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NocturnalStalker -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/4/2012 1:54:11 PM)
quote: i am not so self absorbed to want, need or require your acceptance. quote: Again thank you for sharing your constricted and limited belief system. Thank you for letting everyone know you would rather create barriers between people over one aspect of their lives. i bet you have 1000s other traits that would make you and i great friends. i bet you have a couple 100 of qualities that would you a great partner. It is truly a shame that you would let 1 thing destroy all of that potential. Sorry, I had to sift through your self-praising, pat-me-on-the-back drivel to just say one thing... "Hm..."

MariaB -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/4/2012 2:17:01 PM)
I do very much get what MrBukani is saying here. I know a lot of trans girls. I dated a TS for some time, my ex husband was a CD. We have a family secret and my eldest son has decided that his girlfriend, future wife and future children must never know something about him. Its not an illness, its not a health threat to his woman or future child. Whilst I have to respect his wish to be liberal with the truth about his past, he also expects all of his family to join him in keeping this secret. This puts stress on the family. The fear of slipping up and saying something is ever on our mind when we are with her. My fear is that the truth will eventually reveal itself by perhaps some forgetful aunt or grandmother and the devastation this may cause is worrying. Will she forgive him for keeping this secret away from her? Will she forgive us, her future extended family? perhaps, perhaps not. For sure she will feel like she never really knew him but the rest of his blood family had the privilege of knowing. How is that going to feel? I also don't think that we, his family, should have to be ever wary of what we say. Its a responsibility we shouldn't have to bare. RS I love your post. I was quite shocked to be honest because I thought you would be the last person in the world to come out with something like that. Just goes to show that we make the wrong judgements about people on here all the time. PolyDommesgirl I really like you, you have a great mind and a hell of a lot of wisdom. Good on you for getting through all those frigging hurdles and finding happiness.

MrBukani -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/4/2012 11:53:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker quote: It's a well known fact most straight guys fantasize about trio's with bi-girls. Oh, okay. That's cool. quote: Since you did not answer my question you are obviously avoiding the subject matter. You did not ask a question. You made an assumption that I would have a threesome with bi-sexual girls. quote: I am not asking you to like gay people, but I will demand respect. The topic is transsexuals. Not homosexuals. quote: BTW catlover, my birthname means alphawolf. Litterboxes stink like hell and a cat cant be trained. It is a useless pet except to pet. Dogs you can train to do almost anything and in this case help the blind. Thats why a dog is man's best friend. This is why I don't drink or do drugs. So thats why you are so uptight. Take a load of smoke a blunt and chill out. You started with the funny joke you fucked a man right? So thats gay right? Cant read between the lines? Still dont have any answers? Is the questionmark helpin?[:D] EDIT, look NS I dont wanna talk you down but I took the doggiething from your profile cause it is stacked to the brim with contradictions. It is not just this point about TS that is flawed. Really I am trying my best to help you although it might hurt a teeny bit. EDIT2 I will give you one more hint, you're underline about your platinum soul and all. Sounds like your shit smells like roses. It just sounds hmmmmm totally selfabsorbed.

MrBukani -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 12:05:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB I do very much get what MrBukani is saying here. I know a lot of trans girls. I dated a TS for some time, my ex husband was a CD. We have a family secret and my eldest son has decided that his girlfriend, future wife and future children must never know something about him. Its not an illness, its not a health threat to his woman or future child. Whilst I have to respect his wish to be liberal with the truth about his past, he also expects all of his family to join him in keeping this secret. This puts stress on the family. The fear of slipping up and saying something is ever on our mind when we are with her. My fear is that the truth will eventually reveal itself by perhaps some forgetful aunt or grandmother and the devastation this may cause is worrying. Will she forgive him for keeping this secret away from her? Will she forgive us, her future extended family? perhaps, perhaps not. For sure she will feel like she never really knew him but the rest of his blood family had the privilege of knowing. How is that going to feel? I also don't think that we, his family, should have to be ever wary of what we say. Its a responsibility we shouldn't have to bare. RS I love your post. I was quite shocked to be honest because I thought you would be the last person in the world to come out with something like that. Just goes to show that we make the wrong judgements about people on here all the time. PolyDommesgirl I really like you, you have a great mind and a hell of a lot of wisdom. Good on you for getting through all those frigging hurdles and finding happiness. This is the answer I was lookin for thanks. Couldn't have explained it better, it is exactly this kind of fear I am talkin about. The things you dont think about at first. All the others that have to lie for you. Yes very insightfull. To get back to the fun of the OP I remember an absolute knockout asian pro I used to see slender, double D and.... she was taller then me about 6'3. I always wonder to this day if she was post op or not. Asked her once but she kinda shrugged her head in a no. Still to this day I think she is post op. But the hell I care I went back many times in the good old red light district. I know it sounds obvious but she looked so perfect, I can understand she would not tell me. You dont wanna be remembered all the time.(edit-or loose closeminded clients for that matter[:D])

