your suffering, I feel sorry that you chose to stop taking meds and hurt lots of folks. 2-That said, fuck you. You chose to not take your meds, you rolled the dice and damaged lots of people who didn't deserve being hurt in the process. This might sound tough, but hey, someone has to be accountable and when you stopped doing what you needed to do to take care of you, you chose this course...just like a junkie who went back out chose their pain. Does this sound tough-sure. Hell, it may even come off as uncaring,. I don't give a fuck. No one is responsible for you but you. You have an answer to your problem-that you didn't take it is on you, as is the harm that you caused. 3-VAA-Kudos to you. You got nailed in public, called out, challenged, all the while dealing with a real personal crisis, yet you remained calm and kept to the high ground and did lots of background work that yielded fruit. Thank you for your efforts, they went above and beyond the call and we are the better for it. I have lots of other thoughts, but can't really actualize them yet, cuz I'm still processing them. Suffice to say that I'm pissed, I feel like lots of time has been wasted, way, way to fucking much drama was involved here, good folks have been mangled and I'm really kinda questioning whether it's worth it to continue here on the forums-I mean why bother spending time and effort to articulate thoughts and share experiences with accounts and posts that are just being made to satisfy the mental masturbation of a few deranged folks... Life is short. Time is precious. I ain't got time to fool around with BS like this.

Awareness -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:54:45 PM)
Arturas, I had a private bet with myself that you'd post something stupidly sanctimonious and holier-than-thou. I was right. Shut the fuck up.

angelikaJ -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:55:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig No LP, but there is nothing I can do to undo what has been done. I have worked with VAA to get to the bottom of this, and have taken what steps I can to put an end to the situation. You are mad as Hell at me, and you, and everybody else has every right to be. As I said, I am not making any excuses nor asking for forgiveness. It is what it is, believe me, the problems here on this board are the smallest part of my problems right now. While you all may question the reality of people on forums, I now question the reality of people I meet. But now that you have an awareness, that is something you are choosing by deciding not to take medication. You are making a decision to not take medication, continue to go off in fugue states, and do things you have no knowledge of doing. That is a very big gamble. I am not a parent. But if I were, I don't think it would be an acceptable risk. edit: clarity

seababy -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:57:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Clickofheels Not at all, Icarys. I started my popcorn an hour ago when this subject came up on another thread. Sounds like a clear case of well... you know. (winks) Click, It would be creepy if you were being entertained by someones reputation being destroyed offline by slander. The only thing that would be creepier is if you added a "(smiles)" instead of a " (wink)." This all goes a bit deeper then some one having a few socks. (Which alot of people suspected anyway but couldn't prove.) I'm going to assume you just haven't caught up with whats going on, it puts you in a better light.

myotherself -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:58:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead I have never been a fan of any of the "girl-group" that posted. I never got involved in the threads where those screen names were posting all over the place because I did not like them. I thought they were mostly mean and attention-seeking, and I was kind of surprised that many people seemed to like them so much... but to each their own. It's sad that a lot of people got hurt by them/him. Now more than ever, I'm grateful that I steered clear of that mess. I couldn't have put it better Red! I posted a hell of a lot less during the time 'they' were around, mostly because I didn't want to be attacked for my opinion and I didn't want to watch people I like and respect having to take sides and argue. I'm glad it's all over. I hope we can get back on track and leave this as a bad memory. And LadyP - you will always have my undying respect for all the behind-the-scenes help you have given me in recent times. I hope one day to meet you and thank you face to face. You rock!

Awareness -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/13/2012 11:59:46 PM)
That's a fair comment and reading ArPig's earlier thread, he did say that an alter took him over at one point and he assaulted a friend. It strikes me as an unacceptable risk for him to be in charge of a child. However, I'm afraid at this point, anything he tells you which is uncorroborated by another witness has to be regarded as suspect. My suggestion for all of you is this. Say what you need to, but do NOT engage in any further narratives from this man. No matter what you think you're doing, you're being sucked back into the drama - which could be entirely fictitious.

DarqueMirror -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:00:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Knew what? Were you replying to something I said or the general thread? General thread. The "FR-" means fast reply. I replied from...page 2 I think. I may not have known the particulars per se, but I knew "they" were all full of shit. They all seemed to surface around the same time, with miraculously similar mannerisms and behavior. And with "Arpig's" post long ago about "voices in his head," it makes perfect sense. However... There's one thing I have to throw down the bullshit card on. This "excuse" and offering up of a diagnosis is bullshit. Yes, those mental disorders exist. However, a person with the real disorder would be posting pics of themselves dressed up as the personality in question. To post pics and vids that were obviously stolen from elsewhere shows that this alleged personality looked down at "herself" and realized she had not the body of some teeny lil brunette (or blonde) and sought to fabricate them. A person with real DID is more likely to "see" what they want when they look in the mirror and thus, the pics would have been "Arpig" in panties or a bikini or whatever (pausing to shudder at that mental image). No, these "personalities" are much more "lie" than they are "disorder."

