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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:20:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		The point is, the word was used as an attack towards particular female posters.
Since Xmas the attack of posters has been a no no.
Calling Andrea Dworkin a feminazi is one thing, calling a poster a feminazi out of frustration and anger, and misunderstanding so to lash out stupidly is another.
I can call Santorum a PIMP(pathetic, impotent, maladjusted pig) and just get posts telling me not to be so childish.
But I will get my post removed and a gold letter from the mods telling me to stop if I aim it at a poster.
Quite simple really


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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:27:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		The objection was to the person who used the term (me).

You see, because I have spoken about feminism being about women also taking responsibility for the rights they demand, I'm a "woman hater" according to some in the protected class (Feminazis). The earliest fight from the (60s-70s) feminism front was about having choice, freedom and responsibility for reproduction.

The feminazis object to the idea that government or men are not willing to pay for their choices. It's really that simple.

It would be a lot more convincing an argument if they either got the government to pay for or if they offered to pay for vasectomies; but that's a man's responsibility .

Why shouldn't a lady pay for her own birth control pills? Why should I (unless she's my lady)? Why should tax payers (some of whom are anti-birth control)? Where's the responsibility? Part of being a feminazi (in my mind) is the abdication of responsibility, while demanding more rights.



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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:29:23 PM   
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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:29:55 PM   
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Not all of us are incapable of civilized discourse.


I came here because you started this thread!

And, though this part of the boards has a reputation of being a festival of savagery, I really am not interested in political or religious discussion per se. I am an atheist, and have no need to "discuss" the whys and wherefores, or mock those that live faith-based lives. I am not a follower of a political party, and I despair at what the United States has become.

A lot of stupid people post here, too. I really cannot abide stupid people. I know it's not their *fault* but I don't have to listen to them.


Hey, I'm not stupid, just unwise, foolish and frequently uninformed!

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:31:42 PM   
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The whole side-bar of this Limbaugh person - well, I don't care who he is and how he chooses to define the word, but he doesn't get to define my vocabulary. For that matter, the dictionary is the only thing that I generally allow to define my vocabulary - I am vehemently opposed to the whole politically-correct thing.


You really can't escape the Limbaugh connection.

http://www.reference.com/browse/feminazi

Feminazi is a pejorative term used to characterize feminists. Popularized by radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, it is used in North America by social conservatives to refer to feminists whom they perceive as intolerant of conservative views.

Usage

Feminazi is a portmanteau of the nouns feminist and Nazi. The on-line version of the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines the term as used in a "usually disparaging" manner, to describe "an extreme or militant feminist".

Popularized by Rush Limbaugh

The term was popularized by conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, who credited his friend Tom Hazlett, a professor of law and economics at George Mason University, with coining the term. Limbaugh originally stated that the word “feminazi” refers to women whose goal is to allow as many abortions as possible, saying at one point that there were fewer than twenty-five true feminazis in the U.S. Limbaugh has never offered the names of any specific group or individuals who believe "there should be as many abortions as possible."

In practice Limbaugh has used the term "feminazi" for much wider contexts. Limbaugh also used the term to refer to members of the National Center for Women and Policing, the Feminist Majority Foundation, and the National Organization for Women, which has over 500,000 members.On April 26, 2004, commenting on the April 25 March for Women's Lives, Limbaugh said, “Some funny comments from the feminazis at the pro-abortion rally in Washington yesterday. Not many. It didn't take long for us to put together our montage, but we'll let you hear it when we come back.” The marches' organizers estimated that 1.15 million people attended.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:35:06 PM   
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The objection was to the person who used the term (me).


Wrong, as stated in my OP and post 76 here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4040596/mpage_4/tm.htm

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:40:30 PM   
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Why shouldn't a lady pay for her own birth control pills?

As previously mentioned in threads on which you participated:

Most of Obama's "Controversial" Birth Control Rule Was Law During Bush Years

In December 2000, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled that companies that provided prescription drugs to their employees but didn't provide birth control were in violation of Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which prevents discrimination on the basis of sex. That opinion, which the George W. Bush administration did nothing to alter or withdraw when it took office the next month, is still in effect today—and because it relies on Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, it applies to all employers with 15 or more employees. Employers that don't offer prescription coverage or don't offer insurance at all are exempt, because they treat men and women equally—but under the EEOC's interpretation of the law, you can't offer other preventative care coverage without offering birth control coverage, too.

"It was, we thought at the time, a fairly straightforward application of Title VII principles," a top former EEOC official who was involved in the decision told Mother Jones. "All of these plans covered Viagra immediately, without thinking, and they were still declining to cover prescription contraceptives. It's a little bit jaw-dropping to see what is going on now…There was some press at the time but we issued guidances that were far, far more controversial."

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Part of being a feminazi (in my mind) is the abdication or responsibility, while demanding more rights.