PolyDommesgirl -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 6:11:37 AM)
My statements would have been out of context without prefacing.

OttersSwim -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 6:20:36 AM)
For many trans people, the pre-op part of life is simply horrid and something to be "gotten through". They have decided feelings that a mistake was made - that they -are- the gender they identify with, not the gender they were born with. You hear phrases like "genetic defect" when they talk about their penis or vagina. It can be truly traumatic, and I empathize with people who just want it over with and want to live the same "normal" life that most everyone else gets. That sense of just wanting to be normal, invisible, accepted is powerful. Defying society gets old, let me tell you. Then we have multiple cases of transgender violence where the transperson is open and out - stalking, assault, torture, murder, being burned to death... Being open and transgendered can mean that you become a target for someone looking to cause physical harm to your person - because you are trans and open and out. Open and out trans people can have a really hard time finding work to - so there can be a decided financial cost as well. The answer of whether to disclose or not...is not nearly so black and white as some choose to believe. Everyone has a life circumstance that will affect that decision - whether you are a sex worker, an office manager, a veterinarian, or a lawyer (yes, I do know a trans lawyer)...and how you identify with your particular situation in being transgendered, and the person you are interacting with at any moment in time. Do you disclose when you go to coffee with someone? Do you disclose when you go for a job interview? Do you disclose when you are getting involved with someone? It is not just a "yes" answer. It is NOT.

Ninebelowzero -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 6:39:48 AM)
I don't understand it. I never will. What I do suspect is that the intolerance towards the Trans community in general is the last vestige of that towards homosexuality 30 years ago or so.

xssve -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 6:48:15 AM)
I don't believe you are obligated to tell your employer - unless you sleep with them. And I do understand the quandry here, I think I would rather know than not, but on the other hand, if he thinks you're a woman, and you feel like a woman, then you are a woman, which was really, the lesson I learned from the OP - it didn't make RS less of a man, it transformed his partner into a woman. So, sadly, as I am forced to admit I'm lacking that sort of chutzpah myself, to argue the converse: knowing you were once a man, it becomes an obstacle; it is going to pop into my head at some point, become a distraction - like ns - if you never told him and he couldn't tell, he'd be all smug about finally getting his cherry busted, and tell everybody in earshot - if you told him you were trans afterwards, he'd never come out of his mothers basement again, and spend the next 20 years getting fat on junk food and thinking: OMG! I'm gay! I don't think at this point, there is going to be any one-size-fit's-all solution, it's just too complicated an issue - there are for example, gay men who don't want to be out, who might prefer a trans as a beard - in which case if that trans is really a woman, then it's really not ideal for them, etc. I dunno, I think one is going to just have to rely on their best judgment here.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 1:52:53 PM)
quote: You started with the funny joke you fucked a man right? So thats gay right? I simply asked, "You fucked a guy?" In my belief, a transsexual is still their biological sex despite how much surgery they get. There is not anything wrong with ResidentSadist's preferences, but as someone I perceived as heterosexual up until this topic it took me aback. Any negativity was gained from your own ignorance which makes you wonder who really is the "disrespectful" one here. quote: Really I am trying my best to help you although it might hurt a teeny bit. Oh silly, you are helping me. You're helping me glance at what a life of people-pleasing does. Amplified in hilarity by watching you all but blatantly call transsexuals in the examples and on here liars about themselves. Maybe they don't tell their partners because they realize their partners would be repulsed on first reaction and kick them to the curb instantly. I don't blame their partners and not just because it was a secret being held back, but because that is the natural reaction of any sane human-being. Riddle me this: would you ever have a relationship with a transsexual? quote: Sounds like your shit smells like roses. It just sounds hmmmmm totally selfabsorbed. Good. I'm glad.

JanahX -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 2:10:57 PM)
that whole post made me glad.

