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Rochsub2009 -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 11:57:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: southernman808

She seem generally afraid that I was disappointed in her answer. Maybe she was picking up on my domiance, as I was clearly talking down/to her?



That's not called "dominance" (or "domiance", as you called it). That's called being an asshole.

You clearly have a lot to learn about what constitutes true D/s. Blatant disrespect is typically not a core element.




southernman808 -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 1:03:21 PM)

Thanks for the response girls, a quite diverse response. I probably mispoke when I said I spoke down to her, the problem I was having was that she was being so deferal I couldn't get a straight answer out of her. So I was doing a lot of pumping for information, when I said she looked scared, perhaps you gals were right and she was just scared about not having a answer to the questions I was posing. Buts as your responses show personias can change depending upon the cercumstaince. I agree that people can be passive or shy, in public and not be sexual submissive. I just got a really strong feeling that she was being purposefully submissive, both times I have talked to her. Once maybe she was ready to bite my neck as one sub said, but twice? As for just asking her out, ...I just might. And as for a posible boyfriend, if ...if she started to date me then she would be effectly broken up with him anyway, or they could be nothing serious, who knows but her.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 1:06:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: southernman808

Thanks for the response girls,

Yo, roch and Steve. We're chicks now. Does that mean my mailbox is gonna fill up with messages from HNG's?




Lockit -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 1:18:54 PM)

Your view of what a submissive is, is rather odd. A submissive doesn't have to be shy, scared, passive, unable and a social misfit as you seem to describe. To put yourself or interject your take on things as you have, to assuming she needs something and retain your feeling she is missing something, after all that has been said, suggests the problem is with you, in my opinion. One isn't made larger or better, more dominant or effective by the lowering or being less than a whole person, found in another. To see a submissive as less of anything else, suggests to me that you have a problem with being a whole yourself and need to find something lacking in someone else to get your placement or high.

To assume anything about her relationships or life, that fits right into your fantasy... ought to embarrass you... but no... you just keep coming back to show the CM world... how lacking you really are.

And... I am not submissive, however, if I were, I sure wouldn't be lacking and I sure wouldn't be the type of person you seem to think a submissive is. Lacking. Seriously dysfunctional and lacking. Nor as a dominant would I be looking for submission from someone that was.

Dude, you seriously come off very creepy even if it is simply that you are clueless. You remind me of a guy that claimed to be submissive that saw any woman in heels or boots as a dominant. That is either seriously funny or scary.




littlewonder -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 1:37:29 PM)

So you were asking this girl personal questions while she was at work? And you expected her to give you straight answers to a complete stranger???

Yeah, sorry but that's creepy to me and I would have felt a little flustered and taken aback too. But after that I would have said personal questions are not appropriate here, especially if other people are in line behind you and could overhear the conversation or you were holding everyone else up and she simply wanted to get you through the line before everyone else started getting angry.

Sorry dude but you're waaaayyyy reading into things that I think are simply not there.






kalikshama -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 1:43:35 PM)

Ask my ex-manager how deferential I was.

[sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif]

(He's my ex because I moved back to MA to be closer to family, not because of my lack of submissiveness in the work place.)




OsideGirl -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 1:56:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: southernman808

Thanks for the response girls,

Yo, roch and Steve. We're chicks now.

A chick with a really big cock.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 2:21:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dude, you seriously come off very creepy even if it is simply that you are clueless. You remind me of a guy that claimed to be submissive that saw any woman in heels or boots as a dominant. That is either seriously funny or scary.



Oh no! So now I have to get rid of my heels and boots!! What next? [:o]




DarkSteven -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 4:01:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: southernman808

Thanks for the response girls,

Yo, roch and Steve. We're chicks now.


I've known some MtFs complain how hard it was to transition. Have I got news for them!

So... where are the lesbians at?




risktaker9 -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 5:02:00 PM)

Words cannot express the amount of fail how you are interpreting things here.




DarkSteven -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 5:57:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: southernman808

Thanks for the response girls, a quite diverse response. I probably mispoke when I said I spoke down to her, the problem I was having was that she was being so deferal I couldn't get a straight answer out of her.


If I was female, I'd resent you patronizing me with the word "girl". But I'll simply write this off to you being clueless.

Sounds like she was tongue tied. Also sounds like the chemistry between you two wasn't that good. Under the circumstances you describe, I'd try to be more gentle with her. If she's feeling nervous, being authoritative won't help.
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So I was doing a lot of pumping for information, when I said she looked scared, perhaps you gals were right and she was just scared about not having a answer to the questions I was posing. Buts as your responses show personias can change depending upon the cercumstaince. I agree that people can be passive or shy, in public and not be sexual submissive. I just got a really strong feeling that she was being purposefully submissive, both times I have talked to her.


