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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:25:30 PM   
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Schism is what CREATED the Amish.

Word.

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:25:40 PM   
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Very true.
Mind you, most other flavours of Christianity don't go around in a horse and buggy pretending it's still 1780, not even the ones who hold masses in Latin...


Actually Moonhead, the Amish aren't pretending the year is 1780...they are well aware of the current year.
Their religious beliefs just include living a simple life without the distractions and material things that you enjoy.
It's certainly not hurting you nor making demands on your life, so what does it matter how they choose to live? (Smiles)

And Masses have been said in ENGLISH for quite some time now. (And, since I'm SURE someone will bring it up, yes, there are SOME areas that are bringing Latin back!)

Dont worry Moon, I don't think you'll be needing to take any crash courses either way. LOL





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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:27:42 PM   
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Schism is what CREATED the Amish.

Word.


I had to go look up the word 'schism' and make sure I wasn't losing my mind.


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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:28:27 PM   
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In short, I have respect for the Amish, and certainly for my Mennenite neighbors.

I *am* glad the Mennenites use tractors...pulled my car out of the ditch one winter....


So you are saying they DO have some merit?????
Call me shocked! LMAO

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:28:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are still Latin masses, and a local Lutheran church does a High German service. Nothing wrong with the classics.

Was it the Shakers who didn't have sex? So that there were never new Shakers, only ones that came into the group...



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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:29:08 PM   
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How is it self reliant if you are relying on the money from other people to support your way of life?


I'm hoping people remember this example next time they argue against free trade.


Im lost here. Blame it on the low sugars, but, would you mind explaining? Here or cmail would be fine, Master Tim.

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:30:36 PM   
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So you are saying they DO have some merit?????
Call me shocked! LMAO


I dont believe anyone said they didnt.

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:30:36 PM   
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In short, I have respect for the Amish, and certainly for my Mennenite neighbors.

I *am* glad the Mennenites use tractors...pulled my car out of the ditch one winter....


So you are saying they DO have some merit?????
Call me shocked! LMAO


Look, for the umpteenth time...

YOU have some bizarre notion that people are dumping on the Amish. READ what they are saying, and get out of your own head.

Please. Arguing where there is no argument is just silly.

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:31:39 PM   
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There are still Latin masses, and a local Lutheran church does a High German service. Nothing wrong with the classics.

Was it the Shakers who didn't have sex? So that there were never new Shakers, only ones that came into the group...




I think you're right. Didn't they put a board down the middle of the bed?

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:33:03 PM   
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There are still Latin masses, and a local Lutheran church does a High German service. Nothing wrong with the classics.

Was it the Shakers who didn't have sex? So that there were never new Shakers, only ones that came into the group...



It's been known for Catholic masses to be delivered in Latin as well. That's something Pope Adolph has a bit of a bee in his pointy hat about, in fact...

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:33:18 PM   
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How is it self reliant if you are relying on the money from other people to support your way of life?


I'm hoping people remember this example next time they argue against free trade.


Im lost here. Blame it on the low sugars, but, would you mind explaining? Here or cmail would be fine, Master Tim.

Trade relies on markets. How successful a business could a small Amish community support merely among themselves? They, like any economy, rely on outside markets.

The same is true on larger scales. To shut out our outside markets, as protectionists wish, would do tremendous harm, for the same reason, just with bigger numbers.

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:35:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Was it the Huterites? I don't remember but I do know there was a religious sect that believed in complete celibacy for all. Depending only on conversion.

I googled and found it was the Shakers.....could not remember.



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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:37:39 PM   
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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:38:13 PM   
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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:45:48 PM   
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I love horses, have two of them. I have no problem with people utilizing them in a humane manner.When I ride my horses, they are being used as beasts of burden. Yet, at least one of them, enjoys it. He get's excited and starts calling to me when he sees signs something is going to happen. But he is well fed, healthy, and very well cared for. He isn't abused or over worked. I've been known to walk him for miles (as in me walking next to him rather than riding) when he became unexpectedly lame or sore on a long trail ride, just to avoid causing him pain or harm.

As for self reliance. Go to any farmer's market around here. Craft show. Gift shop. Drive down the roads and see the signs. Amish made this, Amish made that. Hell, the hay auction I go to has them hauling in all sorts of things to sell. Goats, firewood (with chainsaw marks...) feed bins they've built, you name it. They are not just selling this stuff to one another.



Self reliance involves relying on ones resources and talents. Being capable of depending on oneself.

These people are incredibly hard-working, and I doubt that most of you (myself included) could even begin to keep up with them doing the work they do in just one day.

Yes, they DO make the majority of what they own, along with many items that they sell to the rest of us. However, I don't see them using any brut force to get the nonAmish to buy their products ...(chuckling) unless of course they use different tactics during hay auctions...

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 12:54:33 PM   
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Was it the Huterites? I don't remember but I do know there was a religious sect that believed in complete celibacy for all. Depending only on conversion.

I googled and found it was the Shakers.....could not remember.



Google "shaker furniture". Very simplistic and spindly but strong and well designed.

Beautiful and valuable as there are no more Shakers to manufacture it.

Hlen. Your bed board is someting used in colonial times for what they called "bundling"

Wintertime dating consisted of the parents putting a board on edge in the middle of the bed and the couple would lie there under the covers and talk one on each side of the board. this would allow for conversation and a chaste kiss.
The theory was that they wouldn't dare lay the board flat and meet in the middle.
If you look at wedding and birth records during colonial times, you will see a LOT of 'premature births'.

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 1:00:45 PM   
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As for self reliance. Go to any farmer's market around here. Craft show. Gift shop. Drive down the roads and see the signs. Amish made this, Amish made that. Hell, the hay auction I go to has them hauling in all sorts of things to sell. Goats, firewood (with chainsaw marks...) feed bins they've built, you name it. They are not just selling this stuff to one another.


Interesting story, actually. With increasing population dividing the same farmland, some Amish found it necessary to take outside jobs, and with little education, this meant factory work. Factories, as you can imagine, didn't gel well with Amish values, so they turned to cottage industries as a solution.

Some of these have been remarkably successful, with some businesses exceeding $500,000 in profits. This is causing new concerns that the newly wealthy will become a commercial class and become dissatisfied with traditional Amish life. More than half of Amish men now work in these non-farming industries.

http://www.welcome-to-lancaster-county.com/amish-way-of-life.html


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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 1:01:39 PM   
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Did they last very long?


Based upon what I came up with via google.......not really. They took in orphans it said, rather than having children.

I didn't get that ALL Shakers were celibate. I just did a brief scan to remember the 'who'.

And yeah Hill, some of my favourite antique pieces in my previous life were old Shaker pieces. Celebrating the beauty of the wood and craftsmanship rather than a lot of fluff.


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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 1:02:55 PM   
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Did they last very long?


According to Wikipedia, there are three left as of January, 2011. Also Wiki says in thier heyday there were 6,000 Shakers.

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RE: Amish Sexting? - 1/16/2012 1:03:31 PM   
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Hutterites are another thing again. There really needs to be a Protestant Glossary.

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