ResidentSadist -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 8:48:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker ........ Riddle me this: would you ever have a relationship with a transsexual? ......... I don't think you understand. The SRS, when done well, is very hard to detect. It's not like they are just passable ... they are hot as hell. We are talking about a construct, not a random act of nature. They had their pussy, tits, ass and face designed by a plastic surgeon. And the show girl types like Lauren, spent more money on their doctor bills for body reconstruction, meds and surgeries over the years than most of you did on your damn house. Hell, my ex (christy) spent more than most people do on a car and she was a natural born. She looked so good, she was in Hustler at age 67. (Hustler Profile link) (CollarMe Profile link) So unless christy told you she was old enough to be your grandma, you would have no idea. Well, the same is true for many transsexuals, like Tula (Tula Nude Pic). One part of their battle is financial. And just like christy, they buy the best body they can afford. So riddle me this smart guy, how the hell would you even know if you slept with a transexual... unless they told you they weren't natural born? Is this why there is so much self centered bullshit and flag waving about the truth? You guys are so homophobic, you think every transsexual should "wear a badge of transformation" or something so you don't unknowingly stick your dick in someone that was born a boy? Here is another riddle oh' wise and nocturnal one. What if I told you that your ex girl was so appalled by her relationship with you, she turned lesbian and got a FTM sex change. Does the fact she is now a man, mean you were fucking a man when she was with you? Or, does it mean she is really still a woman and you can go suck her big fat brand new dick without homophobic repercussion? By your logic, you can go suck a dick but not be with a man. Astounding isn't it? So man up smarty pants... reality can't be defined further than what you see is what you get. [edit: type-o]

tweakabelle -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 10:05:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker quote: Really I am trying my best to help you although it might hurt a teeny bit. Oh silly, you are helping me. You're helping me glance at what a life of people-pleasing does. Amplified in hilarity by watching you all but blatantly call transsexuals in the examples and on here liars about themselves. Maybe they don't tell their partners because they realize their partners would be repulsed on first reaction and kick them to the curb instantly. I don't blame their partners and not just because it was a secret being held back, but because that is the natural reaction of any sane human-being. This piece of ugliness is hate pure and simple. Naked transphobia. Care to share why you hate trans ppl so much NS? Care to share why you feel the need to shout your hatred from the rooftops every time you get a chance? There is a school of thought that says hate like this comes from internal conflicts and unresolved desire for trans ppl. So when people read your posts, that is what a lot of intelligent people will be thinking. That deep down, you want trans ppl as your sexual partners, that you desire them and are unable to admit it to yourself or deal with your desires. They'll think this whether you like it or not. The only way you can stop people forming this conclusion is to offer a better, sensible rational reason why you feel the way you do. So, for your own sake, it might be best if you share with us the reasons why you feel the way you do and feel the need to state it so aggressively and dogmatically. I'm listening ..........

amaidiamond -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 10:35:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker quote: You started with the funny joke you fucked a man right? So thats gay right? I simply asked, "You fucked a guy?" In my belief, a transsexual is still their biological sex despite how much surgery they get. There is not anything wrong with ResidentSadist's preferences, but as someone I perceived as heterosexual up until this topic it took me aback. Any negativity was gained from your own ignorance which makes you wonder who really is the "disrespectful" one here. quote: Really I am trying my best to help you although it might hurt a teeny bit. Oh silly, you are helping me. You're helping me glance at what a life of people-pleasing does. Amplified in hilarity by watching you all but blatantly call transsexuals in the examples and on here liars about themselves. Maybe they don't tell their partners because they realize their partners would be repulsed on first reaction and kick them to the curb instantly. I don't blame their partners and not just because it was a secret being held back, but because that is the natural reaction of any sane human-being. Riddle me this: would you ever have a relationship with a transsexual? quote: Sounds like your shit smells like roses. It just sounds hmmmmm totally selfabsorbed. Good. I'm glad. Mods please, you deleted all of NS's transphobic bullshit - can you delete the new lot too please?

