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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 9/20/2004 9:33:26 PM

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i agree with the fact that if a man/women desires to give tributes to their Dom/me then that should be between the two of them. but i know for a fact that i dont have a desire in any way shape or form to give away my income to someone that i will never lay eyes on or serve in real life. to me that is just stupid, reguardless of who she is or what she looks like. yet i have also fallen into this situation where i met a Domme in a yahoo chat room, and the first thing she ask for was my banking account #, and for me to send her a tribute of 150.00 or more to show my true submissivness. and being that i was rather new to the lifestyle it wasnt something i was aware of being that i didnt know shit about BDSM, and the rules, and or ideas of it other then that i was told by so called dommes in the past. so i gave a tribute but wasnt able to aford 150.00 as im on SSI, and of course she took it and about 3 weeks into this, she dissapeared, and her profile was gone. i have done this mnore then once, but never again! I know that there are some Dommes out there that do this to really see what your will to do for them, but there are way more that are just in it to use the BDSM lifestyle as a get rich sceme, and they could care less what happens to the poor fools that fall for their gags. Yet i have had 2 Dommes online that i have given all acdounts and passwords to, and they never changed anything or took anything from me, not even after they split. so i cant say all is the same. You can judge all for a few bad apples, not everyone or everything is the same.

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 9/21/2004 11:21:39 AM

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Is it the Merchant of Venice that contains the line: "base is the slave that pays."?

There are lots of money dommes on this site, more than on any comparable site. It is a scam for the vast majority. That is evident to anyone living in the real world. Perhaps that scene should be awarded its own section of collarme, segregated from the rest of the population and a charge levied for dominants who use it. The money would come in handy to fund the purer activities the rest of us indulge in. Also, it would discourage outright abuse --- as well as provide a handy pointer for the IRS/Inland Revenue/whatever its called in your country.

Of course, I don't disagree with true adherents to the "victimless crime" scenario. We should all be at liberty to follow our wondrous star. But for a small minority of our fellows, there are issues around mental health and we owe it to them to protect them from themselves WITHOUT restricting their right to self-expression.

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/7/2004 10:45:28 AM

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Not sure about money slaves, but I was talking with a sub/slave recently who said I had to talk to her Master for permission. Well I did talk to him, and was offered her providing i told what i wanted to do. I told and that was ok. Then he asked the punishing question, how much would i be willing to pay for her. I said nothing. He persisted and wanted $150 for 2 hours. More for the whole night, or full day. I told him I never pay for a woman and never for sure pay for a sub, and advised him to get out of the pimping business. Am I naive? Is this what money slaves are about, cus they can bark up another tree.

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/7/2004 12:06:12 PM

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Then he asked the punishing question, how much would i be willing to pay for her. I said nothing. He persisted and wanted $150 for 2 hours....Am I naive? Is this what money slaves are about, cus they can bark up another tree.

That's not what's usualy meant by "money slaves" - that term generally refers to a "slave" who pays a "Mistress" for online or telephone Domination. What you're describing (a Dom charging money for his sub's "favors") may or may not be OK, depending on variables that you might not know.

Being pimped out in that way is a not-unheard-of fantasy element for some Doms and subs. I don't see anything inherently wrong with prostitution per se, so as long as the sub is going into it with her eyes open and freely consenting, and as long as her own financial and emotional needs are being met and everyone comes away happy with the experience, then I can't see anything wrong with it.

The "money slave" routine is a little different. There, as long as the professional relationship is clearly established I can't see a problem with it. That is, if a man wants to pay a woman for online Domination then I think that's a poor use of his money, but he's a grownup and it's his business.

The problem comes in, I think, when the professional relationship is unclear. If a woman is telling the man that she'll give him more than just an online kick, once she gets just a little more money, or if she's telling a newbie that this is how all Mistresses work and he might as well get used to it, then that is simply fraud: the acceptance of money or favors under false pretenses.

It's easy to say that the man is at fault for falling for such a scam. And there's even some truth to that. But the fact that he's a foolish victim doesn't make him any less a victim, or her any less guilty. This is no different from any other con game in that regard.

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/7/2004 7:59:09 PM

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I don't see anyone here defending the actions of these " money Doms ". I sure don't. But anyone who would give money to them is just as much at fault. They are thinking with the wrong head. Just as any guy who would pay for a lap dance and expect anything more. These guys aren't victims. They are foolish.
And as for the original question of why any sub would do it? Because they want to.

