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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 6:59:07 AM   
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I have a consulting company.  We develop things and are also paid to develop things.  Sometimes we are contracted to do a specific job.  If the company that hired looks at us as a business partner then since they are paying us and we don't participate in their profits that could make us a "fake" business partner.  Fortunately, our customers are smart enough to see us as contracted and thus not fake at all -- that is we indeed do bring the talent that we were paid to bring (and then we go home).

Please feel to use your imagination to see the parallel.


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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 9:53:05 AM   
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I do agree most Pros are real. Just was hoping to hear other points of view from some experiences posters.

Then why didn't you ask that? You start out with the premise that ProDommes are fake instead of just coming right out and asking for other points of view. And, believe me, that's nothing new around here....attacking Pros I mean. That could be why you got the "cool" reception.

And that thing you said about people attacking you and making you look bad. You made yourself look bad, no one else had to do it. And no one was attacking you. Or, in your words "attaching" you. They were just insistent on getting answers to their questions instead of being ignored, which you apparently like to do.

You know what I think? I think you're just trying to stir up shit. Oh, and I perved your profile. It's totally about kink and there's nothing vanilla mentioned on it at all. It most definitely does NOT make you look like a well-rounded and interesting person. Could that be why you're complaining about Pros, because you're not having any luck with the non-Pros?

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 10:15:03 AM   
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You know what I think? I think you're just trying to stir up shit. Oh, and I perved your profile. It's totally about kink and there's nothing vanilla mentioned on it at all. It most definitely does NOT make you look like a well-rounded and interesting person. Could that be why you're complaining about Pros, because you're not having any luck with the non-Pros?


Wow, you can determine all that about a person from a few sentences on a profile? Please tell me who is going to win the Superbowl or what Apple is stock is going do. We can all get rich on your amazing powers ;)

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 10:23:57 AM   
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quote:

I have a consulting company.  We develop things and are also paid to develop things.  Sometimes we are contracted to do a specific job.  If the company that hired looks at us as a business partner then since they are paying us and we don't participate in their profits that could make us a "fake" business partner.  Fortunately, our customers are smart enough to see us as contracted and thus not fake at all -- that is we indeed do bring the talent that we were paid to bring (and then we go home).

Please feel to use your imagination to see the parallel.


Congratulations of having a company, but you analogy isn't very relevant here. I hope you do a little better for your clients. But thanks for trying.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 11:28:00 AM   
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Dear Oinkster,
After reading your profile, I did not think "a helplessly addicted paypig" would come here to whine and cry about paying for pro services.  I also didn't think you could be "helplessly addicted" without having had some real experience which means you know they are real.

You don't appear to be some HNG that read his first BDSM book and decided to get online and find a Playboy Bunny with a whip that was gonna' be so honored by that fact you picked her, she would be your undying and grateful owner.  

I was left pondering exactly what a paypig would mean by questioning the statement "ProDoms are fake?" and make the proclamation "just about the money".  Then I read your journal and learned you are "wounded", "vulnerable" and seeking "love".  The only detailed information you provide us is a Christmas story about a married and cheating man paying for kinky sex. 

I am left with the impression that you are, or identify with married & cheating.  You pay for kinky sex and you are a wounded puppy seeking love.  I hope you don't think searching the internet for paid sex professionals will find you the love you seek.  Your profile says you don't "expect Her to develop the same feelings".  By feelings, do you mean "blood pumping and weak knees" or the "love" feelings you seek? 

I suggest you straighten out your profile so it doesn't meet with the same failure that your thread has.  If I were a ProDom and read this thread and your profile, I would think you were an emotional mess.  I wouldn't go near you with a 10 foot pole.  There are plenty of other clients that are stable and clear about their goals.

I wish you luck finding your "hooker with a heart of gold" and for posting this mess of a thread for our entertainment. . . I thank you. 

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 11:49:19 AM   
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ResSad

I laughed after reading the first sentence of the BS you are spitting out. Don't let the facts get in the way of your bitchy and moaning. You certainly are very good at spinning little tales in your head...at least you are good at something.

Peace on


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Dear Oinkster,
After reading your profile, I did not think "a helplessly addicted paypig" would come here to whine and cry about paying for pro services.  I also didn't think you could be "helplessly addicted" without having had some real experience which means you know they are real.

You don't appear to be some HNG that read his first BDSM book and decided to get online and find a Playboy Bunny with a whip that was gonna' be so honored by that fact you picked her, she would be your undying and grateful owner.  

I was left pondering exactly what a paypig would mean by questioning the statement "ProDoms are fake?" and make the proclamation "just about the money".  Then I read your journal and learned you are "wounded", "vulnerable" and seeking "love".  The only detailed information you provide us is a Christmas story about a married and cheating man paying for kinky sex. 

I am left with the impression that you are, or identify with married & cheating.  You pay for kinky sex and you are a wounded puppy seeking love.  I hope you don't think searching the internet for paid sex professionals will find you the love you seek.  Your profile says you don't "expect Her to develop the same feelings".  By feelings, do you mean "blood pumping and weak knees" or the "love" feelings you seek? 