Jaquin -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/5/2012 11:06:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OttersSwim Open and out trans people can have a really hard time finding work to - so there can be a decided financial cost as well. It took me till a few months ago to get my first lasting job. Previous attempts killed my confidence and drive to bother when I was turned down, multiple times, after the interview stage. Word filtered to me that it was casuse nobody at the place wanted to work with a tg. I'm not saying I should have given up, but at the time I just wanted to hide. (on mobile device atm can post more detail later if needed)

MrBukani -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/6/2012 12:04:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker quote: You started with the funny joke you fucked a man right? So thats gay right? I simply asked, "You fucked a guy?" In my belief, a transsexual is still their biological sex despite how much surgery they get. There is not anything wrong with ResidentSadist's preferences, but as someone I perceived as heterosexual up until this topic it took me aback. Any negativity was gained from your own ignorance which makes you wonder who really is the "disrespectful" one here. quote: Really I am trying my best to help you although it might hurt a teeny bit. Oh silly, you are helping me. You're helping me glance at what a life of people-pleasing does. Amplified in hilarity by watching you all but blatantly call transsexuals in the examples and on here liars about themselves. Maybe they don't tell their partners because they realize their partners would be repulsed on first reaction and kick them to the curb instantly. I don't blame their partners and not just because it was a secret being held back, but because that is the natural reaction of any sane human-being. Riddle me this: would you ever have a relationship with a transsexual? quote: Sounds like your shit smells like roses. It just sounds hmmmmm totally selfabsorbed. Good. I'm glad. Mods dont touch this pretty please cause it is important to see what NS really thinks. You want an answer? Good I will show you what honesty is. I like them in all shapes and sizes, so I can have a longlasting commitment with a TS. I can love her cause I can percieve her as a woman. Will you be so polite to anwer my questions about the trio with girls as well? For that matter lets hear it all. Do you respect gay people? Do you think transsexuality is a mental disease? Do you respect RS preference? Do you respect freedom of choice? Let's see....

crazyml -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/6/2012 12:34:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jaquin quote: ORIGINAL: OttersSwim Open and out trans people can have a really hard time finding work to - so there can be a decided financial cost as well. It took me till a few months ago to get my first lasting job. Previous attempts killed my confidence and drive to bother when I was turned down, multiple times, after the interview stage. Word filtered to me that it was casuse nobody at the place wanted to work with a tg. I'm not saying I should have given up, but at the time I just wanted to hide. (on mobile device atm can post more detail later if needed) <tips hat> Fair play to you for sticking at it, and I really hope that your current gig works out really well.

crazyml -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/6/2012 12:37:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrBukani Mods dont touch this pretty please cause it is important to see what NS really thinks. Its such a shame when posts are deleted, because it creates a very distorted picture of the poster who has had his or her posts removed.

MrBukani -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/6/2012 12:41:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JanahX that whole post made me glad. I am guessing you are on the side of NS? Edit To answer the peoplepleasing statement, if you read my profile you will see I do not like people in general. Once the majority has liberated their minds and speak up I will change that stance. I do like the truth, the absolute truth, if you please. To RS that last post of the lesbian turning FtM was fuckin funny.[:D] I always thought it was funny people would love something done to them wich they hate doing themselves. Like suckin your DICK. Cats and dogs can lick their own and we always have a laugh about the selfconfronting images.

hausboy -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/6/2012 6:12:42 PM)
RS: thank you again for telling it like it is--and for posting positive things, unless the bile that those other posters seem bent on typing. It was a hot post, with plenty of positives. What a shame that certain posters feel the need to share their bigotry and ugliness. you know, I've been thinking a lot about when and why I tell certain people, and for me, it allows me to be myself, share myself with someone and makes the bond closer. So if it is someone that I really like, I want to share my past with them so that I can feel comfortable. The people I've told almost always told me that they felt really trusted and honored that I shared my past with them. I tell who I want, when I want..why I want to, and I don't really care if someone has a problem with that.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Beating a transsexual's ass (2/6/2012 6:40:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist I don't think you understand. The SRS, when done well, is very hard to detect. It's not like they are just passable ... they are hot as hell. We are talking about a construct, not a random act of nature. They had their pussy, tits, ass and face designed by a plastic surgeon. I think it's absolutely amazing what reconstructive surgery can accomplish nowadays. Some of the TSs I've seen on documentaries have been stunning (I have no idea if I have ever met either an M2F or F2M before; if I have, I didn't know it). Personally, I'm the opposite of longhairpickid. If I really got into someone, I'd have a Spock reaction: "Fascinating." I'd be curious about her psyche, and maybe a bit about the plumbing, but I wouldn't be turned off. I don't grok NS's attitude/bigotry any more than I grok religious fundies or teabagger conservatives or racists.

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