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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 11:18:04 AM   
slaverosebeauty


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Status: offline 		Why do you think I started BOS; I was tired of trolls, so I started 'fighting back.' I have not had trollmail in days, I have plenty of them from before posted and have been working on a few more since I have not had any new ones, so the ones I was saving will have to go up this weekend.
trolls are meant to be exposed and squished. I do my part.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 11:58:03 AM   
MistressOfGa


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ORIGINAL: NCSilverWolves

Alot have made comments of looking on line is not the way to meet what you seek. Other say meeting on line is great if you get to meet soon. Other shit is said too.... just not enough caffine in system to think of more of them. Bottom line is ....do what feels good to you and yours. Sense coming on CM, I too have been accused of being a fake, wanna be... whatever the hell else. Just because someone in a far off state and or country doesn't get to met meet when they're good and ready. Forget about if I'm ready to or not. Because I won't yank my kids outta school and travel X amount of miles to go meet either. There are people on here looking.... and not looking... enjoying meeting and talking.

Now I agree with the statement that ..... that is all fine and dandy as long as they don't try to play up that they're interested and  play the stupid game. I've fell victim to the same childish games from a few local doms here on CM. All talk on the internet, but when meeting comes about..... I can't today... or this weekend... because(state whatever reason here). And that's after they bring up the subject of meeting. I do not ask for meetings.

It took over 5 months to meet with Wolf last weekend. And he lives about a 2 hour drive from me. (Mainly because I didn't feel it was time or family matters interfered) But he was and is patient. He's happy... i'm happy.. that's what it was all about to begin with. So sit back... enjoy the ride... it will happen... when it's suppose to happen. 

Jessica is this you?

Edit to add: Nevermind, I read your whole profile and journal. Glad to see you are happy with your new Master.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 12:23:54 PM   
CrappyDom


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Your "BOS" tells far more about you than your respondents and I notice you still haven't listed me on it as I asked.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 1:14:37 PM   
champagnewishes


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quote:

ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Why do you think I started BOS; I was tired of trolls, so I started 'fighting back.' I have not had trollmail in days, I have plenty of them from before posted and have been working on a few more since I have not had any new ones, so the ones I was saving will have to go up this weekend.
trolls are meant to be exposed and squished. I do my part.


After skimming through your BOS...I am not so sure this is effectively accomplishing your desire to stamp out those you determine trolls....if this is indeed your motive. 

I must say one thing though, you are passionate about it...   

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 1:28:27 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		I have also read through her blog, and I found it quite perplexing, especially the animosity towards those who contacted her that had different lifestyle choices than herself. I would not call all couples that contacted me trolls for example... just people trying to find what they are looking for... I was quite perplexed indeed at what some people consider "trolling".

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 2:22:41 PM   
Skuggi


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Status: offline 		Hi there all.

I don't know why some people say they are ready to take the plunge and then change their mind, but I do know that in our search (mine and BitchQueen) we have only found very honest, open minded submissives that we very much respect for their honesty.
We have seen people (dom) that have been talking to submissive/slave persons that suddenly have disappeared.
I guess it always good to be honest and ask for honesty.
Guess some people find out that their fantasy is too serious for them to handle at the time and so they step away.

But I hope it starts to become brighter for you guys.

Sincerly,
Skuggi

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 3:12:32 PM   
OedipusRexIt


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quote:

ORIGINAL: pinkee

This type of Op is almost a rite of passage on the boards.


I agree with Pinkee.  Who didn't think we arrived here at this site at last among our people, only to find out there were the usual hordes of ordinary people here as well...?

They're everywhere, the phonies and players and wannabes.  Maybe the interenet makes it more apparent, but there lurking all about nonetheless.

There's a saying :  to find a prince, you have to kiss a few frogs.

Paraphrase that to suit you, but life is something of a numbers game, and you can't win if you don't play.

.... hows that for a load of cliches?

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 3:14:25 PM   
genvieve


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Status: offline 		Consider the possibility that the people you are dealing with may not be fake at all...but may actually have no idea what the lifestyle is about.  Again, i'm going to blame it on the media...
 
