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Training Method - 2/11/2012 3:05:22 AM   
MrBukani


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I would like to know what is your favorite training method and how you build it up a bit.

And to answer a request I would like links to good threads explaining topping from the bottom.

Thanks in advance. Hope this posted in the proper section
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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 3:13:31 AM   
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He told me how he liked things done and what was expected of me.
How he liked his coffee, etc.
And I do it that way.
Really quite simple.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 3:23:04 AM   
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Thank you Aileen,is there some kind of training you specially enjoyed? Like your ATM underline perhaps?

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 3:28:32 AM   
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I don't classify anything as "training".
I view it as doing things the way he likes for no other reason than he's important to me and it becomes important to do things as he's requested.
We don't do any kind of protocol.
What does ATM have anything to do with training?

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 3:48:15 AM   
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Like deeptroating can be trained maybe there is something just like that for ATM I can imagine.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 3:55:56 AM   
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The different ways we fuck are just that. Different ways to fuck.
There's no training involved.
I'm in a relationship not a job that I have to be trained on how to express my love for him.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 4:03:50 AM   
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Thanks for sharing your personal experience.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 4:32:12 AM   
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As a self proclaimed Pro at topping from the bottom, it isn't always a good thing and isn't something to be encouraged, unless you like a challenge. Topping From The Bottom usually indicates a displinary issue which should be addressed, you would need to find out why the person is doing it. Are they doing it because they like punishment? if so then you might need to change the way you punish them, if you punish them by spanking them and they deliberately get into trouble by doing that then your encouraging the behaviour, in order to stop this behavior use spanking as a reward as with any activity if they disobey to get a certain reaction then you need to show them that it will not be tolerated, instead of spanking them as they would prefer put them in the corner or have them put their nose up against a door for a certain amount of time (this worked wonders for me as I hated doing it and reminded me that that sort of behaviour would have a negative consequence)

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 4:40:49 AM   
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He said "light cream, not half and half" and voila, I was trained.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 5:05:01 AM   
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Did you read the other training thread in Ask a Master? "Training" as a concept seems to get people's hackles up. So your question my get lost in regurges of what people said over in that thread.

If you're trying to teach someone something, you'd be wise to pick a method that will be useful for the student. If you're asking people to share kinky sex "training" stories (like your ATM comment to Aileen suggests), then this is likely to be seen as a wank fodder post. Okies?

So what are you really asking?

When I was, say, learning to make my former's bed, he had all these little quirks and details about it. A helpful way for me to learn was a hands-on method, that workeed the process into muscle memory. Then, if I forgot something, i'd "feel weird" and back track to fix it. He explained by doing it with me the first time, then letting me do it while he talked through the steps, and then letting me do it on my own. He understood that process thinngs like that stick the best for me with hands-on learning.

When it came to correcting my tendency towards self-deprecating statements, that came with consistent reinforcement of the rule, and the "punishment" of the disappointment of letting a bad habit get inn the way of making him happy. He expressed how much he hated to hear it, so I was mindful, and broke the habit.

Teaching and correcting work the best when a teacher is consistent, and really understands the best way to affect real learning in the student. Everyone learns differently, so it's impotant to not be too attached to one particular method if it doesn't work.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 7:04:20 AM   
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As mentioned... there was another training thread not too long ago.. and I stayed away from it.. as it doesn't make any sense to me to ask about 'training' as a generic concept...

so what are you really trying to get to? punishment? how to develop a relationship? how to present your plan?

frankly, its a relationship... not a 'training' situation... start slow and ratchet up... figure out, well in advance, what you want -- what you want in the relationship.. and teach, foster understanding and obedience... and above all else talk...

these are basics.. and really, in many ways.. they're basics in all relationships... we just do the 'getting to know you' part a bit different from the vanilla...

is there really something else you're looking for?

as far as topping from the bottom -- it takes different forms.. there are people who push back -- some folks like that.. I don't... submit or don't... its simple for me.. I won't fight it...

the other form -- is perhaps more pernicious -- manipulative.. in order to feign a type of relationship, but to get it, from the bottom the way the bottom wants it.. not the way the Dominant does...

that's my take...

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 7:16:38 AM   
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I learn you, you learn me, you do what I say and I listen to what you say and consider it. Moment by moment... we work out our lives together. Trained...

Are we having fun yet? Oh yes... we are... All good!


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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 7:26:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

He said "light cream, not half and half" and voila, I was trained.


Same here...and if I didn't get it right he said, "This isn't right. Go do it again."


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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 7:30:52 AM   
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3 simple steps for training
1-Be firm
2-(And this is hugehugehuge) Be consistent
3-Never fail to recognize good behavior. Positive reinforcement works much better than does negative. That's why I carry around a pocket full of dog treats for her :-)

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 7:55:51 AM   
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I would love a link to a thread, thank you for the insightfull info.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 8:02:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

He said "light cream, not half and half" and voila, I was trained.


Same here...and if I didn't get it right he said, "This isn't right. Go do it again."



YEP!

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 8:15:57 AM   
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its fairly simple... go to a discussion area... and then search.. I'd suggest you search training... and my guess is, each and every thread will have a ton of stuff...

have you nver searched here?

its kinda like google but different, and oh, you could likely do it in google too... but add the bdsm to it

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 8:29:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Madame4a

its fairly simple... go to a discussion area... and then search.. I'd suggest you search training... and my guess is, each and every thread will have a ton of stuff...

have you nver searched here?

its kinda like google but different, and oh, you could likely do it in google too... but add the bdsm to it

Thank you Madame4a, I was just lookin for the best one without havin to read through every thread.

Maybe I dont make myself clear.
I like to train my sub without her even knowing I train her.
Thats a method.
That was my first question my second is a link please if you will.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 8:43:28 AM   
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I like Lilly's answer that's a method.

When something doesnt work change the subject.

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RE: Training Method - 2/11/2012 3:08:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Maybe I dont make myself clear.
I like to train my sub without her even knowing I train her.
Thats a method.


You want to train your sub without her knowledge? I mean, I guess you could try, I don't know, subliminal messaging or playing her a tape while she's asleep, but somehow I don't think that stuff really works. Why not just tell her what to do?

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