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Notsweet -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:05:02 PM)

In a way, yes. That's the initial reason I found it disturbing--it's bsically the equivalent of calling someone "fag" because you don't agree with them.




Politesub53 -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:05:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

I'm confused about how we've come to the "All (name the party) lie" technique of claiming to support the truth.



I`m confused why you wish to lie by claiming I ever said there was. Did you fail to read the post I replied to ?




Notsweet -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:10:33 PM)

I didn't say you did, Sir. I specifically said "how we have come to," meaning "how did society come to this." It's a pretty standard figure of speech where I come from, but again, perhaps that's cultural. Had I meant to say that YOU had lied, I would have said you, but I don't know you well enough to determine your honesty.




Sanity -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:13:56 PM)


Thats exactly what it is, and the kicker is how they think theyre being clever

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

In a way, yes. That's the initial reason I found it disturbing--it's bsically the equivalent of calling someone "fag" because you don't agree with them.




mnottertail -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:15:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

In a way, yes. That's the initial reason I found it disturbing--it's bsically the equivalent of calling someone "fag" because you don't agree with them.


how so?  are you proffering proofs  that only men suck other mens nuts? that it is solely some homosexual activity? (cuz maybe you need to meet some girls I know)  Are you further telling us that the tea party (which is not a party in our US terms) did not at their inception and as a pr bite and iconology liken themselves to those who in Boston had a tea party?   Are you further telling me that those who have drunk tea for these many many centuries, Lipton, Tetley, and the like, do not use bags or balls to strain their tea?

I don't believe that balderdash for a second, it is insincere and an affront to facts and reason. 




Politesub53 -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:16:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

I didn't say you did, Sir. I specifically said "how we have come to," meaning "how did society come to this." It's a pretty standard figure of speech where I come from, but again, perhaps that's cultural. Had I meant to say that YOU had lied, I would have said you, but I don't know you well enough to determine your honesty.



I apologise.

Your post showed you as replying to me ( Bottom right hand corner )




Owner59 -> RE: Canada Proudly Bans Free Speech (1/14/2012 1:18:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Always one step ahead, those Canadians [:D]

http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2011/03/02/fox-shut-out-of-canada-because-of-a-law-against-lying-during-newscasts/



Cartman says it best.....




Notsweet -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:18:40 PM)

No problem :) I hate that trick of the reply. How does one reply without making it look as though one is directing a comment?




kalikshama -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:19:02 PM)

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Who determines what is true, and what is lying?


For our discussion on Fox Fraud vs NY Times mistakes, see Fox News fakes Russian election coverage with riot footage from Greece




Lucylastic -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:19:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

In a way, yes. That's the initial reason I found it disturbing--it's bsically the equivalent of calling someone "fag" because you don't agree with them.


how so?  are you proffering proofs  that only men suck other mens nuts? that it is solely some homosexual activity? (cuz maybe you need to meet some girls I know)  Are you further telling us that the tea party (which is not a party in our US terms) did not at their inception and as a pr bite and iconology liken themselves to those who in Boston had a tea party?   Are you further telling me that those who have drunk tea for these many many centuries, Lipton, Tetley, and the like, do not use bags or balls to strain their tea?

I don't believe that balderdash for a second, it is insincere and an affront to facts and reason. 

we already proved that sucking balls is NOT a homosexual only practise
but STILL they insist its the only explantion




mnottertail -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:19:58 PM)

you could do a

FR:

(meaning fast reply) at the top of your post.  thats common out here.




kalikshama -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:21:40 PM)

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No problem :) I hate that trick of the reply. How does one reply without making it look as though one is directing a comment?


If you highlight the sentence to which you are replying and click on Reply in that post, it will be crystal clear.

You can also just click on Reply in the post to which you are replying, or reply to the OP, or reply to your own post, or add FR to the top of your post to denote Fast Reply.




Lucylastic -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:22:55 PM)

[image]http://www.bobcesca.com/images/tea_baggin.jpg[/image]




truckinslave -> RE: Canada Proudly Bans Free Speech (1/14/2012 1:23:18 PM)

Sanity, most people here are all for censorship unless it affects porno.




Notsweet -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:23:25 PM)

Again, this may be a cultural thing, but "teabagger" is a derogatory term used in "jock" circles and is the equivalent of calling "fag."

And I'm not suggesting that the TEA Party didn't use the Boston tea party as a basis and model. I don't recall saying that. But I do know that tea bags are an invention much more recent than the Stamp Act <smile>. And as a member of the TEA Party, I tend to go with what we choose to call ourselves, and not what others may label us--so indeed, we consider ourselves to be a political movement, and the name of that movement is TEA Party.

Again, I'm not at all sure where the hostility comes from, mnottertail.




kalikshama -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:26:47 PM)

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I seem to remember the teaparty declaring themselves teabaggers before anyone else did. to get upset about it now is disingenuous. and a joke.


Correct as usual:

The evolution of the word 'tea bagger'

...The grassroots movement didn't always consider "tea bagger" a slur: Early Tea Partiers innocently embraced the term...

Feb. 27, 2009
At the first anti-stimulus "New American Tea Party" rally in Washington D.C., a protestor carries a sign reading "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems before they Tea Bag You!!" The Washington Independent's David Weigel calls it "the best sign I saw."

March 2
Americans for Prosperity, an anti-tax group, is one of the first Tea Party organizations to advocate sending tea bags to elected officials to protest the stimulus package. Several other lobby groups follow suit.

April 1
Several Tea Party protest sites encourage readers to "Tea bag the fools in DC." Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online later admits: "Conservatives started [using the term]... but others ran and ran with it."

April 9
Rachel Maddow is the first to mock the Tea Party's use of the phrase on her left-leaning MSNBC show. "Even Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina is getting in on the hot tea-bagging action," she says, stifling laughter. (Watch Rachel Maddow joke about the "tea baggers")

April 13
David Shuster, filling in for liberal commentator Keith Olbermann on MSNBC, also makes fun of the phrase. "While the parties are officially toothless, the tea-baggers are full-throated about their goals," he says. Jeff Poor at the Business and Media Insitute says that the MSNBC comments are "lost in juvenile criticism and ignoring the reason there is discontent from the conservative base"

April 14
Anderson Cooper, on his avowedly non-partisan CNN show, makes a similar crack, but later back-pedals, calling his remark a "stupid, silly, one-line aside" that was not meant to "disparage legitimate protests."

September 10
Badges with the message "Proud to be a Tea Bagger" are still on sale at Tea Party events, according to an article written later in the year.





Notsweet -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:26:59 PM)

LOL--please don't use a particular attendee of a TEA Party to generalize that we all feel the same. It's not as though anyone here has suggested that all Occupy memers are rapists.




Lucylastic -> RE: Canada Proudly Bans Free Speech (1/14/2012 1:28:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Sanity, most people here are all for censorship unless it affects porno.

please quote "most" people here saying that?
theres that confirmation bias again, LMAO




Lucylastic -> RE: Fox Shut Out of Canada Because of a Law Against Lying During Newscasts (1/14/2012 1:30:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

LOL--please don't use a particular attendee of a TEA Party to generalize that we all feel the same. It's not as though anyone here has suggested that all Occupy memers are rapists.

actually quite a few have
I get offended that people liken teabaggers to "fags" Especially on a kink site.
But that doesnt seem to bother anyone except me




truckinslave -> RE: Canada Proudly Bans Free Speech (1/14/2012 1:32:57 PM)

Read the thread, LL
People lined up supporting the Canadian decision to abolish free speech in favor of letting the government decide what is true.




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