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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 7:22:03 AM   
CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: LadyRope

I think,some people... live in another dimention.(fantasy sland)


We're all entitled to our own opinion as to the validity of something. Given what some people can be made to do with hypnosis and, in consideration of the similarity of the mental/spiritual connection that some dominants and submissives in a long-term relationship develop, this simple and yet complex stimulation/response does not seem all that unusual to me. However, I think that some people, whether it be due to a cynical nature or an unwillingness to believe in something other than their own experience (whic is somewhat strange in itself given the unbelievability of so many aspects of D/s / BDSM), are all too ready to dismiss something outside their belief system. It would be one thing if only one submissive on here spoke of it...it is another thing entirely when more than one mentions that this has happened to her/him and that she/he enjoys it.

Of course, it is easier to dismiss one at a time by replying to only one's stated experience and ignoring the rest of the missives.

Of course, MOO and YMMV.

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 8:31:25 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		I wasn't going to post to this thread given the outright and rude dismissiveness I witnessed in the other thread on this, but I wanted to thank you for this post, CreativeDominant, because the ability to do so comes (for me) from an intense spiritual connection with my Master, and from the power he wields.  When he displayed me to someone over the weekend, the subject came up, as the person was skeptical and curious.  Master said, "This is just flash.  All it is is an example of how deep the power goes and what is behind it."

To address some remarks made here, I have no idea if my chin tilted.  Or what I looked like.  I do know that I was left breathless and exhausted, my head spinning, panting, my face and chest completely flushed, and...well...some rather moist evidence emitting from me.  I have, on very rare occasion, "gushed" or "squirted" during an on command orgasm, but that tends to require stimulation for now.  I have learned however, that almost anything can exist if the mind wants it to.  Visualization goes a long way.  How many here have heard of basketball stars who played a perfect game without ever practiciing, or a concert pianist who played a perfect recital, after spending hours of time and effort visualizing such a performance?  For me, my mind brings my body where it needs to go.  I do not lay claim to some great feat, or brag about it, or jump up and down exclaiming "look what I can do!"  It simply is something I experience.  Tell me I am faking it.  It affects me not.

As for orgasm OR subspace, I experience both, together. It is not either/or for me.  I generally do not experience "sub space" without an orgasm.  But I do experience orgasms without going to sub space.

I will add, prior to knowing my Master - no, scratch that - prior to experiencing this first hand, I also claimed it was impossible and that others were faking it.  When Master told me he would have me doing this, I laughed.

Go figure.

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 8:37:26 AM   
redpetals


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i couldnt have said it better myself..
frankly i didnt want to waste the effort on
seemingly myopic people.
i knows what i knows what i knows

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 8:54:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brosco

Some may find this clip amusing - it is just a stage show and for entertainment, but I have no doubts in my mind about the power of hypnotism:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/47462/hypnotizing_orgasm/


OMG... where do you FIND that stuff, Brosco?   That was tooooooooo funny!

No...wait... it was GOOD!   

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 8:58:45 AM   
juliaoceania


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Command may be the wrong word... to the OP saying "control" as in denial and teasing is not the same thing.. which was what I was talking about... orgasm control...what do you call it when someone tells you to cum and you do? hmmmmmm... I wonder...lol

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 9:10:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
what do you call it when someone tells you to cum and you do? hmmmmmm... I wonder...lol

They might technically both be "orgasming by command" but I think they are very different acts in terms of how it happens and what the body is doing. 

Telling you to cry after you've been told your mother is dead and you're holding back tears is very different than telling you to cry when you're playing peek a boo with your nephew.



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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 9:21:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brosco
My kink is Orgasm, tease, denial and control.  I enjoy many other activities that are generally recognised and used in D/s, but for me, unless they add to the struggle and therefore my control, they aren't particularly important.Do others share my kink and want to discuss this further?



I've witnessed this supposed orgasm via instruction at parties. The people engaged in it seemed to think they were doing something oh so interesting and impressive, and seemed kind of.....  hrm... theatrical?

I did notice that the ladies doing it didn't show any of the more physical expressions that many ladies exhibit during orgasm. Their faces didn't flush. Their chins didn't tilt. Their muscles didn't tighten (at least the ones we could see). Their teeth didn't clench. Their breathing didn't quicken. It was a lot of "oh! oh! yes! Master!" and then a lot of looking around for audience reaction.

When one sees that kind of theatrical performance over and over again by different people, all calling it "cum on command" one begins to wonder the validity. I kind of chalked it up to shy exhibitionists that enjoyed role-playing, and then I went to watch the needle play thinking "whatever floats your boat."



Maybe we should retitle this thread to read, "Faking it on Demand."  *LOL*





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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 9:23:17 AM   
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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 9:36:57 AM   
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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 10:58:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Rabbits always!


As long as they do not die! Ok, showing my age again, who else knows what"the rabbit died" used to mean?