*Sigh*. Of course she was being purposefully deferential. It's her job. We've said that.
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Once maybe she was ready to bite my neck as one sub said, but twice? As for just asking her out, ...I just might. And as for a posible boyfriend, if ...if she started to date me then she would be effectly broken up with him anyway, or they could be nothing serious, who knows but her.


Fella, this is the second time that you've said that she's not solid with her bf. First, because she was coming on to you as a sub. Now, it's because she accepted a date with you.

Cool your jets. One thing you need to know is that wimmins are weird. They will accept dates for all kinds of reasons. Not all of them relate to jumping your bones, or submitting to you.

She sounds like she's in her very early 20s. If she does accept a date with you, it's a fair guess that she'll expect you to act like a 38 year old. Try to do so. Calm down, act dignified, and take an interest in her. For God's sake, try to not think of her as a playtoy on two legs. if you do, act like you don't.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 6:01:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyXandreia

You should have whipped it out right then and there. That would have been the dominant thing to do.


I almost scared the cat off the computer desk LOL'ing at this!!! [:D]




Daddysredhead -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 6:05:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

quote:

ORIGINAL: southernman808

Thanks for the response girls,

Yo, roch and Steve. We're chicks now. Does that mean my mailbox is gonna fill up with messages from HNG's?


C'mere, Hilly. Your bra strap is showing... [8|]

*the complete & utter douchebaggery the OP is showing just baffles me*




poise -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 7:25:02 PM)

Here fishy fishy fishy...

Look, Ma, I caught a submissive fish!

[image]http://www.cool-smileys.com/images/fish5.gif[/image]







MistressDarkArt -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 8:44:09 PM)

Dude, apparently even spell-check can't help you.

For future reference: d e f e r e n t i a l, d o m i n a n c e, a l w a y s, r e s p e c t f u l,
r e a l i z e d, t r u l y, p e r s o n a(e), c i r c u m s t a n c e, e f f e c t i v e l y,
p o s s i b l e

quote:

And as for a posible boyfriend,


Possibly she prefers women, had you stopped to consider that?

No matter her gender preference/lifestyle orientation (or the lack)/relationship status...you, sir, are tremendously out of line in your assumptions. Stop projecting your fantasies onto an employee who is trying to do the job she needs to keep. You clearly made her uncomfortable. And please, for everyone's sake stop using words you can't properly spell.





MrRodgers -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 9:34:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jennileigh8182

I'm going to go out on a limb and answer the OP a different way.

There are some people that inspire a naturally submissive reaction. I recall a man in the grocery store a few years ago, who I didn't even speak to, just another customer....we crossed paths a few times, going opposite ways down the aisles. Something in his demeanor, the way he looked at me, i deferred without even thinking about it, eyes lowering, murmuring a soft and deferential 'excuse me' if we came too close or I needed something near him. That might sound normal to some, but it's not for me. I'm pretty alpha in my normal interactions. I'm a supervisor at work and I'm almost always in control....except in a relationship. Now, was he actually a dominant? Hard to say for sure, but he put that energy out during such a dull, normal activity as grocery shopping. Am I a natural sub? He might have thought so, others have indeed thought so, and yet others have said I'm a very poor attempt at a sub.

It comes down to: get to know her and find out....but maybe.

I like that word. I have being old-school, always thought that submission was inspired...not over the retail counter. Here many come to feel it online, not so back then. Socially, from the start, the dominant would have you...cross the line. She drew one you didn't see.




kitkat105 -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/1/2012 10:31:47 PM)

hehehe

I've been called Ma'am. That doesn't make me a Domme!

You are majorly over thinking this. More like maybe her previous customer was an ass like you and she was scared. Or her boss just yelled at her.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/2/2012 1:03:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

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ORIGINAL: LadyXandreia

You should have whipped it out right then and there. That would have been the dominant thing to do.


I almost scared the cat off the computer desk LOL'ing at this!!! [:D]


*perks* That works?!!




xxblushesxx -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/2/2012 1:07:21 AM)

I'm not going to beat up on ya, OP (cuz the other ladies beat me to it!) but the repsonses have really not been that varied.
They did suggest that what we fantasize in our own little minds, are not necessarily reality.
And sometimes a fish, really is...just a fish.
Real life just doesn't (usually) turn out like "The Secretary" or various other bdsm related movies. (sadly) [:o][:(]




SoftBonds -> RE: Is she a natural submissive? (3/2/2012 5:55:45 AM)

Imagine the Op as a military officer...
"Everyone is calling me sir, deferring to me, listening to me, they must all be submissive..."
(meanwhile the enlisted are thinking 'what an ass')




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