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farglebargle -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 5:06:23 AM)

Nah... It's more like GRR ARRGH. He got burned when David Frum tossed all the Paleo-cons out of the party for objection to the Iraq War, and has been struggling to reconcile his long-held beliefs with the facts on the ground now that the Republican Party is pandering to the crazies.



BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 5:31:54 AM)

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Nah... It's more like GRR ARRGH. He got burned when David Frum tossed all the Paleo-cons out of the party for objection to the Iraq War, and has been struggling to reconcile his long-held beliefs with the facts on the ground now that the Republican Party is pandering to the crazies.


good times, good times. just think if william buckley and his frumpled suits and frumpled french and mangled latin and rictus grin had never fallen from grace for calling the iraq war crazy, mittens could have claimed the blackford oakes spy novels were his favorite book. of course it would be hard to pick out just one, but "marco polo if you can" seems up his alley.




Moonhead -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 5:47:40 AM)

Heh.



SternSkipper -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 8:00:09 AM)

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good times, good times. just think if william buckley and his frumpled suits and frumpled french and mangled latin and rictus grin had never fallen from grace for calling the iraq war crazy, mittens could have claimed the blackford oakes spy novels were his favorite book. of course it would be hard to pick out just one, but "marco polo if you can" seems up his alley.


My favorite WF Buckley story was when he was on Dick Cavett in the early 70s and he claimed he had tried marijuana, but that he did so on his yacht comfortably outside US territorial waters.




kdsub -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 9:19:05 AM)

There is no sense deriding someone for their reading tastes…they change over the years by whim. None of us likes all the same authors….or the same authors all the time.

Just because you asked nicely…lol… Below are some of my favorites off the top of me so called head…feel free to criticize.

Asimov
Wells
Crichton
Herinlein
Bradbury
Adams
Card

Butch



Marc2b -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 12:11:20 PM)

I was sixteen when the book came out and bought it and read it because it looked interesting.  I had never heard of L. Ron Hubbard or Scientology and so had no preconceptions about the book other that it was obviously meant to be the literary equivalent of a popcorn movie (the main character's name is Johnny Goodboy Taylor for cripes sake).  So I delved right in and... well... truth be told, I enjoyed it.  Yeah it was windy in a few places but I was already used to that from the Gor novels.  Overall it was simply an action packed sci-fi story.  I didn't dicern any hidden messages or the like.  I later tried other Hubbard books but couldn't really get into them and by then I was getting wise to Scientology anyway.

The movie was excrement.



Moonhead -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 12:21:37 PM)

The book wasn't any better, though.
If it had been published before the '40s, the sub pulp whackiness would have been acceptable, but for something that emerged in the mid '80s, it's risible. Nobody expects all of the science in an SF novel to work (we're losing anything involving ftl travel and the whole of Alfred Bester just for a start if we go getting purist about that), but it's nice when somebody has enough of a clue to keep the bollocks they've made up separate from the other stuff, rather than (say) having somebody use electrolysis to remove a bullet from a wound by poking it with a wire and running a current through it, or a vapourised nuke that's just been blown up by another nuke sitting next to it going off still work. It reads like AE Van Vogt with brain damage.

(Still, things could be even worse: Mittens might have named something by Orson Scott Card. His more tiresome efforts are very Mormon indeed...)



popeye1250 -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 1:16:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Now if Mitt likes "science fiction" then surely he's read; "Earth in the Balance" by..........Al Gore!


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He's playing here all weeks, folks!

It's amazing, but a truth that so many people have no sense of humor here on the boards.

Firm




Firm, do you think we could be walking down the street one day in a city or town and get accosted by one of L.Ron Gore's soldiers wanting us to take a.... "personality test?"
"Hey, ...this says the earth's temperature is rising!" They're full of shit!" It is not!"
"***YES the Fuck it IS!*** Now,......finish the god damn test!"
"Your "compatability rating" is going down fast Mister!"
"Hey,....why so many pictures on the walls of L. Ron Gore?"
"DO NOT speak ill about the Lord,...er,....I mean L.Ron Gore!"
"Hooooh, Hooooh, ...it says on the bottom of this test that you want all my money and credit cards???"
"One hundred foot yachts and $6 million dollar mansions on the shore don't come cheap my brother!"
"To mention nothing of the dime-a- fuck burlesque queenies he likes to play "Porn Star" with in strange hotel rooms!"
"SECURITY! Cast this NON-BELIEVER out the door on his non-believing ass!"
"Hey! Where's my wallet?"



BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 1:18:30 PM)

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My favorite WF Buckley story was when he was on Dick Cavett in the early 70s and he claimed he had tried marijuana, but that he did so on his yacht comfortably outside US territorial waters.


hmmm yes er um quite it, dick it uh, of course now eventually heliogabalus set up his, ahhh, bull outside the narrow confines of rome in the more more errr of course a liberal might say "egalitarian" heh heh heh the er, pluralistic, as it were land of some patricians in the countryside and there that great man continued his hurr hurr outre' entertainments vis a vis brass bulls and slave boys and i uh, also wishing to respect the laws of my native land as is dulce est decorum est and yet also wishing to be, errrr, stoned as a goat, har har, so to speak have upon occasion climbed upon my yacht and indulged in dallied in really a drug or two there in international waters....



