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my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:31:34 AM

SoftBonds

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So my sub kinda admitted to another girl that she was a sub. I don't know all the details, but they are both subs, and I think it was a "can I get advice," thing on the part of my sub.
Anyway, the other sub figured it was an opportunity of some sort, and tried to top my sub. Now the other sub doesn't seem to want to take no for an answer. Both subs are sharing classes in school, and I'd like to fix this without getting either of them in trouble at school. Jealousy is starting to kick in and things are getting vengeful instead of...
Anyway, would it be a good idea for me to talk to the other sub's master and ask him to tell his sub to leave my sub alone?
I was tempted to talk to the sub, but it is another master's sub, so...
And what do I do if the other sub's master just says "no."? I would like to protect my sub...

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:32:20 AM

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Is she 12 and unable to say "fuck off" for herself?

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:33:14 AM

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No. I would stay out of it.
What kind of school is it? College?
The girls should be able to handle themselves.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:34:12 AM

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I gotta agree with Fornica... is she not old enough to say screw off... sounds like high school drama

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:35:35 AM

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what she said... and let me add...

WTF? I can't believe you'd ask such a thing...

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ORIGINAL: Fornica

Is she 12 and unable to say "fuck off" for herself?

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:37:17 AM

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OK, I'm just getting the vibe that the other sub maybe promised her master my sub (newly acquired, so at the time this started was unclaimed) as a unicorn and is doing the threats and getting my sub in trouble at school as revenge for not being able to give her master my sub...

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:37:20 AM

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I appreciate the protectiveness. You can talk to her dominant and at least make him aware. He may or may not do something.

But, the bottom line is that your submissive is an adult. You probably can't solve this problem for her. She's going to have to put her big girl panties on deal with the situation.

If she's being harassed by a fellow student, she really should be documenting and then going to the school's administrative office to file a complaint.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:37:23 AM

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Since you've shown on P&R your ability to reason, I'm guessing this is a spoof (?)

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:42:06 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Since you've shown on P&R your ability to reason, I'm guessing this is a spoof (?)

No, actually it isn't. I just want to take care of my sub.
I don't think this is something we want the school administration involved in, we being the B&D community. Better to deal with this "in house," I would think.
My sub is dealing with it, going to the school administration today in fact. I just...
I want my sub focused on getting her degree, not fending off sexual harassment. Admitting you are a sub doesn't mean any dom can come along and give orders, or that another sub can tell you what to do, and when you say no, tell others lies about you...
Sorry for the drama, but I am new to this...

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:42:20 AM

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It seems you quickly connected with someone that put her trust in someone that is now abusing it. How is she getting her into trouble at school?

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:46:56 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

It seems you quickly connected with someone that put her trust in someone that is now abusing it. How is she getting her into trouble at school?

Not sure I want to get into too much detail, I don't want to "out," my sub any more than I already have. Um, saying my sub did things that would be against the school's rules. Trying to interrupt my Sub during times she is supposed to be concentrating on subjects, dropping my sub from a class group at the absolute last minute so my sub had to get a new group assigned by the teacher...
Just little stuff, but it is interfering with my sub's ability to concentrate on school...

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 9:54:11 AM

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Has your sub been very clear to the other woman that her behavior is unacceptable? I can't help but wonder if this is a case of bad self-protection or advocacy.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 10:08:14 AM

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I'd wait until your submissive does what she is going to do today and see what they say. She is new to you and you really need to watch how involved you are getting as you aren't there and don't know all. I might have a different answer if you had been together a long time and knew one another well... but still my advice would be legal and dealing with the school. I am not saying your submissive isn't being truthful or telling everything... but really, this soon, how could you know that she actually is? I would step lightly, let her handle it, see what the school says and just be supportive.

Being new to this... I must say... there are those submissives that will encourage drama to get you into a protective stance against someone and it is easy to be drawn in. Just say no.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 10:12:50 AM

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Thank you.
I will wait and see what happens. Just be there for emotional support.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 10:35:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit
there are those submissives that will encourage drama to get you into a protective stance against someone and it is easy to be drawn in.

Absolutely. Even at college age, I would have shut the drama down quickly.

I'm always curious about subs that need a dominant to fight their battles. Especially, when its something on the internet. I mean what will the D do? Cyber beat someone up?

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 11:31:29 AM

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When I hear about shit like this, and how you worded it - it just BLOWS MY MIND.

Do you put every context of your life in BDSM jargon? This is a problem that is going on between two people. One of those people has you as a S.O.

Why cant she tell the other chick to fuck off? And how the hell is this other chick "topping" her. That doesn't even make any sense.

Going and talking to this other chicks dood? Really? Are you her parent and need to go and talk to another parent that your two brats are fighting? Give me a break.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 11:34:49 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SoftBonds

So my sub kinda admitted to another girl that she was a sub. I don't know all the details, but they are both subs, and I think it was a "can I get advice," thing on the part of my sub.
Anyway, the other sub figured it was an opportunity of some sort, and tried to top my sub. Now the other sub doesn't seem to want to take no for an answer. Both subs are sharing classes in school, and I'd like to fix this without getting either of them in trouble at school. Jealousy is starting to kick in and things are getting vengeful instead of...
Anyway, would it be a good idea for me to talk to the other sub's master and ask him to tell his sub to leave my sub alone?
I was tempted to talk to the sub, but it is another master's sub, so...
And what do I do if the other sub's master just says "no."? I would like to protect my sub...

I think your instinct to step in for your sub is great, even though the others are right that the situation calls for caution and delicacy. Especially if you do not have the kind of formal TPE sort of arrangement. While you are her Master, truly and fully, stepping in is part of being responsible for her and taking care of her. But while she is just your sometimes playfriend with her own life outside of her time with you, it's frankly none of your business and by letting her pull you in you would be allowing her to take advantage of you (and we can't have that!).

If she were my Owned sub, not someone with her own life outside of mine, I would speak with the other sub. It is not overstepping for me to step in as my sub's Master(non-gender specific) to address someone bullying or threatening her since you would not be addressing the other girl as a sub but as your sub's antagonist. But I would be prepared for the chance that that girl's Master is not cognitive enough to see it that way. Given the situation, however, it would not be overstepping my bounds to address that girl's Master either... how dare he try to acquire another Master's property on the sly!

But legal vanilla recourse should always come first when things like these occur in the vanilla world. When in Rome... If this was happening at kin club or similar, however, I'd just grab the other sub by the roots of her hair and haul her ass off in front of her Master and inform them that your sub is off-limits.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 12:06:59 PM

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Tell her to go to the dean and tell the authorities that she is being harassed by this other girl for turning down a request to have sex with the other girl and the other girl's male partner. That it is interfering with her school work and she wants it stopped now.

At any school there are rules in place about harassment. And authorities who will enforce them. If she wants you to go up with her to hold her hand, offer to do so.

Don't warn the other sub prior to filing charges or she may file charges against her first. If she can write a log of when each instance occurred and what was said, and if there are texts or emails that she can show the school, have her bring them as proof.

There is no reason to try to not get the other girl in trouble. Better that she learns now how to behave instead of losing job after job for her behavior.

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 12:14:45 PM

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Really ??? you are telling us that you and your girl are not smart enuff to figure this grade school drama out??? Why don't you just run home and tell mommy?

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RE: my sub harrassed by another master's sub - 2/27/2012 12:22:34 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alecta
If this was happening at kin club or similar, however, I'd just grab the other sub by the roots of her hair and haul her ass off in front of her Master

Which isn't kosher either and would be considered physical assault.

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