Hey Y'all-
I have worked in the adult entertainment industry for four years. I give lap dances, sign glossies and take pictures with the men that come into the club. I have had several men meet me outside of the club and tell me what a wonderful time they had, and look forward to seeing me again. I would have to agree with EString that the men who expect me to do "something more" ARE foolish. I'm an entertainer. I am paid to entertain. My audience varies, but the fact that I am an entertainer does not.
As for the original question, I have gentlemen that come to see me on a regular basis at the club and give me mass quantities of money ($500-1200) for my time. Do I think that these men perhaps need to get another hobby or work on their social lives? At times, yes. But I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. A champagne room never hurt anyone. I work in a no-touch club with an awesome security system, so I can assure you that "there's nothin' dirty goin' on...". I have several guys that like to come and visit with me that I really don't like spending time with. I charge them more.
I'm probably off topic, as usual. I just wanted to say that some men are silly and foolish.
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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/8/2004 5:12:13 AM

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I didn't read through every last word in every post, but here's my 2 cents.....

If a man/woman chooses to respond to someone asking for a money slave, then more power to them. I see that as a lifestyle the same as the slave that's kept in a cage. They are both willing to do whatever for the Mistress/Master, just the means to the end is different.

I'd also be willing to bet there are Money Slaves out there saying "EEWWWW...why would anyone want to be a TONGUE slave?!?!"

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/9/2004 12:00:47 AM

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There really are males out there who "cum through their wallets" so to speak. What I do not do is tell any male he has to pay tribute to chat with Me or prove his loyalty. When they meet Me, they will pay for dinner, or buy the coffee. But if they want to take Me to dinner, take Me shopping, pay for a trip, send Me gifts, or just simply have Me control their money, that is their kink. Who am I to say no? I am not trolling for these guys, but it is out there, and I offer the service! Oh yes, I should tell you that I am a Pro Domme, also!

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/9/2004 12:06:51 AM

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If you're not deceptive about the nature of your profession, and if you don't deliberately give the impression that "something more" might be in the offing if you get the right tip, and most especially if you don't leave them with the impression that your affection is for sale, then I'd say you're an honest businesswoman and what they spend their money on is their business.

I think what you're describing is a different kettle of fish from "dominants" that I have seen do all three of those things. Those are hucksters and con-artists. They're no different from a hooker who slips the john a mickey and then rifles his wallet - they dishonor an otherwise honorable profession.

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/9/2004 9:38:33 AM

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not real sure just exactly a money slave is and these posts have made that worse

the net is full of many people playing many roles trying to make money I suppose guys fall for it out of severe lonliness its a pity that some are so abusive they have to steal 2 times from the same person once financially once emotionally

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/9/2004 11:35:54 AM

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From what i've heard, the real money slaves out there are people who own expensive boats and never use them but spend endless amounts of cash taking care of them while keeping them at the local marina. "A boat is a hole in the water into which you pour money."

This is essentially what i think of money slaves. As for myself, i would never do such a foolish thing. But...if i had a Partner, then it would go without saying that she would be in control of my finances. That's entirely different.

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/9/2004 11:59:28 AM

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As for the original question, I have gentlemen that come to see me on a regular basis at the club and give me mass quantities of money ($500-1200) for my time.

In your case Berlin, it's a transaction. You provide a service which they willingly pay for.

A little aside that someone told me not to long ago:

- When men solicit women for phone sex, it's sexual harassment.
- When women solicit men for phone sex, it's $3,99 per minute and long distance charges might apply.

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/9/2004 12:54:20 PM

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Well I once knew this woman who was involved with this guy O/L only and he told her he would bring her and her 2 kids to live with him she was all excited and he said a business deal fell through and could he borrow $800 for a week well needless to say she never heard from him again. This caused a hardship on her and her children. Now this woman was lacking in the brain dept. but it seems bad for a preditory little ass to do a thing like this. I had thought of the guy who did this as a *money* Dom maybe I was mistaken?...Mike

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RE: Money Slaves-Why would you be one? - 10/9/2004 10:27:54 PM

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Well I once knew this woman who was involved with this guy O/L only and he told her he would bring her and her 2 kids to live with him she was all excited and he said a business deal fell through and could he borrow $800 for a week well needless to say she never heard from him again. This caused a hardship on her and her children. Now this woman was lacking in the brain dept. but it seems bad for a preditory little ass to do a thing like this. I had thought of the guy who did this as a *money* Dom maybe I was mistaken?...Mike

That's the sort of thing I've seen too. It's a variation on an old con, and it works with either gender. The D/s dynamic just makes it worse, IMO, because there's a sense that the Dom has the "right" to ask for this - that giving money is an acti of submission, as well as an act of love and friendship.

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