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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Personally, I vote for the Russians.

No one seems to even think about them.  All the suspicion is on the US and Israel.

But - despite Obama's exception for "terrorist" - US policy isn't to allow assassinations.  And, truthfully, I don't think we have a robust enough network in country to do the things that are being done.

Israel, I doubt as well, since their preferred methods before (with Iraq, and then Syria) is to wait until the weapons are at a critical juncture and then simply bomb the crap out of everything until nothing but dirt is left.  As well, it exposes their entire network to exposure, and if proof comes out that they are behind it, it would give a perfect excuse for an Islamic Jihad against them.

But the Russians ... ahhh, the Russians ...

While they have been selling things to the Iranians, they can't really want an unstable country with nukes on their doorstep, and they have a historical interest in the area.  As well, they are known to be ready and willing to "not play nice" (don't know if it's common knowledge what they did in Lebanon about the time all the US citizens were being taken hostage, but the result was that the "terrorist" decided it was safer just to leave Russians alone).  The actions against Somalia pirates is indicative of their attitude about screwing around with Russians.

Plus, since they are more or less seen as a "friendly" nation to Iran, they travel and move much more freely in Iran, and have a large, diverse population to draw from, that can melt into the different ethnic and linguistic peoples of Iran.

In other words, they have the ability, the need, and the opportunity.  Plus, they can always lay it on the doorstep of the US and/or Israelis.

I think it's the Russians killing the scientist.  What's your opinion?

Firm

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Who is Killing Iranian Nuclear Scientists?

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Who gains? Who has a track record of murdering people it doesn't like left right and centre? Who claims to be "most vulnerable to a potential nuclear armed Iran? Who has spent the past few years trying to entangle and manipulate the US the US into military action against the Iranians? Who has the most to lose and the most to gain? Which country's Prime Minister has repeatedly claimed that a nuclear armed Iran is the "#1 existential threat" to his country's existence? Which country is in a state of virtual yet undeclared war with Iran?

Here's a hint to help people with the answer: The answers to all the above questions is exactly the same.

If you still can't figure it out, give up political analysis and consider a new career for yourself as a hat check floozy in a shady nightclub.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

Interesting theory that it could be Russia. There is an additional factor suggesting it could be them because of their conflict with Chechnya, an Islamic nation, and potential tensions with other principally Islamic nations on their doorstep, which a Nuclear Iran could well favour in any forthcoming conflict. Having said that they did go out of their way to assist Iran in firing up their nuclear power stations so I would be skeptical especially since Iran asserted a few days ago that they had proof the CIA were behind the operation http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/mourners-for-slain-iran-nuclear-expert-chant-against-us-israel-amid-calls-for-retaliation/2012/01/13/gIQA62kjwP_story.html but its interesting that no one thought it could be any of the Arab nations because its well known they are very worried about a Nuclear Iran too, and Iran threatened them today.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Hat check floozy

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are you chanelling my grandmother Tweak?

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Personally, I vote for the Russians.

No one seems to even think about them.  All the suspicion is on the US and Israel.

Well they are the ones with a dog in the fight not russia.

But - despite Obama's exception for "terrorist" - US policy isn't to allow assassinations.

Policy or not it is part of the constitution and we have been doing it since jefferson.

  And, truthfully, I don't think we have a robust enough network in country to do the things that are being done.

Perhaps because you are just as ignorant as the next person when it comes to what is and what is not in black opps.

Israel, I doubt as well, since their preferred methods before (with Iraq, and then Syria) is to wait until the weapons are at a critical juncture and then simply bomb the crap out of everything until nothing but dirt is left.  As well, it exposes their entire network to exposure, and if proof comes out that they are behind it, it would give a perfect excuse for an Islamic Jihad against them.

Israel has a long and well documented track record of assinations. For you to be unaware of this reflects either on your lack of knowledge of this topic or your desire to misinform your readers.

But the Russians ... ahhh, the Russians ...

Your past posts indicate your lack of ardor for all things russian.

While they have been selling things to the Iranians, they can't really want an unstable country with nukes on their doorstep, and they have a historical interest in the area.

Because you say iran is unstable does not ipso facto make it so. Perhaps you might share with us what you feel russias "historical" interest is in iran?

  As well, they are known to be ready and willing to "not play nice" (don't know if it's common knowledge what they did in Lebanon about the time all the US citizens were being taken hostage, but the result was that the "terrorist" decided it was safer just to leave Russians alone).  The actions against Somalia pirates is indicative of their attitude about screwing around with Russians.

Is it possible that the "terrorists" have an "axe to grind" with some but not all non arab/muslem people?

Plus, since they are more or less seen as a "friendly" nation to Iran, they travel and move much more freely in Iran, and have a large, diverse population to draw from, that can melt into the different ethnic and linguistic peoples of Iran.

Do you really feel that this sort of thing is beyond the capability of israel?

In other words, they have the ability, the need, and the opportunity.  Plus, they can always lay it on the doorstep of the US and/or Israelis.


What exactly was that need again?????

I think it's the Russians killing the scientist.  What's your opinion?


It's possible...but more probable would be that if they are... the israelies hired them to do it.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Interesting theory that it could be Russia. There is an additional factor suggesting it could be them because of their conflict with Chechnya, an Islamic nation, and potential tensions with other principally Islamic nations on their doorstep, which a Nuclear Iran could well favour in any forthcoming conflict. Having said that they did go out of their way to assist Iran in firing up their nuclear power stations so I would be skeptical especially since Iran asserted a few days ago that they had proof the CIA were behind the operation http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/mourners-for-slain-iran-nuclear-expert-chant-against-us-israel-amid-calls-for-retaliation/2012/01/13/gIQA62kjwP_story.html but its interesting that no one thought it could be any of the Arab nations because its well known they are very worried about a Nuclear Iran too, and Iran threatened them today.

The Russians are famous (or infamous) for their skill at dezinformatsiya or disinformation.  Give it a Google sometimes.  I researched it a lot while in the military and some of the stuff has been released and declassified since then.

They were entirely responsible for the entire "Nuclear Free" movement back in the 80s, in an attempt to keep US Pershing missiles out of Europe, for example. 

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
What's the relationship between Chechnya and Iran?

If those 2 are semi cozy, that would lend credence to the Russians being behind it.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
They were entirely responsible for the entire "Nuclear Free" movement back in the 80s, in an attempt to keep US Pershing missiles out of Europe, for example. 

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
They were entirely responsible for the entire "Nuclear Free" movement back in the 80s, in an attempt to keep US Pershing missiles out of Europe, for example. 

Really? And there was me thinking that CND was started back in the '50s.