Aswad -> RE: Liz Trotta On Women Raped In Military: 'What Did They Expect?' (2/15/2012 4:04:42 AM)
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep Something violent and criminal is just part of what men are, and "what else would you expect" -- that's like saying "we already know they can't do any better," which is absolutely false and absolutely ridiculous. We can do better. Anyone claiming we can't, belongs in a collar or cell. But: it is actually a part of most of us. Anyone claiming it isn't, is probably either lacking in introspection, honesty, or masculinity. Also: women generally find that part attractive, unless they're dominantly wired or have had exposure to that part as it is when not restrained. Drunk women are more libido-driven and that increases the attraction, while reducing the ability to distinguish between men who control their cocks, and men controlled by their cocks. Still: most men and women are able to benefit from this trait, because most are able to deal with reality to some extent, even those who are unable to acknowledge it. As said elsewhere, codes and discipline are the difference between a soldier and an armed thug. An armed man with discipline and a code that doesn't permit rape is generally a woman's best friend. Armed thugs, on the other hand, are a danger to both men and women, and rape is likely to be on the list of potential risks faced by those around them. Obviously, it is in the best interest of any military, and any civilian leadership using a military, to make sure theirs consists of the former, and not the latter. It may be necessary for the military codes to differ significantly from the civilian ones, but that is not strictly a sex thing, as women in the military are also likely to grow in a different direction from what most civilians do. And it should not include allowing arbitrary attacks on one's own, as that is contrary to pretty much every productive concern in a military, and to their role in general. That said, I wonder if the simplest approach might be to have an official prostitute branch in the military. Volunteer basis, like anything else. Basic training, including self defense and how to deal with bad seeds. Inoculations and checkups, with compartmentalization and other epidemological concerns dealt with. The pay should be steady, reasonable, and not directly tied to encounters (ration cards?). Officers that have a lot of interpersonal skills and receive applicable medical training with an emphasis on psychology. Good education and career options for the future. Retirement benefits. The ability to qualify for special forces units that work undercover. From my experience with high class prostitutes, it seems quite possible to pursue a career in the field with no adverse outcome, except a certain cynicism about people that seems more like realism than any actual cynicism. The key point, like with the enlisted in the military, is to have decent screening and to have an emphasis on recruiting and retaining people who have other options and thus are in it on a voluntary basis instead of seeing it as their only way out of a difficult situation. In other words, don't recruit street worker prostitutes, but rather recruit middle class women who have what it takes to do sex, rather than having it, at will, or who are able to acquire that skill. That doesn't fix the existing problem, but it may be a band-aid for people you're keeping on as necessities, and can be useful in normalizing life for those in the service, as well as reducing exposure to local STDs. (I don't know about the USA, but Norwegian soldiers do use local prostitutes, who are sometimes so keen on foreign currency that their attempts at pushing their wares would be called rape if it were men doing it to women.) The intelligence and covert ops possibilities are also quite useful, which the USSR realized ages ago. Health, al-Aswad.
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