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PeonForHer -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 3:50:00 PM)

Jesus, BDSM is full of bigotry, isn't it? Look at all those femsubs who go for utter windbags amongst Doms. And, me, well . . . I do expect a certain level of 'males are inferior' amongst Femdoms. I can find it ludicrous, but still find it horny. We thrive on a dash of bigotry in BDSM, don't we? It's all bollocks when looked at intellectually, of course - but a teaspoon of the right kind can get the juices flowing in the old trouser department, no?




MariaB -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 3:54:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

You bitch!

I like you. Lots.


Me..a bitch?!?! I speak the truth Nine but you and me both know that only men from Essex wear black shirts with white ties and it just had to be pointed out!

Seriously though, this guy has been hung drawn and quartered and I respect the bloke for keeping his cool and continuing to contribute to the thread.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 3:54:44 PM)

If it's the right kind, Darling, of course it's exciting and fun. What I mean are the people who go to the mall and judge the people walking past as being Fit For Society. Because heaven forfend their eyes be offended by someone elderly, or fat, or of the wrong ethnicity.

So yes, i want to know right off if someone would rather be dead than fat, or if driving a bus is just NOT an acceptable job.




PeonForHer -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 3:55:35 PM)

FR

The OP looks like Angus Deayton.

Just had to mention that before this thread closes.




Ninebelowzero -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 3:57:24 PM)

OMG Just been watching Dr Feelgood & Wilco Johnson was wearing that in '78

maybe Florida is Canvey Island with hurricanes.
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ORIGINAL: MariaB


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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

You bitch!

I like you. Lots.


Me..a bitch?!?! I speak the truth Nine but you and me both know that only men from Essex wear black shirts with white ties and it just had to be pointed out!

Seriously though, this guy has been hung drawn and quartered and I respect the bloke for keeping his cool and continuing to contribute to the thread.






PeonForHer -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 4:01:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

If it's the right kind, Darling, of course it's exciting and fun.


Could you call me 'darling' with a lower case 'd', hon? It makes me feel unsubly otherwise. Ta.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 4:12:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

If it's the right kind, Darling, of course it's exciting and fun.


Could you call me 'darling' with a lower case 'd', hon? It makes me feel unsubly otherwise. Ta.


No. You are not the boss of me. Ask me something else, though, I might agree to it!




MariaB -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 4:17:18 PM)

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ResidentSadist -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/21/2012 4:17:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dscouple7383
Ok, well......lesson learned.

Never get on a message board first thing in the morning when you are NOT a morning person! LOL

I understand my OP was mean spirited in tone, and I have apologized for that already. . .

So you are saying that when I look at the dairy creamer for my morning coffee and my thoughts wander to images of the cows that produced the cream which segues to thoughts about the heifers I've met in the BDSM society, I shouldn't even consider posting about it until after I have had my coffee? 

Thank you for the heads up on the ramifications of fat chat on the forums. 
[:)]






BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 3:22:59 AM)

see, dude, this is such a king hell bummer. you tried to say something provocative, and you didn't really say it that well but you touched enough raw nerves to provoke a reaction anyway. then you just keep cowering and equivocating and begging and it's all just so sad. :(

it's like when you not only get flashed by an old dude in the park but you can't help noticing he didn't even bother to get it up. all flaccid and wrinkly and gross. :(


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ORIGINAL: Dscouple7383

Ok, well......lesson learned.

Never get on a message board first thing in the morning when you are NOT a morning person! LOL

I understand my OP was mean spirited in tone, and I have apologized for that already.

Judging by the response, it's a valid topic, I just shouldn't have been so mean and in a bad mood when I typed the post in the first place.
Because people took what I said WAY out of context.
So, I will TRY to set the record straight, and if you still think I'm an asshole, then so be it.

First off, I would like to point out that in no way do I think that I am all that plus a bag of chips, nor did I ever say that I thought I was. In fact, the post was MORE about people around MY AREA ONLY who appear to not care about themselves or their appearance.
Now....if that's how they want to be, then GREAT!! That doesn't make them worse than me, and it sure doesn't make me better than them. What it DOES do, is makes us different. I'm also not "frustrated" at not being able to find anyone to play with or whatever, as someone earlier tried to imply.