SternSkipper -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 1:27:20 PM)

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hmmm yes er um quite it, dick it uh, of course now eventually heliogabalus set up his, ahhh, bull outside the narrow confines of rome in the more more errr of course a liberal might say "egalitarian" heh heh heh the er, pluralistic, as it were land of some patricians in the countryside and there that great man continued his hurr hurr outre' entertainments vis a vis brass bulls and slave boys and i uh, also wishing to respect the laws of my native land as is dulce est decorum est and yet also wishing to be, errrr, stoned as a goat, har har, so to speak have upon occasion climbed upon my yacht and indulged in dallied in really a drug or two there in international waters....


Yep, that's vaguely what he sounded like... only more nasal[:D]



SternSkipper -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 2:45:45 PM)

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Firm, do you think we could be walking down the street one day in a city or town and get accosted by one of L.Ron Gore's soldiers wanting us to take a.... "personality test?"


Okay... now I am gonna call you on your bullshitting. Show me a credible source linking Gore to L. Ron Hubbard.

And as always.... Take your time...
It's HalfTime
In
America



Winterapple -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 5:01:47 PM)

FR
That Mitt can't see the irony of this choice is sort of
endearing. And the disclaimer on the authors religon,
classic.
At least it's a truthful response, no group of advisors
would have suggested it to him.
I've never been able to read anything of Hubbard's
all the way through including Dune which is
suppose to be his "best".
The movie of Battlefield has a few scant moments
of camp pleasure. Mostly provided by Travolta in
what was apparently a pet project on his part.
He doesn't claim it as his favorite book. He gives
that honor to Airport by Arthur Hailey. Ah, the
classics.
Orson Scott Card is a Mormon isn't he?
That Twilight chick, Stephanie Meyers is to.
Not to hold that against them. I'd dislike
Meyers books regardless and I've liked several
or some of Cards.
Think Clinton said One Hundred Years of Solitude
was his favorite book. Just sayin.



BoxwineForBrunch -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 5:33:25 PM)

herbert wrote dune, not hubbard. :D i haven't read sci fi since i was like 16, and have never read dune, but i saw the train wreck of a movie because lynch directed it.

marquez is not my favorite 20th century writer by a long shot, but given the choice between having a beer with a dude who reads marquez and one who reads l ron hubbard's sci fi non-ironically i know which one i'd choose. note: i loathe both of their politics.



FirmhandKY -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 5:39:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Firm, do you think we could be walking down the street one day in a city or town and get accosted by one of L.Ron Gore's soldiers wanting us to take a.... "personality test?"


Okay... now I am gonna call you on your bullshitting. Show me a credible source linking Gore to L. Ron Hubbard.

And as always.... Take your time...

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Firm



SternSkipper -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/9/2012 5:57:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Firm, do you think we could be walking down the street one day in a city or town and get accosted by one of L.Ron Gore's soldiers wanting us to take a.... "personality test?"



Okay... now I am gonna call you on your bullshitting. Show me a credible source linking Gore to L. Ron Hubbard.

And as always.... Take your time...


Missing picture of cat playing "Operation"



That's a funny picture ... how's the quest to gas up the gremlin going[:D]



popeye1250 -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/10/2012 1:18:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:


Firm, do you think we could be walking down the street one day in a city or town and get accosted by one of L.Ron Gore's soldiers wanting us to take a.... "personality test?"


Okay... now I am gonna call you on your bullshitting. Show me a credible source linking Gore to L. Ron Hubbard.

And as always.... Take your time...
It's HalfTime
In
America




Stern, you're kidding, right?
L Ron Hubbards' father and L Ron Gore's father were cousins.
It's in the book! Did you bother to read it?



Marc2b -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/10/2012 6:47:07 AM)

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The book wasn't any better, though.
If it had been published before the '40s, the sub pulp whackiness would have been acceptable, but for something that emerged in the mid '80s, it's risible.


That is how I took it, though... as a throwback to earlier sci-fi.  I cannot emphasise this enough: the main charectar's name is Johnny Goodboy Taylor... you can't get much more pulpy than that.



Marc2b -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/10/2012 6:51:38 AM)

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herbert wrote dune, not hubbard. :D i haven't read sci fi since i was like 16, and have never read dune, but i saw the train wreck of a movie because lynch directed it.


I could lynch Lynch for what he did to the greatest sci-fi novel of all time.  Dune is on my list of books that I think everyone should read and occasionally re-read.

Read Dune... you won't regret it.




SternSkipper -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/10/2012 7:11:02 AM)

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There is no sense deriding someone for their reading tastes…they change over the years by whim. None of us likes all the same authors….or the same authors all the time.

Just because you asked nicely…lol… Below are some of my favorites off the top of me so called head…feel free to criticize.

Asimov
Wells
Crichton
Herinlein
Bradbury
Adams
Card

Butch


Butch, I never had any intention of criticizing you in any way about what scifi you read. I just wanted to know for myself you knew the difference between say something like "Childhood's End" or  "Fahrenheit 451" and that crap. I'm satisfied.
   And if it makes you feel any better, I will freely admit that I read the original Star Wars screenplay transposition and loved it and that was total pulp.




SternSkipper -> RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ron hubbard (2/10/2012 7:13:35 AM)

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I was sixteen when the book came out and bought it and read it because it looked interesting. I had never heard of L. Ron Hubbard or Scientology and so had no preconceptions


Whew, when I read this first part I was like "Of boy, here we go. We're gonna hear how Marc lost his virginity." Thank god it was just a survey.




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