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tazzygirl -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 11:29:28 AM)

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I tend to interpret much of your posts as anti-male, but necessarily because you don't like men. It seems like you are laying more responsibility on men to make up for the many who lay most of the responsibility on women. Your actions are just as wrong as theirs. Interestingly enough, we actually agree more than we disagree.


I could say I am sorry that you have that impression. But I would be lying.

I adore men. I adore the smell, the feel, the taste of men. I adore being at a man's feet and serving him. I adore being used by a man who knows how to use a woman. I adore everything about a man. Realize, I said man, not male.

My ultimate pleasure is kneeling at his feet, rubbing them after his long day and listening to anything and everything he wishes to say to me. The groans of his pleasure. The hungry snap in his eyes. The little boy grin when he gets a mischievous thought. How I worship men who are truly men.

However, this is not that kind of forum. This forum is about intellectual ideas and debates. There are a number of men on these political boards that I regard extremely highly. Master Ron is one. I would not dare to speak for them, but if I were dummy myself down to please other men, I believe I would feel their displeasure. And, for me, that just isnt worth the pleasure of men such as yourself. Yes, heresy, I know, but there it is.

The man in my life adores my quick wit, my intellect, my desire to understand and my ability to process information. And, as I am sure you understand, it is his pleasure that will come first.

So, with the knowledge that you believe I hate men, it is your opinion, and you are entitled to that opinion....however wrong it truly is.



BitaTruble -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 11:34:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I can imagine that a lot of the crazies would fall in line behind a movement which says, since they're irresponsible, we need to save them from themselves and prevent them from aborting another baby by taking away their ability to get pregnant.

As long as the crazies think of woman as their own private breeding stock, as evidenced by all their claims, how long do you think before this comes around?

World wide during the lifetime of a woman she will, on average, get one abortion. That means pretty much all women are to be sterlized at some point in their lives.

Who's gonna be baking the future humans in the womb oven if we're all sterilized after our one?

How many generations are we going to have left before there is a problem, Houston?

I'm guessing, not that many.




PeonForHer -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 12:12:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I think peon's point is one of the classical Taoist questions, isn't it?



Fuck off Beardie. Are you calling me fat?



tazzygirl -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 12:13:33 PM)

Comere baby, lemme feel those fat bumps. [;)]



PeonForHer -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 12:34:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Comere baby, lemme feel those fat bumps. [;)]


I don't have any fat bumps. I'm actually rather svelte and lissome, for the record.



tazzygirl -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 12:35:50 PM)

Well.. umm... cumere and lemme find that out for myself.



mnottertail -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 12:38:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

I think peon's point is one of the classical Taoist questions, isn't it?



Fuck off Beardie. Are you calling me fat?


I must say, I saw the potential in Moon a long time ago, but you my friend are becoming very Americanistically politically astute,  as a second language.

Let's the three of us hit a beer hall and have a good old American Political Symposium sometime....



DesideriScuri -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 12:55:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
If you notice, my post was not in reference to anything you said. I assure you, when I have an issue with one of your posts, you will be the first to know. [;)]



There was no reason for you to reference anything I posted. I assumed that your post was your opinion. I posted my opinions to show that not all men are as you opined. I never said you were wrong about me, specifically.

I tend to interpret much of your posts as anti-male, but necessarily because you don't like men. It seems like you are laying more responsibility on men to make up for the many who lay most of the responsibility on women. Your actions are just as wrong as theirs. Interestingly enough, we actually agree more than we disagree.

Biologically, I am a man, but I do not fit into the stereotype I interpreted your post as putting forth.


Okay, before ya'all get too up in arms, I made a simple error. No, it was not a test of any sort. I just fucked up. There was supposed to be a "not" before the "necessarily." Taking this into account, the next 3 sentences actually make sense. You were posting (in my interpretation) anti-male statements because you were making up for all those who blame women too much; not because you hate men. See how that flows better?

Yes, I admit, I fucked up the typing. It happens. I do not think you are a feminist of any sort, nor do I think you hate men. I don't know you well enough to be able to form that opinion. So, feel free to rail against my typo, but I stand behind my intent.



tazzygirl -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 3:22:40 PM)

You made a statement, I responded which was a natural result of the typo.

My statements that you look at as anti-male arent that at all. I post as a woman who knows a bit about the topics of reproductive health, especially among women.

So, because men dont
1) want to keep their cocks in their pants

Take a look through search to see how many men have stated that women should keep their thighs closed.

2) want to take responsibility on their own and get snipped,

But its ok to insist that a woman get physically or chemically castrated.

3) want to take responsibility for the outcome,

A quick search will show the number of men who complain about being "forced" to pay child support if the woman does not abort

4) want to allow women the right to abortion...

Been going on for a while.

These are not anto male statements, they are statements made in light of those provided by many men on these boards.



BenevolentM -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/20/2012 6:33:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

The hard, sad, truth is that freedom demands responsibility.



Careful where you go with that one. Someday, someone is going to argue that if, as an old person, you can't support yourself, you should pack yourself off to some hospital in order to be killed off in some orderly and civilised fashion.

After all, if we can talk about socially undesirable persons who shouldn't be alive at one end of the age spectrum, why not at the other end, too?


