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lemmony2 -> To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 9:42:50 AM)
I am a dominant male by nature with a curiosity into mind manipulation and control. This most likely stems from to much time spent Walmart people watching. Human nature and what makes people do what they do and follow the directions they follow is a forever continuing mystery. One that I love to study in the scope of individual persana. It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). Rather it is meant as a form of liberty to both party's and the ultimate form of understanding a leadership potential on one end and a pure form of release on the other. I am just curious if anyone else agrees with this and if maybe I could drum up a conversation from all ends on this hypothesis? I am interested in any tests or trials done by others and opinions? I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well ..

fucktoyprincess -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 10:08:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). Rather it is meant as a form of liberty to both party's and the ultimate form of understanding a leadership potential on one end and a pure form of release on the other. I would say that your opinion applies equally to submissives also. In other words, neither Dominance nor submission should be the result of trying to overcome instability or to overcompensate for some other personality or other deficiency. In an ideal world, power exchange should liberate both people by releasing them both from common conventions in order to mutually discover more about themselves and each other.

Azonier -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 10:21:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. As a (lessor) god, I must say that domination and mastery of others are often compensation for lack of stability in oneself. What else are minions good for, hmmmm? I am also currently taking applications for test subjects. Applicants must be healthy and have an interest in probes.

lemmony2 -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 10:23:23 AM)
Great response and I tend to fully agree with you. Excellent profile you have as well fucktoyprincess. Feel free to add me as a friend any time :) I would like to carry our debate further. You seem to have a deep grasp on concepts that elude most.

lemmony2 -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 10:28:21 AM)
Interesting view. I prefer dominion and control for the sake of dominion and control and mostly for the sake of itself. I am dominant by nature and feel I am competent and secure in myself but I do enjoy the submissiveness of a well heeled lady with an educated background as well. I do enjoy differing perspectives as they add understanding and flavor. Please Azonier you claim lesser God status would you mind elaborating on your credentials and methods? I am always up for new understanding.

Azonier -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 10:39:52 AM)
Well, it's a bit difficult (and tedious honestly) to explain. I was thought into existence by a (now non-contributing) member of collarchat. If you do a search on Azonier or SpanishMattMaster, you should find enough to satisfy your curiousity (If you don't die of boredom first. I must warn you it is a distinct possibility.) I bid you well.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 11:20:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 Great response and I tend to fully agree with you. Excellent profile you have as well fucktoyprincess. Feel free to add me as a friend any time :) I would like to carry our debate further. You seem to have a deep grasp on concepts that elude most. Thanks. I think one aspect of BDSM that I find very interesting is that it really frees people (regardless of gender, role, or sexual orientation) to be "bad" or "naughty" - i.e., behave in ways that would otherwise simply not be tolerated or socially acceptable (and for good reason). And of course, ideally, we behave badly in pre-defined, controlled ways - in other words I don't feel BDSM gives license to submissives to check their self-worth at the door, or alternatively give Dominants license to abuse someone. But within a controlled situation (negotiated limits, consent, safe words, etc.) it frees people to tap into a different side of themselves.

GreedyTop -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 12:17:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. As a (lessor) god, I must say that domination and mastery of others are often compensation for lack of stability in oneself. What else are minions good for, hmmmm? I am also currently taking applications for test subjects. Applicants must be healthy and have an interest in probes. oh sure. don't mention the noses.

Focus50 -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 1:02:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 I am a dominant male by nature with a curiosity into mind manipulation and control. This most likely stems from to much time spent Walmart people watching. Human nature and what makes people do what they do and follow the directions they follow is a forever continuing mystery. One that I love to study in the scope of individual persana. It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). Rather it is meant as a form of liberty to both party's and the ultimate form of understanding a leadership potential on one end and a pure form of release on the other. I am just curious if anyone else agrees with this and if maybe I could drum up a conversation from all ends on this hypothesis? I am interested in any tests or trials done by others and opinions? I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. It's Summer here, which means those sweet, white seedless grapes are in season and yeah, I like to loiter in the "fruit & vegie" section and watch the women and oldies in particular help themselves to "free" samples.... Some will whine about the price and I'll helpfully inform them that it's because a third of the grapes never make it to the checkout. Hell, I'll even offer the occasional nectarine or apple so they can 'try before they buy' them, too. True, some will actually buy a bunch or two after they've taken their fill.... Of course, the sad part is many a mum will pass grape freebies to their tots like it's ok, ensuring learned behaviour continues the cycle.... Which is what a lot of human behaviour is - learned behaviour ingrained when you're at your youngest and most impressionable. Control, however, esp in a complementing D & s sense, isn't so much learned as the particular nature we came with. And despite society's (and esp hollywood's) best attempts to emasculate the male gender so we're all "equal", it's not gonna change. And why should it - really? Who's getting hurt in individual D/s relationships where one leads; one follows, yet both are fulfilled for it? Still, I see from some of the new season's tv being advertised, America and the Brits just keep on giving the world more tight-skirted, hundred pound babes kicking the absolute crap out of we 200 pound knuckle dragging males. Gotta lurv the "reality" of it all.... Focus.