What I AM frustrated with, is not being able to find people near me who share the same kind of mindset. And by the same kind of mindset, I mean people who make an effort to take care of themselves. THAT'S IT!!!

There is a HUGE difference (no pun intended) on a woman OR MAN who is overweight and BEAUTIFUL, compared to an overweight SLOB who just doesn't give an f about anything, including themselves.

So, yes....I seem to be running into the latter, as opposed to the first. I think anyone who kept reaching out in the local community, and all they seemed to find were people who were more slobs than people who work hard and may not have the nicest clothes, or manicured nails or whatever, would get frustrated after a while.

I don't care whether you are ugly or supermodel. I don't care whether you are morbidly obese or if you are unhealthily skinny. I don't care if you are rich or poor. But what I DO care about is having a shred of pride in yourself. OR, having a shred of pride in your partner, to not allow them to just be a slob. And slob doesn't mean FAT!!! I've met plenty of skinny slobs.
So this isn't about weight EITHER!!!!!! It isn't about women or men. It's about a mentality. And I'm frustrated that I haven't, as yet, found people in our local community who share that same mentality.

And the reason for my question about how many people or what percentage of people are in this lifestyle out of necessity, ALSO falls in line with the same people (dominant and submissive) who email you and get incredulous when you don't respond to them. It's almost as if the very fact that they are submissive or dominant, means that you are automatically interested in them, no matter what they look like, how old they are, what kinks they are into, etc. And THAT is where looks and appearance DO have a little bit of importance.
To me, it's the same type of mentality.
And again, TO ME, just because you affix a label to you, doesn't just grant you access to everything. Anything worth doing takes EFFORT. It takes WORK. And I'm not finding people with the same motivation. I think if everyone were honest with themselves, you can understand how that MIGHT be a touch frustrating.


Granted, that doesn't give me license to generalize the way I did, and to be mean spirited. I DO understand that.
The saving grace to me, is that I didn't call anyone out specifically. I only referred to the people who I have met in my previous local community, and I've only started to see signs of the same type of mentality in the local community where I am now. If you are locally in my community, and I've met you and you have met me? Then I can understand you taking issue with my comments, and I will be happy to have further discussions with you. But if you are in my local community and I haven't met you, then I am OBVIOUSLY not talking about you!!!

Maybe there are others out there who have the same type of motivation, drive, and mentality that my fiance, our sub, and I have. But at the time I wrote my original post, I was starting to feel like there aren't any people out there close to us who we can talk to, meet, share ideas, stories, etc.
We aren't looking to "hook up", and I'm NOT frustrated with that. We never have had problems with "hooking up" if we wanted to do things like that, or play. So, for all those who think I'm frustrated with not being able to "find" someone, I will be getting married on March 4th to the love of my life! And yes, I met her on this site. AND we met our sub on this site as well.
So, we are HAPPY and don't NEED to "find" people for any reason other than to socialize and to rub elbows with people of like mind.

It's just that people of like mind are few and far between.
I got frustrated.
I am human.

Apologies to anyone who was DIRECTLY offended at what I had to say, because there really wasn't any intent on attacking any PERSON individually, but rather a mindset that I am finding to be more prevalent than I had anticipated.

Take care,

Derek





seababy -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 3:31:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MariaB

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Maria -Hacking my computer and stealing my glamour shots!




Fornica -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 5:44:54 AM)

oh my god, best post ever..lmfao
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ORIGINAL: BoxwineForBrunch

see, dude, this is such a king hell bummer. you tried to say something provocative, and you didn't really say it that well but you touched enough raw nerves to provoke a reaction anyway. then you just keep cowering and equivocating and begging and it's all just so sad. :(

it's like when you not only get flashed by an old dude in the park but you can't help noticing he didn't even bother to get it up. all flaccid and wrinkly and gross. :(







xssve -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 9:21:09 AM)

Well of course pretty people have kinky sex because they're free spirited, interesting and adventurous, us slovenly uggos only do it because we're desperate.






