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RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ro... - 2/10/2012 7:29:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The story behind the origins of scientology, despite much protest otherwise, involves an irate, intoxicated wager about 30-something years ago, between Hubbard, Heinlein, and perhaps several other co-incendient rabble-rousers, about whether or not a cult 'religion' could be started from scratch by somebody who had really had no 'spiritual' intentions.

Who do you think won the bet? ...

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RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ro... - 2/10/2012 3:06:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		my favorite elron trivia is that he stole jack parsons' lover out from under him. given that parsons was a supragenius and all around mega-stud this was an impressive charisma check for hubbard who even on his best day looked like a weedy little dipshit.

what he lacked in writing skills, sanity, and basic human decency hubbard apparently covered for with interest in his ability to purely manipulate people.
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ORIGINAL: SilverBoat

The story behind the origins of scientology, despite much protest otherwise, involves an irate, intoxicated wager about 30-something years ago, between Hubbard, Heinlein, and perhaps several other co-incendient rabble-rousers, about whether or not a cult 'religion' could be started from scratch by somebody who had really had no 'spiritual' intentions.

Who do you think won the bet? ...

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RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ro... - 2/11/2012 5:55:45 AM   
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The book wasn't any better, though.
If it had been published before the '40s, the sub pulp whackiness would have been acceptable, but for something that emerged in the mid '80s, it's risible.


That is how I took it, though... as a throwback to earlier sci-fi.  I cannot emphasise this enough: the main charectar's name is Johnny Goodboy Taylor... you can't get much more pulpy than that.

You can, actually: Cornell Woolrich, Dashiel Hammett, Robert E Howard, HP Lovecraft, Raymond Chandler, Ray Bradbury, Jack Williamson and Alfred Bester all published most or all of their early work in the pulps. The whole "pulp has lower standards" argument is bullshit. It's only writers who couldn't be arsed making any effort with their work who settled for churning out mind numbing shit in any magazine format.


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RE: romney's favorite book is battlefield earth by l ro... - 2/11/2012 5:59:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SilverBoat

The story behind the origins of scientology, despite much protest otherwise, involves an irate, intoxicated wager about 30-something years ago, between Hubbard, Heinlein, and perhaps several other co-incendient rabble-rousers, about whether or not a cult 'religion' could be started from scratch by somebody who had really had no 'spiritual' intentions.

Who do you think won the bet? ...

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If those were the facts, Heinlein certainly did a good job of revitalising Ayn Rand's libertarian cult. (Amusingly, Isaac Asimov blames Heinlein's politics on his second wife.) I think this might be a misremembering of Hubbard telling a bunch of other hacks that he could make far more money by forming a cult than he could writing fiction, though...


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