I suggest you straighten out your profile so it doesn't meet with the same failure that your thread has.  If I were a ProDom and read this thread and your profile, I would think you were an emotional mess.  I wouldn't go near you with a 10 foot pole.  There are plenty of other clients that are stable and clear about their goals.

I wish you luck finding your "hooker with a heart of gold" and for posting this mess of a thread for our entertainment. . . I thank you. 

Best wishes,
Kalon Eric



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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 11:55:13 AM   
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OP, YOU are the one who filled his profile and journal with the Saga.

Was there a point to your thread at all? Because we are here to kill time and be entertained.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 11:57:42 AM   
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i suggest you read his profile...pay attention to the captions of the photos if he hasn't taken it down already.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:15:22 PM   
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quote:

ResSad I laughed after reading the first sentence of the BS you are spitting out. Don't let the facts get in the way of your bitchy and moaning. You certainly are very good at spinning little tales in your head...at least you are good at something.

Peace on


WHAT FACTS??? No one has a clue as to what your damage is.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:15:41 PM   
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Po faced sanctimonious patronising tosspot.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:17:49 PM   
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Okay, I'm out of here..i now regret being part of this thread. Joking or not i want nothing to do with that kind of stuff.

Peace on

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:19:32 PM   
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quote:

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Po faced sanctimonious patronising tosspot.


This is one of those threads where I'm hooked on reading it by the last comment rather than the first - with an "Oooh - what happened here??"


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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:30:57 PM   
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Lol Peon I just got naffed off with someone accusing someone else of being a peado for a cheap drama moment

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:37:56 PM   
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No information from the person posting is not the best way to seek learning.

I know some professional sex workers who are friends. Each of them has their own motivation for choosing this work, and like most of us, they need to earn a living.

Some professionals are totally playing roles which their customers pay them to do.

Some are real life subs but work as pro-dommes because experience has taught them clients in one on one situations with a pro-sub often can not be trusted to play safe.

Some are not domme or sub at all but are playing the domme role they are paid to play while working.

Some are not into guys at all in real life, but will put up with them at work because of the pay.

Some LOVE every second of their domination, and are very happy to have these jobs.

Some got into this from other forms of sex work. Lots of them tried exotic dancing first, and enjoyed the control domination gives them.

There are probably 2 or 3 times as many reasons as there are professional dominatrixes.

In any case, if one seeks to have a new partner of ANY flavor fulfill one's needs or desires, it is a very good idea to thoroughly and honestly TALK to them about these things. Negotiation is always important, unless you are patronizing a place with just a menu of what you can get for what prices. If the person does not give that which you need, best find someone else.

There are a fair number of escorts and of prostitutes who will throw a little "slap and tickle" into the date if nicely asked.

There are NOT many pro-dommes who will throw a little sexuality into the date when asked, but unless you negotiate you will not know.


Vield, nicely put, pretty much sums up my view. Some pros are into it lifestyle (i.e they play/have subs/slaves "In real life"), others do it because they like doing it as a job but don't do it in their 'real lives', etc. And like in any profession, there are those who do it well, who give the clients what they are looking for, others who come off as 'prostitutes with a whip' when you realize they are just going through the motions . As someone who did a number of pro sessions for several years before it came into my 'real life', there are a lot of fantastic pro dommes out there, lifestyle and not, and I owe a great deal to one pro domme who helped me unlock a lot of myself and move beyond 'doing sessions for fun'. Sure, there are losers out there, people I did sessions with who by analogy showed as much enthusiam as the 'buble gum chewing whore' sitting there bored while some guy was boinking her......but it is like anything else. Pro dommes serve a need and most of the ones I dealt with were decent, hardworking professionals.

As far as no sex, well, that is for a lot of good reasons. For one, most of the pro dommes I knew/know have sex only with people they are interested in sexually, they aren't pro dommes to have sex with the clients (some found a spark with clients and later had relationships with them,but that is different). The other thing is it would be pretty stupid to have sex with a client in most places, that could get them shut down, bd/sm is a legal activity in most places, having sex for money is not.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:43:06 PM   
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Po faced sanctimonious patronising tosspot.


QFT.

On another topic entirely, Nine, you're in the Uk... you wouldn't have a spare fuse for a 60 Amp Acme Cuntometer, would you?

Only for some reason, old Bessy has just exploded.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:45:58 PM   
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Quick blow or standard?

Barrel or long?

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:48:29 PM   
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I doubt quick blow would last long on this thread...

Double barrelled perhaps?

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:48:46 PM   
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There is a big difference between a ProDom and a FinDom.



Indeed ...

I have known a few Pro Domme's ... and they were all wonderful Ladies ...

But self professed Fin Dommes? ROFL ... don't know ANY real ones ...

Then again, i don't know any Domme who cannot pry my wallet open, in real life!


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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:52:25 PM   
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I actually have the old 60 amp barrel fuse from my old house, it ran everything, how I never torched the place fuck knows.

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RE: ProDoms are fake? - 1/28/2012 12:56:57 PM   
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I know the sort.

I toured with an 80's Synth Pop band doing sound and light for a summer... some of the electrical travesties I committed should have burnt several venues down!

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