Duskypearls -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 1:14:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. As a (lessor) god, I must say that domination and mastery of others are often compensation for lack of stability in oneself. What else are minions good for, hmmmm? I am also currently taking applications for test subjects. Applicants must be healthy and have an interest in probes. Ooooh, me, me...pick me!

DesFIP -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 1:43:46 PM)
quote: well heeled So you want a wealthy sub to pay for you? quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 Of course, the sad part is many a mum will pass grape freebies to their tots like it's ok, ensuring learned behaviour continues the cycle.... Which is what a lot of human behaviour is - learned behaviour ingrained when you're at your youngest and most impressionable. As a mother, I would like to say that not having the computer scanner already set the price, so you can give a kid grapes while shopping is something I have always objected to. If they did it that way, shopping would be a lot easier. And yes, I've complained to produce managers about it. Hell, if the kid drinks a bottle of juice while in the store, you just swipe the empty bottle. Strawberry baskets are pre-weighed and scanned, so there's no reason not to do so for grapes.

xxblushesxx -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 2:03:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: well heeled So you want a wealthy sub to pay for you? quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 Of course, the sad part is many a mum will pass grape freebies to their tots like it's ok, ensuring learned behaviour continues the cycle.... Which is what a lot of human behaviour is - learned behaviour ingrained when you're at your youngest and most impressionable. As a mother, I would like to say that not having the computer scanner already set the price, so you can give a kid grapes while shopping is something I have always objected to. If they did it that way, shopping would be a lot easier. And yes, I've complained to produce managers about it. Hell, if the kid drinks a bottle of juice while in the store, you just swipe the empty bottle. Strawberry baskets are pre-weighed and scanned, so there's no reason not to do so for grapes. That's easy enough to remedy; just weigh the kid on the way in, and weigh 'em on the way out. Pay $2.99 per pound for the difference. If he's lost weight, charge whatever celery costs per pound. Easy peasy. [:D]

Azonier -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 2:34:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. As a (lessor) god, I must say that domination and mastery of others are often compensation for lack of stability in oneself. What else are minions good for, hmmmm? I am also currently taking applications for test subjects. Applicants must be healthy and have an interest in probes. oh sure. don't mention the noses. Not everyone needs to know every sordid detail of my life. As one of my minions likes to say, "mmmpphhh, mmmrroowwommm" That's when I have duct tape on it's mouth. hahahaha! That is some (lessor) god humour. But seriously, as one of my minions likes to say, "You don't have to tell everything you know".

Azonier -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 2:35:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Duskypearls quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. As a (lessor) god, I must say that domination and mastery of others are often compensation for lack of stability in oneself. What else are minions good for, hmmmm? I am also currently taking applications for test subjects. Applicants must be healthy and have an interest in probes. Ooooh, me, me...pick me! You are the chosen one! (for tonight) I'll be by in my spaceship around sevenish. Wear high highs and a short skirt.

lemmony2 -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/14/2012 10:41:58 PM)
Blushes hahahahh you deserve a medal for that one..that is absolutly the most creative funny idea I have heard yet!! hahahhahaah quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. As a (lessor) god, I must say that domination and mastery of others are often compensation for lack of stability in oneself. What else are minions good for, hmmmm? I am also currently taking applications for test subjects. Applicants must be healthy and have an interest in probes. oh sure. don't mention the noses. Not everyone needs to know every sordid detail of my life. As one of my minions likes to say, "mmmpphhh, mmmrroowwommm" That's when I have duct tape on it's mouth. hahahaha! That is some (lessor) god humour. But seriously, as one of my minions likes to say, "You don't have to tell everything you know".