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 11:15:13 AM   
Bearlee


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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/2/2006 11:43:30 AM   
redpetals


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Status: offline 		i know what the rabbit test meant...but i thought they were talking about the little friend what comes in a box..lol

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/4/2006 9:10:51 PM   
Brosco


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
what do you call it when someone tells you to cum and you do? hmmmmmm... I wonder...lol

They might technically both be "orgasming by command" but I think they are very different acts in terms of how it happens and what the body is doing. 

Telling you to cry after you've been told your mother is dead and you're holding back tears is very different than telling you to cry when you're playing peek a boo with your nephew.




LA, I haven't found a single post here that would try to dispute that they are different acts, so I ponder as to what your point is.

From the majority of people I have spoken to, the training to cum-on-demand without the slightest stimulation involves a high degree of stimulation initially - its certainly the method I use.  The concept is to hold a person close to the edge for a prolonged period and the say 'cum for me now'  (or Watermelon - if that rocks your boat:), and over a period of time, assoiciate the cumming with the command - not the arousal.  As the association deepens, less arousal is required for the command to work - until eventually, no stimulation at all is required.

It is also a training that requires positive reinforcement, and so the Dom (especially initially) sets up situations for success rather than failure.

As a side note I have at last managed to go through the previous thread on this topic.  It was very interesting as for much of the time took a slightly different approach to the topic, so I don't feel the slightest guilt for raising it again.

Part of the previous exchange also involved discussion about women who have difficultly in cumming and have reduced it to a minor part of their lives, especially after finding that the pressure to O created a tension that resulted in an exercise in frustration.  O-control will not help everybody, just as recommending the 'perfect' toy wont work for all, but I do know that O-control has managed to help a number of women with this 'problem'.  By shifting the focus from cumming to not cumming, the mind can relax and enjoy the arousal without pressure of achieving an ultimate goal.  Strangely, and I state again, for some, this approach/training has managed to give some wonderfully rewarding experiences.

Brosco

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/4/2006 10:49:54 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		I'm able to (usually) delay an orgasm when he tells me to wait, and then have it once he gives me permission, though I do experience what another member said...it takes time to be able to actually hit the full orgasm since I was made to wait. 

We've tried to fiddle with the whole concept of orgasm on demand/command, but...neither of us are grasping the concept lol

Are there any topics on the site that give pointers on ::HOW:: to accomplish this?  Or is it pointless to ask because it's never the same for any two people?

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/4/2006 10:51:40 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		"From the majority of people I have spoken to, the training to cum-on-demand without the slightest stimulation involves a high degree of stimulation initially - its certainly the method I use.  The concept is to hold a person close to the edge for a prolonged period and the say 'cum for me now'  (or Watermelon - if that rocks your boat:), and over a period of time, assoiciate the cumming with the command - not the arousal.  As the association deepens, less arousal is required for the command to work - until eventually, no stimulation at all is required."

I think that's the answer to my previous post, sorry

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/5/2006 4:07:56 AM   
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http://www.bestslavetraining.com/orgasmcontrol.htm

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 6/5/2006 4:53:06 AM   
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i just wanted to add my own opinion. It is definitely something that isn't possible for everyone. i hadn't ever had it happen to me before i met my current Master. It also isn't accompanied by a lot of theatrics when it happens. :)



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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 7/24/2006 12:26:04 AM   
odinlove


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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 7/24/2006 2:30:25 AM   
Mavis


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ORIGINAL: Brosco

Cum-on-demand does not require hypnotism but there are some similarities in that it does require the mind to be open to suggestion. 


Ok,  i have an example ..  in 8th grade, Drill team field trip, we had one girl who had talked incessantly for weeks about how we were going to pack vodka and make screwdrivers.   The girls decided to mess with her a bit, and save some vodka at the same time.  They mixed her drinks.  She got orange juice mixed with just an itty bitty bit of vodka for the first glass, then after, just straight orange juice,.

i saw her get sloppy drunk, puke, then pass out.   On Orange juice.

So..  she obviously was pretty open to suggestion.  but my question is.. did she really cum?

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RE: Orgasm on Demand - 7/24/2006 2:43:44 AM   
Mavis


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Status: offline 		There is some element to the conditioning aspect of this that is recognised/ practiced  subconciously even among nillas.  i have discussed it with friends before i knew there was such a thing as BDSM.  

Just before i'm about to pop over, Hubby knows and makes this special smile and nods three times.  always has.  i assume always will.   and it's become so associated with an impending orgasm that now He can do that with a longer span and my reactions will move up to that point faster.   i still wouldn't call it cum on command, i have to be heading there already, there has to be stimulation going, and it needs that exact context. His regulaer smile and nodding doesn't send me to quivers at Wal-Mart....Unless He's handing me His wallet, and nodding and smiling...

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