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tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 10:18:09 PM)

Um.. actually no. You accused liberals of not being able to tell the difference between one conservative or another. Thats sort of like not being able to tell one native american from another. Especially in this political climate.

But, to spell it out clearly to you... We CAN tell that not all conservatives think alike. Fancy that!



Notsweet -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 10:23:56 PM)

I guess I still can't see where I did that. There ARE, in fact, many people who think that Santorum is representative of what all conservatives think. And don't you think that's stretching it a bit? I wonder how much good it does to search for things to be offended over.

But let's put our cards on the table. Some people here are simply gunning to bully and be nasty and mean. They came in with the attitude of "beat up the conservative." I can tell because the arguments aren't about the issue, they're about making sure that conservatives know that they're hated.

Ah well. There's always that kind of...discourse, I guess.



tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 10:26:41 PM)

Do yourself a favor. Go through some threads. You believe only conservatives get beat up?

Popeye is Independent... and gets it alot.

I am Dem.. get more than my share.

Sanity... is.. .ok... Im not sure.

Firm is conservative.

Heretic is Conservative and he just called all liberals a name I wouldnt call you.

Now, you want to play the poor pity my party game?

Go right ahead, you wont gain any sympathy that way.



erieangel -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 10:41:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Notsweet

I guess I still can't see where I did that. There ARE, in fact, many people who think that Santorum is representative of what all conservatives think. And don't you think that's stretching it a bit? I wonder how much good it does to search for things to be offended over.

But let's put our cards on the table. Some people here are simply gunning to bully and be nasty and mean. They came in with the attitude of "beat up the conservative." I can tell because the arguments aren't about the issue, they're about making sure that conservatives know that they're hated.

Ah well. There's always that kind of...discourse, I guess.




The biggest religious rights groups met today and decided to endorse none other than Santorum.  So my guess is most of the religious right will be thinking the same way and stumbling over themselves to find excuses for Santorum.

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2012/01/14/religious-right-leaders-endorse-rick-santorum/

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/762781/breaking%3A_religious_right_endorses_santorum%3B_aims_to_stop_romney_in_south_carolina/#paragraph2




Lucylastic -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 10:48:44 PM)

After Bachmann they pretty much had to go with Santorum didnt they? No one else fit the bill
well no body liable to get close, I dont think it will do him much good tho..hes done



tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 10:50:11 PM)

Lucy, mail call!



MrRodgers -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:12:39 PM)

I am thinking maybe we should devolve back into state's control. With the exception of a few current established amendments restricting that freedom of control...let's take a look shall we ?

Banking, why not back to the states and eliminate the fed. Treasury determines currency needs. Eliminate all federal banking laws and the FDIC. The fact is of course that the fed. has not...repeat NOT been printing up new currency and...states could not either. What would be the real practical difference ?

FCC, communications back to the states and who then could break up the little cable fiefdoms. Different statutes on all communication media....including all things digital.

Agriculture, let the states subsidize their own farmers. Let the states decide if they want to drill oil...for examples.

DEA, let the states have their own drug laws. They are beginning to address that as we type.

I am thinking the right and the capitalist would be screaming to hell. You see, it's much more cost-effective to purchase one plutocracy then to buy 50 different plutocracies. Then it could get ugly...I mean states would be reduced to competing for lobbyist jobs, income and of course...influence...the green kind.

No, way too much of a shift in profit centers, or let's say, political investment portfolios. It would vacate K St....can't have that. Where would I go after I 'retire' from congress ?



Notsweet -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:16:01 PM)

On the contrary, Mr. Rodgers, many of the things you have there are things that are currently being discussed in Republican circles. Though we all recognize that the federal government has a role to play, I think we can agree as well that for many things, the citizens of the state know what is best for themselves.



Notsweet -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:18:20 PM)

I'm afraid I can only speak for the threads I'm on, and to my eye, it's very offensive. And there are people simply stretching to find something that they can use to feel injured--but it isn't m. Perhaps you should reread the thread as well?

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Do yourself a favor. Go through some threads. You believe only conservatives get beat up?

Popeye is Independent... and gets it alot.