Arturas -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:00:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness Arturas, I had a private bet with myself that you'd post something stupidly sanctimonious and holier-than-thou. I was right. Shut the fuck up. Exactly my point. This does not hurt in the least bit. I simply say what is published guidelines for using the internet in my own words and if someone like this "Awarness" account says something meant to hurt then who cares because my ego, my happiness or view of myself does not depend on making him happy or on his approval, onlyh those here who I personally know affect me as he attempted to affect me. I actually feel bad for some of you so affected even though I don't even know you are real and so this has actually affected me in a whay it should not because I am human as you were when so affected by ArPig and must take my own lesson and forget it and go to bed and have sweet dreams of a new tomorrow.

Arpig -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:01:36 AM)
No, you misunderstood. I am continuing my present medication, and rather than attempting to drug the new hallucinations/personas/whatevers out of existence I want to try a different route and go with therapy, in an attempt to both figure out exactly what is going on, and if possible to reintegrate the personas. To just drug them away, if it is even possible, will not ever resolve the underlying problem, and that will only result in some future reoccurence of this sort of thing. Is it a risk? yes, but under the circumstances I think it is a reasonable one, in order for the therapist to interact with the personas, they must be present..

littlewonder -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:02:34 AM)
and this people is why I have never taken online interactions seriously and for me this is just a place of entertainment. For all I know you're all sockpuppets of the creator of this website lol.

tazzygirl -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:03:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness Arturas, I had a private bet with myself that you'd post something stupidly sanctimonious and holier-than-thou. I was right. Shut the fuck up. He is the last fucking one that needs to chime up in here. You beat me to the punch. I do thank you.

Hillwilliam -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:03:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Knew what? Were you replying to something I said or the general thread? General thread. The "FR-" means fast reply. I replied from...page 2 I think. I may not have known the particulars per se, but I knew "they" were all full of shit. They all seemed to surface around the same time, with miraculously similar mannerisms and behavior. And with "Arpig's" post long ago about "voices in his head," it makes perfect sense. However... There's one thing I have to throw down the bullshit card on. This "excuse" and offering up of a diagnosis is bullshit. Yes, those mental disorders exist. However, a person with the real disorder would be posting pics of themselves dressed up as the personality in question. To post pics and vids that were obviously stolen from elsewhere shows that this alleged personality looked down at "herself" and realized she had not the body of some teeny lil brunette (or blonde) and sought to fabricate them. A person with real DID is more likely to "see" what they want when they look in the mirror and thus, the pics would have been "Arpig" in panties or a bikini or whatever (pausing to shudder at that mental image). No, these "personalities" are much more "lie" than they are "disorder." Gotcha. no worries. I just saw "in reply to hillwilliam" and wondered which post you might be replying to. ETA fer fucksakes, get me some eyebleach willya.

tazzygirl -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:04:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder and this people is why I have never taken online interactions seriously and for me this is just a place of entertainment. For all I know you're all sockpuppets of the creator of this website lol. SOME of us do know OTHERS here off line.

LadyPact -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:04:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig No LP, but there is nothing I can do to undo what has been done. I have worked with VAA to get to the bottom of this, and have taken what steps I can to put an end to the situation. You are mad as Hell at me, and you, and everybody else has every right to be. As I said, I am not making any excuses nor asking for forgiveness. It is what it is, believe me, the problems here on this board are the smallest part of my problems right now. While you all may question the reality of people on forums, I now question the reality of people I meet. Is that so???? Yes, I am mad as hell. What gave you the right to call My character into question? Jesus Fucking Christ, Bob!!! Tell Me what in the hell I ever did to deserve being a pawn in your fucking game? Tell Me what I ever did to deserve this? Have I not been on this site for five fucking years, and attempted to do My best? Make it public or private, but you do owe Me (yes. Me as a fucking human being) an apology. Be a fucking man and get your ass into making things (that you FUCKED up) right. If you can't, you are not on the path to wellness.

Awareness -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:06:53 AM)
Anyone who managed to create a sock-puppet like me should get an award - for it would be an act of unmitigated genius.

Clickofheels -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:06:58 AM)
How many times have I heard you people say in your posts: "You just can't take what happens or what is said on here seriously," or "what people say is no big deal," or "anything goes online," or "if you take this stuff seriously, you realllly need to get a life?" So yes, I am enjoying seeing the shoe on the other foot for a change. Many of you could use a nice big piece of humble pie...!

tazzygirl -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:08:17 AM)
Show me where I ever said that. You want to climb on your high horse and enjoy the show? Please, do so.

Arpig -> RE: thanks for the dance. (1/14/2012 12:11:07 AM)
I have said I am sorry. If I could undo what was done then I would. I cannot. I don't believe I have ever attacked you or called anything about you into question as myself. That I have under one of my alternates I do not dispute, but as I have said, and as many have decided to not believe, I was not conscious of doing so. Awareness is correct, there is no particular reason to believe anything I say, but those who have been on here as long as you can attest to a gradual and steady decline in my mental state and changes in my demeanour. I believe LL commented on it a few months back. I am truly sorry for any insult or harm I have done. That is why I am replying to you. That is why I am not disputing anything anybody is saying, only clarifying things now and then.

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