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RE: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout - 1/25/2012 7:43:29 PM   
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Information is not a thing, Musicmystery.


Yes, it is. If it isn't a 'thing', then it can only be a 'nothing' - literally. Information; knowledge, ideas - they're not 'nothing'. No offence, Rule, but I would venture to suggest that you're speaking bollocks, there.


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RE: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout - 1/25/2012 7:45:47 PM   
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so if i were to do it legally, you seem to still have a problem with it.


Where the fuck do you get that idea?

Even when we're in agreement, you seem to still have a problem with it.

Argue with someone else.

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RE: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout - 1/25/2012 8:20:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
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ORIGINAL: Rule
Information is not a thing, Musicmystery.

Yes, it is. If it isn't a 'thing', then it can only be a 'nothing' - literally. Information; knowledge, ideas - they're not 'nothing'. No offence, Rule, but I would venture to suggest that you're speaking bollocks, there.

Your reasoning is flawed.
Indeed, in Dutch we may use the word thing to indicate a concept as in "..., dat is één ding) (that is one thing/argument). However, the basic meaning of the word is that it is some kind of physical inanimate object, like a chair or a car or a corpse (that one can throw through a glass window, breaking the glass). A living person or plant or animal by definition is not a thing, nor are they nothing.

Now if you can throw information, knowledge, ideas through a glass window and break the glass, then I will admit that these concepts are things. As long as you cannot, to me they are neither things nor nothing, just as living persons, animals and plants are neither things nor nothing.

In fact, considering this issue, I am starting to wonder whether these concepts have the characteristic of being animated. Information can grow, mutate, age, multiply, procreate, give birth to new information, be wounded, bleed, and die. Not so?

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RE: English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout - 1/25/2012 8:34:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: Rule
Information is not a thing, Musicmystery.

Yes, it is. If it isn't a 'thing', then it can only be a 'nothing' - literally. Information; knowledge, ideas - they're not 'nothing'. No offence, Rule, but I would venture to suggest that you're speaking bollocks, there.

I dont know about that.. information is really only good if you do something with it.. like knowing how to build something (from a book, patent, etc) is only good if you use the info/knowledge to actually build it or several its.. until you do something with the info, its really just an idea in someones mind or on paper.. lots of information at the patent office that have not seen the light of day.. oh yeah.. it has to be good, useful information also.. well,.. unless you are the Enquirer, i guess..

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