The fact remains that the majority of neophites in this lifestyle enter it for the kink and the kink alone.  They think this isn't real.  They don't understand. 
 
While i can certainly sympathize with your woes... hang in there... it'll happen, it really will.  Maybe it will happen online, adn maybe it will happen in the local scene.  It all depends.   Just keep your options open.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 3:33:11 PM   
Dustyn


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Status: offline 		Now it might just be me, but I get the feeling that the term 'player", or any o the other myriad of names people toss about like so much dust in a windstorm, is more of a knee jerk reaction than anything else.

"Well, you are as 'dedicated' as I am, so obviously you are just playing some kind of a game."

Now granted, I have known some that play AT being dominant or submissive, but I know people that play at being cooks or artists.  Are they wannabe Wolfgang Pucks and wannabe Ruth Thompsons?  No, they are just dabbling, which there is nothing wrong with in the least.  Throwing a fishing line into a puddle and expecting to land a 15 pound catfish is a bit on the brain dead side of life, and expecting the same out of a dabbler is just as brain dead, if not a bit more.

Take what people give you and move on with it.


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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 3:35:04 PM   
Tikkiee


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The fact remains that the majority of neophites in this lifestyle enter it for the kink and the kink alone.  They think this isn't real.  They don't understand

I would have to disagree. I know a great many who enter for the kink only, and yet, have a better understanding of what D/s entails.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 4:04:35 PM   
KnightofMists


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Status: offline 		welcome to the reality of the online environment.  But, honestly do you think that the time you spend online surfing thought the shit is any greater than the time you spend in face to face environment.  It's just that in the online... you have more numbers to sift through.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 4:49:15 PM   
CrappyDom


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Status: offline 		Here is how it works...

When I am in a room with other dominates...and a hot yungin walks in...I explain to her how those others are all players, wannabees, not true dominates, and other sad truths.  I then explain to her the depth of my natural dominanc and how if she is a real submissive and not a wannabee, she will recognize my greatness and get on her knees.

I mean the only other way would be chaos.  I mean imagine having to sort out those who not only seem interesting and put up a good show but actually are a unique match to your unique needs.  Wasting time getting to know people, seeing how they interact with others, what their reputation is, and other time consuming and hella boring shit like that.  Screw that, my way is MUCH easier and faster and I score a hell of a lot more often.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 4:52:27 PM   
feastie


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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Here is how it works...

When I am in a room with other dominates...and a hot yungin walks in...I explain to her how those others are all players, wannabees, not true dominates, and other sad truths.  I then explain to her the depth of my natural dominanc and how if she is a real submissive and not a wannabee, she will recognize my greatness and get on her knees.

I mean the only other way would be chaos.  I mean imagine having to sort out those who not only seem interesting and put up a good show but actually are a unique match to your unique needs.  Wasting time getting to know people, seeing how they interact with others, what their reputation is, and other time consuming and hella boring shit like that.  Screw that, my way is MUCH easier and faster and I score a hell of a lot more often.


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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 4:57:20 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: Tikkiee

If you truly seek to find someone to join your family, then you need to get off the computer and get going in REAL LIFE. I find it quite humorous that so many look for honesty on a computer screen, and then complain when pixels turn out to be not what they expected. 
 


I have met several people from online.  Some worked out, some didnt.  The filtering process was tedious and fraught with disappointment.

But when I was actively seeking somebody in my life (it has been a while) I logged off and took up dancing.

On the other hand, I met somebody (yes, I did meet somebody in real life that I met online) recently I have high hopes of building a relationship with.

Hey, it could happen.

There is almost as little effort expended making an online profile as there is in perusing online profiles.  Couple that with (my opinion here) most people's inability to really truthfully observe who and what they are, as well as their motivations, and I am almost shocked when anything that starts online works out.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 5:00:08 PM   
Sinergy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Here is how it works...

When I am in a room with other dominates...



If the dominates would stop looking for submits and try to approach submissives they may have better luck.

You do understand that "dominate" is a verb and "Dominant" is a noun or adjective.