Not happening.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:50:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Problem is, no one said it was only the man's place to provide birth control. satyr is making that up.


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You see, because I have spoken about feminism being about women also taking responsibility for the rights they demand, I'm a "woman hater" according to some in the protected class (Feminazis). The earliest fight from the (60s-70s) feminism front was about having choice, freedom and responsibility for reproduction.


What he neglected to say was that he feels a woman should be forced to have an abortion or give up the right to child support if the father of the baby doesnt want the responsibility.

Forced abortions or poverty.

If you dont agree with those two proposals, then you are a "feminazi".

Guess my suggestion of sperm banks and a vasectomy really hit home.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:52:34 PM   
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Problem is, no one said it was only the man's place to provide birth control. satyr is making that up.


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You see, because I have spoken about feminism being about women also taking responsibility for the rights they demand, I'm a "woman hater" according to some in the protected class (Feminazis). The earliest fight from the (60s-70s) feminism front was about having choice, freedom and responsibility for reproduction.


What he neglected to say was that he feels a woman should be forced to have an abortion or give up the right to child support if the father of the baby doesnt want the responsibility.

Forced abortions or poverty.

If you dont agree with those two proposals, then you are a "feminazi".

Guess my suggestion of sperm banks and a vasectomy really hit home.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:53:17 PM   
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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 6:58:52 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		That I cannot help. However, to rant and rave about how men are tricked into impregnating a woman...

hell... where is the man's responsibility in that?

Why would a man allow himself to be tricked?

I am not claiming the responsibility is all his.. nor is it hers... its both... takes two.

To whine and carry on that a man was "tricked"????



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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 7:02:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

The whole side-bar of this Limbaugh person - well, I don't care who he is and how he chooses to define the word, but he doesn't get to define my vocabulary. For that matter, the dictionary is the only thing that I generally allow to define my vocabulary - I am vehemently opposed to the whole politically-correct thing.


You really can't escape the Limbaugh connection.

http://www.reference.com/browse/feminazi

Feminazi is a pejorative term used to characterize feminists. Popularized by radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, it is used in North America by social conservatives to refer to feminists whom they perceive as intolerant of conservative views.


Well, they are absolutely incorrect about it being a "North America" thing, because here in Canada we were using the term back in the early '80s (which is at least a decade before this guy "popularized" it). They really need to stop seeing the US as the entirety of North America...

Our usage and understanding of the definition was more like "a pejorative term used to refer to those calling themselves feminists but stridently intolerant of men in all respects".

If this guy's definition has been your only exposure to this term, I can see why your reaction to it would be different from mine, or from anyone from outside the US who has had a much different exposure to it.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 7:10:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Yes, I think that's what set him off. I think we're both on Hide, so he won't be able to let us know.


kali, tazzy how did you succeed in getting yourselves put on 'hide' - there are some things a girl needs to know! Please share!


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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 7:44:58 PM   
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Well, they are absolutely incorrect about it being a "North America" thing, because here in Canada we were using the term back in the early '80s (which is at least a decade before this guy "popularized" it). They really need to stop seeing the US as the entirety of North America...

Our usage and understanding of the definition was more like "a pejorative term used to refer to those calling themselves feminists but stridently intolerant of men in all respects".

If this guy's definition has been your only exposure to this term, I can see why your reaction to it would be different from mine, or from anyone from outside the US who has had a much different exposure to it.


First know use is 1989.... "coined" by Rush Limbaugh (1989) You really need to provide a source for your assertion.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 7:47:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Yes, I think that's what set him off. I think we're both on Hide, so he won't be able to let us know.


kali, tazzy how did you succeed in getting yourselves put on 'hide' - there are some things a girl needs to know! Please share!



We proved ourselves smarter than he could handle.

Myself, I added the notion of sperm bank, then snip snip.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 7:55:10 PM   
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First know use is 1989.... "coined" by Rush Limbaugh (1989) You really need to provide a source for your assertion.


Sorry, but I have no way of providing a "source" for conversations that I had starting back in high school! I have no idea where we picked the term up from, but my friends and I have been using it at least since 1981.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 8:13:14 PM   
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Please remain on topic or slight thread drift.

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/27/2012 8:43:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You know, names, case numbers, Judge names.... something besides.. "My friend" or "I heard it from the man across the street"


Was this directed at me?

(The rest of the post was about Satyr.)

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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/28/2012 12:06:25 AM   
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t implies membership in a group, the "feminazi party"


Hmmm.... You really must tell us more about this fictional party.
It's an army of Dworkin clones, engaged in perpetual war with the equally shadowy conspiracy called "The Patriarchy" composed of clones of fat, cigar chomping men who also like sunsets filtered through the haze of sulfur dioxide (it really saturates and intensifies the colors, a miracle really), and long walks on the beach in countries with liberal sex tourism laws.


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RE: Feminazis and Godwin's Law - 2/28/2012 12:09:56 AM   
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