LadyHibiscus -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 9:45:24 AM)

Okay, I might love Boxwine. That's Henchman material if ever I saw it.




sunshinemiss -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 1:25:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I would prefer that people speak their minds, even if the views are less than popular. I want to know if I'm dealing with a bigot up front, or just a garden variety snob (which I admit to being, absolutely).




I don't know Hib... I have had a similar thought once or twice in some of the places I've attended munches.    I've been to many that were NOT like that, but I've been to a few over the years that were exactly as he described.  If it were my first foray into the community, I'd probably have a similar perspective.  I think that sometimes the people who get together in some groups actually do get together because they are misfits of a sort.  Maybe every group is a group of misfits!  It's just a question of your particular flavor of misfit!

Best,
sunshine




LadyHibiscus -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 7:40:12 PM)

Not what I meant, Sunny---as a lifelong edge person and scifi fan, I understand that whole "did someone SEE you before you left the house?" reaction. I mean that I want to know if someone is a No Fatties, or No Jews, or No Whatever type, without any filters. I expect that we all have different taste, and different preferences, but if someone is going to dismiss me out of hand for my hideous freakishness, they don't need to be a hypocrite on my account.




sunshinemiss -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 8:04:28 PM)

Ah, thank you for explaining.  And by the by, I've never experienced "hideous" or "freakish" in or around you... Fantastically quirky maybe... but the other?  GTHOOH!




LadyHibiscus -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/22/2012 8:13:51 PM)

A Fetl inside joke...sorta![;)]




subcurious12 -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/24/2012 7:29:26 PM)

Ok, this subject has been beaten (insert groan) to death but I'm going to pop my forum cherry here and comment anyway.

I think the smack down of the OP is a valid illustration of why there may appear to be a disproportionate number of overweight or 'unattractive' people involved in bdsm. Quite simply, the community is very welcoming and makes people who don't fit the mold (self included) feel comfortable with being visible. To me this is simply beautiful.

To answer the original question (well, it wasn't really much of a question, but semantics schemantics), this fat chick is not here because she can't get it elsewhere. Do I get propositioned more frequently here than in vanilla world? Absolutely. But you know what? I get propositioned pretty regularly out there too. Is the attention nice? Yeah, it is. What's nicer is exploring a world where my submissiveness is valued rather than trampled on. I'm still a newbie/haven't made it into r/l yet but exploring my submissive side has made me more capable of asserting myself and more aware of what it is that I need from a partner--THAT is why I'm here.

And to add to the chorus...you're not that hot and anyone who describes themselves as being VERY ATTRACTIVE is a complete tool box...not someone I would ever want to fuck or serve in any capacity.




Dscouple7383 -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/24/2012 8:09:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subcurious12

Ok, this subject has been beaten (insert groan) to death but I'm going to pop my forum cherry here and comment anyway.

I think the smack down of the OP is a valid illustration of why there may appear to be a disproportionate number of overweight or 'unattractive' people involved in bdsm. Quite simply, the community is very welcoming and makes people who don't fit the mold (self included) feel comfortable with being visible. To me this is simply beautiful.

To answer the original question (well, it wasn't really much of a question, but semantics schemantics), this fat chick is not here because she can't get it elsewhere. Do I get propositioned more frequently here than in vanilla world? Absolutely. But you know what? I get propositioned pretty regularly out there too. Is the attention nice? Yeah, it is. What's nicer is exploring a world where my submissiveness is valued rather than trampled on. I'm still a newbie/haven't made it into r/l yet but exploring my submissive side has made me more capable of asserting myself and more aware of what it is that I need from a partner--THAT is why I'm here.

And to add to the chorus...you're not that hot and anyone who describes themselves as being VERY ATTRAoCTIVE is a complete tool box...not someone I would ever want to fuck or serve in any capacity.


Thank you for the post! One question.....do you only look for dominants who don't think of themselves as attractive? You may not agree with the statement, but I didn't know that having a favorable opinion of yourself was a bad thing.




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