Sinergy

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 5:28:21 PM   
OedipusRexIt


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quote:

ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Here is how it works...

When I am in a room with other dominates...




Pet peeve here:  "Dominate" is a verb, not a noun.  A "Dominant" dominates...



.....oops, Syn beat me to that point,,,

< Message edited by OedipusRexIt -- 6/2/2006 5:29:33 PM >

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 7:39:44 PM   
ExistentialSteel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

quote:

ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Here is how it works...

When I am in a room with other dominates...




Pet peeve here:  "Dominate" is a verb, not a noun.  A "Dominant" dominates...



.....oops, Syn beat me to that point,,,


LOL...Crappy was kidding and using a bit of sarcasm, I do believe.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 7:47:34 PM   
mnottertail


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  • nah..........fuck it........
some kid tells you they can devine players from real people...............LOL...........

let's trot around your life a little, young 'un!

First of all, there is no pope of perversion...regardless of what google says... and if there is he stole it from a qoute by Rinella


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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 8:36:47 PM   
objectivist


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Status: offline 		Ah yes.  Fakes, flakes, posers, fools, and the clueless masses.  Reminds me when I was one of them too, and had not a wonderful pair of Dommes taken me under their wings, (Meade and Amber, thanks) I would have likely remained so for much longer.
I would have to say from my own experience and that of friends, that your results depend a lot on your expectations, and what you are willing to settle for.  And also, how you define what makes for real or not.
Best girl I ever had, might have called me "Master" half a dozen times in the year we had.  Many commented on how well she was trained, some would have considered me a poser for not making a demand of that form of address.
I stress the practice of respect and obedience over the form.  In over ten years, I've been stood up for a meet twice.  And I honestly can't say that any I've met have been posers, even though few had like enough interests that anything beyond meeting for coffee or a meal, was planned.

And then, I knew a guy who killed himself rather than suffer through the pain of encountering another lair and not his one true love.  His heart crushed, his noble spirit unloved by another, his weary soul unable to face the chance of another fake breaking his heart.     
Of course, when I mentioned to him that I knew of a very good girl that I was sure would share many of his interests, he recalled that he had seen her before and said of one of my favorite people in the world; "Do you know anybody GOOD looking?"  This for her being 20 pounds overweight.   Right there, I'd have bought him rope and tied the knots.
Because his requirements where SO high and unrealistic, the only thing he attracted was those who wanted to role play an ideal.
I can't say I ever met a fake.  I would not be surprised if he never met anybody real.

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RE: So many players - 6/2/2006 8:37:49 PM   
mgdartist


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Status: offline 		how fitting that this post ended with a trite little argument on grammar and semantics. Call me old fashioned, and say i dont understand the "lifestyle", but a big reason bdsm is getting a bad name could be because older couples who should know better are actively seeking some human playtoys on sites  such as this. Personally, i could care less and wish them luck, albeit i'd really rather not hear them complain. But conversely, I know lots of folks in the vanilla world who'd take large exception to such conduct, and it's only too common here. I'm not here to judge anyone, nor should they be. I got tired of the stigma of being what i am, and at some point, stopped giving a shit what vanilla folks thought of me, but i'm still willing to see how it could be construed as a character flaw once im backed into a corner. begrudgingly.
I'd presume its a somewhat similar sentiment from those they are calling "players". And if there's one thing I've noticed since i started this here and elswhere...the mud does tend to fly. Especially the accusatory insertion of "not a real_________"<---(insert whatever role/kink you suspect them of faking here.)
i still can't quite figure out, with so much stigma involved, why anyone would wanna say how they were any of the normal roles here, if they in fact werent. Im sure there are reasons, and likely some do. but personally what i mostly see are those who seek to denegrate the others level of kink, or area of kink enjoyment, since it may not match their own, and far be it from them to consider adjusting or adapting to the other persons level, even tho they may be a professed submissive in the relationship. Then of course they are quite incensed when confronted with why it just didnt sit well. much easier to be judgemental, call them fake, player or question their integrity.
Such rationale often improves my mood and rejuvenates my self-esteem too, not to mention its so very much fun..
lol


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