Did you see Soylent Green starring Charleston Heston? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green



thishereboi -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 4:23:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RealLady

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ORIGINAL: rockspider

Living in a country where abortion on demand has been the law since 1967 I can’t really see what all the fuss is about in USA. As I see it, it can only be the holy fascist, who under the guise of their narrow minded morality, wants everybody else to abide to their own particular code of conduct.
They haven’t changed much since they were leading the witch hunting and burning just a few centuries ago, or when they threatened scientist, with been burned at the stake, if they claimed the earth was round.



Thought it was 1973.



Yea that sounds about right. And in the 40 years since I have been hearing people tell me that if we dare elect a republican that will be overturned. Now we have elected a lot of repubs in that time and I don't remember any of them even getting close to having it overturned but I am sure one day it will happen. After all, that's what people keep telling me.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 5:18:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You made a statement, I responded which was a natural result of the typo.


Correct. I corrected my statement to end the responses to the typo. I am fully aware of why the responses were written as they were. That my intent had been so poorly interpreted by everyone responding to it made me go back and read what I wrote. That's when I found that the interpretations were correct, but my writing was in error.

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My statements that you look at as anti-male arent that at all. I post as a woman who knows a bit about the topics of reproductive health, especially among women.

So, because men dont
1) want to keep their cocks in their pants

Take a look through search to see how many men have stated that women should keep their thighs closed.

2) want to take responsibility on their own and get snipped,

But its ok to insist that a woman get physically or chemically castrated.

3) want to take responsibility for the outcome,

A quick search will show the number of men who complain about being "forced" to pay child support if the woman does not abort

4) want to allow women the right to abortion...

Been going on for a while.

These are not anto male statements, they are statements made in light of those provided by many men on these boards.


I disagree with your analysis of your statements. They are anti-male. Your statements were made in light of statements by men that were anti-female, but they were anti-male nonetheless. I understand why you made the statements, but they do not balance out the unbalanced statements they are in response to. They are just as wrong as the ones put out by many men. Would it not be better to make balanced statements? For instance, stating that men need to keep their willy's in their pants and women need to keep their legs closed, puts the onus on both.

If someone hadn't read the comments you were responding to, your statements would not be interpreted in the manner I believe you intended. I agree with the men who posted the their unbalanced comments, and with you and your unbalanced comments, provided they are taken together.

And, to be open and straightforward, I think you believe in the balancing the responsibility on both the males and the females.



kalikshama -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 5:23:31 AM)

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I disagree with your analysis of your statements. They are anti-male.


Pro responsibility /= anti male.



kalikshama -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 5:25:02 AM)

Who can dig up the male D state legislator who wanted to add a provision about male responsibility to one of these zygote rights bills which was then shot down?



Lucylastic -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 9:50:00 AM)

easy peasy Virginia State Senator Janet Howell
this is what was suggested....
To protest a bill that would require women to undergo an ultrasound before having an abortion, Virginia State Sen. Janet Howell (D-Fairfax) on Monday attached an amendment that would require men to have a rectal exam and a cardiac stress test before obtaining a prescription for erectile dysfunction medication.
“We need some gender equity here,” she told HuffPost. “The Virginia senate is about to pass a bill that will require a woman to have totally unnecessary medical procedure at their cost and inconvenience. If we’re going to do that to women, why not do that to men?”


Another senator Sen. Constance Johnson stated...and suggested
However, any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman’s vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child

Jim wilson attempted to add an amendment to the bill that would require the father of the child to be financially responsible for the woman’s health care, housing, transportation, and nourishment while she was pregnant.


Which really points out JUST how ridiculous the whole thing is. Of course the amendments didnt pass, and Johnson even with drew it, making her point very well just how warped and straight-up sexist this kind of legislation is.
do I get a gold star Ms? winks



SoftBonds -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 10:01:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Jim wilson attempted to add an amendment to the bill that would require the father of the child to be financially responsible for the woman’s health care, housing, transportation, and nourishment while she was pregnant.



Actually, that isn't a bad idea...
Maybe if we get something like that passed in "Blue states," it will scare the abortion foes right out of the building?
It isn't like it would be a bad law. I mean, most situations like this would be covered by marriage vows anyway, and the ones that are not, I think this is a basic fairness issue. If the woman has to handle the morning sickness/pain/doctor's visits/etc. The least the man can do is pay for the financial support of the little bugger.



Lucylastic -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 10:05:40 AM)

Its got as much chance of passing as I have of becoming the pope.



SoftBonds -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 10:09:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Its got as much chance of passing as I have of becoming the pope.


Point.
Like my idea of unlimited corporate speech, but no company that influences elections can get any government contract (shut up if you want to eat at the trough law). Sometimes I let "good idea," blind me to "politically dead on arrival."



SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 10:10:02 AM)

The only flaw with that is to determine paternity when the child is in the womb is dangerous to the child... and any guy can say.. oh not mine i didnt fuck her...

it isnt until the babys born that it would be feasable...and then you have the same issues we have, with deadbeat dads who dont also pay child support



Lucylastic -> RE: Sterilize all woman getting abortions? Pro or Con? Discuss. (2/21/2012 10:11:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SpiritedRadiance

The only flaw with that is to determine paternity when the child is in the womb is dangerous to the child... and any guy can say.. oh not mine i didnt fuck her...

it isnt until the babys born that it would be feasable...and then you have the same issues we have, with deadbeat dads who dont also pay child support

very true..and agreed



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