xxblushesxx -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/15/2012 3:30:12 AM)
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chamberqueen -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/15/2012 7:26:22 AM)
lemmony, I think that the most important part is to remember the difference between domination and mastery. I was in a marriage where I was dominated by fear - vanilla relationship. I would do everything he wanted, keep quiet as a mouse unless I was saying something to make him feel good, but out of fear for the consequences if I did not. After leaving the relationship a found someone who could truly Master me. I did the same basic things for him as I did for my husband but the Master brought out the best in me, gave me a sense of fulfillment, and while I feared to displease him it was a healthy fear - not a fear of being beaten (either verbally or physically) but a deep souled aversion to doing anything that would displease him because it would hurt my heart too much. If you can inspire devotion and service, whether you call yourself Dom or Master, you have truly mastered another. Leading someone else to find fulfillment while getting what you need from the relationship is a beautiful balance, but one that can easily wobble so as the top it is your job to make sure that both of you get what you need. It is a lot of hard work but more than worth it.

Kana -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/15/2012 7:51:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). Rather it is meant as a form of liberty to both party's and the ultimate form of understanding a leadership potential on one end and a pure form of release on the other. I am just curious if anyone else agrees with this and if maybe I could drum up a conversation from all ends on this hypothesis? I am interested in any tests or trials done by others and opinions? I got into BDSM/Domination?Mastery because I liked the idea of making hot naked sluts crawl and beg-the thought made my cock harder than a diamond. In the years since, I've performed a couple (ten thousand or so) tests and trials and ya know what? I was right. It caused mad wood.

Duskypearls -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/15/2012 8:33:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: Duskypearls quote: ORIGINAL: Azonier quote: ORIGINAL: lemmony2 It is my opinion that domination and mastery of another soul is not meant to be a compensation for a (cough) (cough) lack of or way to over come an instability in oneself (even thou most often that is found to be the case). I currently am in search of a potential test subject as well .. As a (lessor) god, I must say that domination and mastery of others are often compensation for lack of stability in oneself. What else are minions good for, hmmmm? I am also currently taking applications for test subjects. Applicants must be healthy and have an interest in probes. Ooooh, me, me...pick me! You are the chosen one! (for tonight) I'll be by in my spaceship around sevenish. Wear high highs and a short skirt. You're on!

lemmony2 -> RE: To Be or not to Be? (1/15/2012 12:48:44 PM)
All hats off to those honestly twisted and full cheers to those twistedly honest.... :0 .. I do agree that the placement of control over another human life gives me a mad case of wood.. I would be denying life to lie about that. I think control or the lack their of is an innate development. What do you all think? Most in America I would hazard to say really are in stages of subservient slave mentality and are furious against the life style because they do not like what they see in the mirror. I say this because while everyone pounds the home of the free and the brave they scream for more laws,more prisons, more government snooping, and are all eager to live vicariously by snooping in the lives of others. According to the governments justice bureau statistics America leads the world in laws and regulations controlling the privacy and sex lives of consenting humans,has more people (1/4th population as of 2009)in prisons or jails,over 195,000 on sex offender registry's, and still is passing roughly 350,000 new laws every year while not removing any. I wonder if given true freedom and control over their lives how many Americans really could live and thrive for even a full week? These are not my statistics folks!! This is the American Justice Bureau government website statistics!! The government even gives people the information yet no one wishes to see it... So with out rambling to much since people accept and cry for more of this control it is my belief most people then also must be of slave mentality.. Any takers on side opinions? As some are happy and function best when they are under complete control and domination others function best when they know they control the lives of others. I am a good example of this. When I am alone and only responsible for myself I get lethargic and really could care less, If I am ordered to do anything (even if it is in my best interest) I will fight every step of the way. If on the other hand i have the life or lives of others in my care and control I am fully dedicated and wound like an 8 day clock. Out of those who claim to be dom's/domms it appears to me 98% really are nothing more then glorified subservient's with a sadistic bent to compensate for low self esteem. Those that claim to be subs and slaves often times are more a scattering of I'll do any thing just someone please have me's, scam artists, and I am into this only as long as it is convenient to me's.... I would like to start a post and may do it soon or could use some help posting a poll with question and answer to determine how many on this site find themselves as what and why?

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