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kitkat105 -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 3:41:59 PM)

You could also fall on your ass crossing the street and damage your coccyx. Or cause a flare up of sciatica.

Are you going to stop walking, too?



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 5:08:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Daddynvrfeltsogd

That in the advertisement for the collarme bdsm  movies where the lady is spanking the other lady with her hand and a paddle and a cane, that she's doing it wrong?  She's taking a stiff object (paddle and cane) and slapping directly across both cheeks.  sometimes she only strikes one cheek (with the paddle), which is safe, but using an unyielding object like the cane or paddle across both cheeks causes the shock to travel directly up the spine and also can cause microfractures to the cochlea.  Sciatic nerves anyone?

Just thought it odd that a website devoted to fetishes should advertise with a video showing an unsafe method.



I think you should write them a very long letter expressing your concerns.



Daddynvrfeltsogd -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 5:38:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

You could also fall on your ass crossing the street and damage your coccyx. Or cause a flare up of sciatica.

Are you going to stop walking, too?
No, because I don't fall on my ass ON PURPOSE.  These people are doing what they're doing on purpose.  They should do it right or don't do it at all.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 5:39:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Daddynvrfeltsogd

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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

You could also fall on your ass crossing the street and damage your coccyx. Or cause a flare up of sciatica.

Are you going to stop walking, too?
No, because I don't fall on my ass ON PURPOSE.  These people are doing what they're doing on purpose.  They should do it right or don't do it at all.



Pen......and paper.



Daddynvrfeltsogd -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 5:41:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef


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ORIGINAL: Daddynvrfeltsogd

And for those who doubt me about the dangers of using an unyielding paddle or cane across both cheeks, ask DaddyMcSpanks, he actually does instructional classes on spanking and he'll tell you the same thing.  Not that I'd know how you'd reach DaddyMcSpanks, lol, so I guess you'll have to take my word for it.

No, we don't.

When you or DaddyWanks comes up with some substantiated data on the matter, feel free to resume your Chicken Little act. Until then I think the sky is in little danger of falling.

Wow, rude much?  And ignorant too because I've just informed you of something that's patently true, not "Chicken Little".  Think about it, if it doesn't hurt you too much to do so:  A direct strike across the cheeks directs the full force straight up the spine.  You don't have to hit the coccyx to cause microfractures in it.

But hey, go right ahead.  I was only pointing out that the ad for bdsm movies on collarme showed people doing it wrong and you're right, you don't have to believe me.  Your problem, not mine.



strangedesire -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 6:05:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daddynvrfeltsogd

Wow, rude much?  And ignorant too because I've just informed you of something that's patently true, not "Chicken Little".  Think about it, if it doesn't hurt you too much to do so:  A direct strike across the cheeks directs the full force straight up the spine.  You don't have to hit the coccyx to cause microfractures in it.


I looked up DaddyMcSpanks, actually. I could probably put you in touch, if you'd like to ask him about the sources of his information. He doesn't identify himself as a sex educator, much less someone who has been to medical school. He seems like a good guy, but he has no particular reputation as an educator. He's probably fine - again, he seems decent - but you really can't hold him up as a medical expert because he's taught classes on spanking.

Medical misinformation is really common in the community, actually.

I have literally never heard of an injury happening the way you describe. It's not impossible, I suppose, but it doesn't jive with my understanding of the way the body works. As someone who has been paddled (hard, by a pro athlete) and caned in the way that you're describing, I've never even felt any discomfort in my tailbone.

I have never encountered medical literature suggesting that the coccyx could be fractured by anything other that direct impact. If the literature is out there, I want to know about it. But it isn't enough for me to hear that some guy who taught a few spanking classes said that It Is So. I do my research and let myself and my bottoms make informed choices about potential risks. That's what responsibility means. The health of my partners is too important to trust unsupported, third-hand information.



littlewonder -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 6:25:15 PM)

heh...I just healed from a badly bruised tailbone from a fall down a flight of stairs. I do this at least once a year because I'm extremely clumsy. I've had sciatica from being pregnant. Guess what? I'm still alive and doing quite well with no ill side effects and I've been hit caned so hard in the past that I was bleeding and bruised and no tailbone problems. Even if it did happen, so what? I'll heal.

Now if you're the type that worries about getting hurt and having to take time to heal then don't do it, heed every single warning out there. I would just advice that type of person not to play with a sadist. <shrug>



stef -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/12/2012 6:27:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daddynvrfeltsogd

Wow, rude much?  And ignorant too because I've just informed you of something that's patently true, not "Chicken Little".

Are you just accepting the Spankmaster General's word on the matter or did he produce something other than his steadfast opinion in order to turn you into some pervy Paul Revere, riding through BDSM websites to save us all from the horrors inherent in dual-cheek spankings?

If you're going to run around calling something unsafe, it's a good plan to have some proof other than second-hand opinions from one nobody, repeated by another.



kalikshama -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/13/2012 8:55:04 AM)

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I was only pointing out that the ad for bdsm movies on collarme showed people doing it wrong


Thanks for your concern, but I would never play with anyone who learned his technique from porn, which is entertainment after all, not instructional.



GreedyTop -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/13/2012 10:36:43 AM)

*pats the OP on the head*

W.C. Fields: go away kid, ya bother me.



angelikaJ -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/13/2012 11:52:15 AM)

Anatomy Lesson (as I understand things):
Usually, most of the buttocks area is very well padded.
The fullest part is not near the coccyx and that area is where one is generally aiming for, unless it is the "sweet spot" and that is at the bottom of the buttocks.

I think as long as you stay away from the lower spine itself and there is padding that generally the whole causine spinal injury; microfracture thing just isn't much of a concern provided you know what you are doing.

Of course if you don't have padding, have a disease process that makes your bones more fragile or have a spinal issue then of course you would want the person caning or paddling you to be especially mindful if that is something you agree to.

Physical limits should always be discussed before negotiating play.




Hellion64 -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/13/2012 1:41:31 PM)

I can see if it's a lot of force behind the caning, but...not in the video.



stef -> RE: Anyone else ever notice (2/13/2012 1:45:30 PM)

I think the cane would have to be attached to the bumper of a car for it to have anything close to the effects in the Spanking Svengali's warning.



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