I am Dem.. get more than my share.

Sanity... is.. .ok... Im not sure.

Firm is conservative.

Heretic is Conservative and he just called all liberals a name I wouldnt call you.

Now, you want to play the poor pity my party game?

Go right ahead, you wont gain any sympathy that way.



tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:22:09 PM)

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Banking, why not back to the states and eliminate the fed. Treasury determines currency needs. Eliminate all federal banking laws and the FDIC. The fact is of course that the fed. has not...repeat NOT been printing up new currency and...states could not either. What would be the real practical difference ?


Would the states guarantee the accounts?

And what happens to the monies paid in with taxes?



tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:23:41 PM)

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I'm afraid I can only speak for the threads I'm on, and to my eye, it's very offensive. And there are people simply stretching to find something that they can use to feel injured--but it isn't m. Perhaps you should reread the thread as well?


And yet you make the accusations you have made?



Notsweet -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:25:53 PM)

You're stretching again.

Goodnight.



tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:36:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Notsweet

You're stretching again.

Goodnight.


Your posts...

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His ideas regarding social conservativism make me scream. And people assume that what comes out of his crazy face is what all conservatives think.


quote:

Some people here are simply gunning to bully and be nasty and mean. They came in with the attitude of "beat up the conservative."


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I'm afraid I can only speak for the threads I'm on, and to my eye, it's very offensive.


So you admit you do not know people, yet within a few posts you condemn everyone who isnt conservative because you do not like what is being said.

I can only suggest that you and I interact as little as possible. Otherwise, your feelings will stay perpetually hurt.



erieangel -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:42:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Notsweet

I'm afraid I can only speak for the threads I'm on, and to my eye, it's very offensive. And there are people simply stretching to find something that they can use to feel injured--but it isn't m. Perhaps you should reread the thread as well?

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Do yourself a favor. Go through some threads. You believe only conservatives get beat up?

Popeye is Independent... and gets it alot.

I am Dem.. get more than my share.

Sanity... is.. .ok... Im not sure.

Firm is conservative.

Heretic is Conservative and he just called all liberals a name I wouldnt call you.

Now, you want to play the poor pity my party game?

Go right ahead, you wont gain any sympathy that way.




You're 51 and complain about having your feelings hurt?  On a message board??  Lady, you need some thicker skin.



tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/14/2012 11:52:18 PM)

Try the 6/6/11 entry on her profile. It explains a lot.



DomKen -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/15/2012 6:16:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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Griswold did not expand federal powers over the state, what it did was expand PERSONAL powers over the intrusion of the state.


Griswold first created the "right to privacy" and then used the power of the federal gummint to force the states to respect it.
Yeah, that's not an expansion of federal powers.
If they created the requirement to go about in public armed with a firearm, that would be an expansion of personal power.

So in your opinion requiring a state to respect the rights granted by the US Constitution is an expansion of federal power? So you'd be fine if your state made Shi'a Islam the official required religion and forced you to go to the mosque every Friday?



thishereboi -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/15/2012 7:50:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Try the 6/6/11 entry on her profile. It explains a lot.


Why? Is it relevant to the topic of the thread or is just another way for you to take a jab at someone who disagrees with you.



tazzygirl -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/15/2012 7:52:12 AM)

It goes directly to her whining.



Fightdirecto -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/15/2012 8:10:58 AM)

IMO, the disconnect or paradox highlights the difference between words of the social conservatives and the desires of the social conservatives. Social conservatives like Santorum talk "small government" and "limited government intrusion" but actually favor big government and government intrusion into people's private lives in order to enforce "morality".

But the libertarian conservatives and the fiscal conservatives are happy to ally themselves with the social conservatives if it wins them elections, deluding themselves into thinking that they can "handle" the social conservatives and prevent them from actually putting their "morality" laws into practice.

Not all conservatives hold all the same beliefs - but they all seem to believe that their brand of conservatives can control the other versions of conservatives and come out on top.



erieangel -> RE: Possible rhetorical question, but... (1/15/2012 8:53:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Try the 6/6/11 entry on her profile. It explains a lot.



Oh my.  I don't know what to say about that...



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