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SternSkipper -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/4/2012 4:20:42 PM)

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Whoa! Where did I claim some special sub-category or attempt to add credibility? I simply pointed out that, no matter the sub-culture you could put me in, I do try to keep members of that sub-culture honest and rational. I simply used my sexual orientation as a reference point. Nothing more, nothing less. If you are reading subtext in there that doesn't exist, that is on you.


Then do us all a big favor and stow the worthless data. It was immaterial.


And please whenever possible avoid using the word "whoa" with me like I have crossed some 'sacred line'... Unless not giving a flying fuck is now a TOS violation, I'm basically considering this over use of hyperbole.
There's a number of people here who know my 'specifics' and what I've sacrificed to protect their integrity and the parts of that picture that are two legged. What I don't do is bring them up unless it's an important aspect of what is being discussed.

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Also, where did I ever say that I don't sway in my political beliefs, or that I am always on the side of conservatives? Please, show me that.Finally, I'm not sure why you think I have any say, pull, or influence over what other conservatives do.


You know what? You're right you said "say" and I remembered "sway"... but given the context the difference is nominal.

"Finally, I'm not sure why you think I have any say, pull, or influence over what other conservatives do. "

Gee, maybe it's my age.. maybe it's cause I pay a little more attention to the actual moral footprint I leave ... But when I see something materially wrong with the socio-political scene I am involved in I make sure I'm heard and what my objections are.
Believe it or not. When you're a member of any socio-political endeavor that isn't worthless in nature and your point is valid, people listen.

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You seem to be the one who wants to make all members of a group responsible for every other member of that group. Not me. I am responsible for what I say and what I do. I'm not responsible for anyone else. Don't try to hold me accountable because other conservatives have said things you don't like.


Yeah, okay... so we can't count on so-called "good conservatives" to leash their dog. I'm cool with that. Just don't get too upset when the Bus runs fido over.

Conservatism is a movement not AA or religion. It's a multi-celled thing not amoebic.
But whatever... I'm gonna call this one a happy ending and let go of it.




Yachtie -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 9:28:28 AM)

Breitbart's Last piece of work.

Vetting Obama.




mnottertail -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 9:32:14 AM)

So, nothing but untutored hyperbole.  Brietbart is a completely wasted life.




Lucylastic -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 9:41:06 AM)

If they havent found anything more than probable cause that his BC is a forgery after ALL the stuff oily taint/ breitbart/okeefe/rush/beck/and other worthy birthers cant come up with anything, they are simply incompetent.
RW media and its environs have done nothing BUT investigate, and what have they come up with in five years?
a poster to a play that happened in 1998..which says basically it was a conspiracy of lefties.
PUHLEEEZE
Five years on, and severe incompetence by investigators and lots of "what ifs'
I love a good conspiracy theory and this doesnt even come close to being good.
Apart from the fact that no one reading that "article" knows what a marxist is, outside of paranoid fantasies, is more than telling.




SternSkipper -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 9:44:45 AM)

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Breitbart's Last piece of work.

Vetting Obama.


And as my personal tribute to Breitbart, I won't watch it and let it fade off into permanent obscurity. Just like the man.

Thanks for the opportunity.





SternSkipper -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 9:54:00 AM)

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Five years on, and severe incompetence by investigators and lots of "what ifs'
I love a good conspiracy theory and this doesnt even come close to being good.
Apart from the fact that no one reading that "article" knows what a marxist is, outside of paranoid fantasies, is more than telling.


Exactly ... Ancient Astronauts Theory looks credible by comparison.

In fact, maybe there's your culprits... Art bell and George Noory have cocktails with the guy he stiffens up saying something like "I taste apple pie" and drops fucking stone cold dead right then and there.

We'll have to wait a week or two to see if the Mainstream media starts hinting that Ancients Astronaut theory might have something to it.




kalikshama -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 2:00:09 PM)

Bill Maher: 'Who the Fuck Is Saul Alinsky?'

Maher calls conservative propaganda 'paranoid,' 'fictional'

With conservatives increasingly comparing the strategy of President Obama to the playbook of Saul Alinsky, Bill Maher has two angry responses: "One, why would you invite my outrage by suggesting such a specious link? ... And two, who the fuck is Saul Alinsky?" In a clip picked up by Mediaite, Maher notes that the Alinsky meme is going mainstream, with Newt Gingrich recently ranting that the current election represents "American exceptionalism versus the radicalism of Saul Alinksy."

Deadpans Maher, "if Newt hates him, he's probably a divorce lawyer."

So Maher Wikipedia-ed "Alinsky" and instantly discovered the problem: "He liked black people," said Maher. "Alinsky also fought slum lords and taught poor people to band together to improve their lives—or what Mitt Romney calls 'a divider.'" The bigger point is how Republicans create fictional opponents completely divorced from reality, like "Barack X," "an Islamo-socialist revolutionary who's coming for your guns..."

Maher contends that while liberals were perhaps shrewish in their hatred of George Bush, they hated him for things he actually did, like the economy, Iraq War, and torture: "That was the real guy."

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5HxUeoQa8s




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 4:17:21 PM)

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To actually take pleasure from someone`s death is not normal.


I always rejoice in the death of my enemies.




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 4:34:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

Its telling to list Breitbart amongst two genocidal tyrants,

Fitting dont you think? That a man who murdered peoples reputations without regard for the truth is listed between two men woh murdered peoples bodies...too kewel.

and judging by the reaction of those who tastelessly cheered his death on here (specifically Hippiekinkster and Fightdirecto), thats the light in which they see Breitbart.

That is the light he shown on himself.

The worst thing he did was strip the context of the footage of Sherrod. An objectionable thing to do, especially when she lost her job but does that make him an evil individual?

Absolutely, glad you noticed.

No it makes him a pretty average media sort actually.

Average if you are comparing him to rush and hanity...hardly average if you compare him to humans.

The media repeatedly twists and strips comments of their context.

Just the liars.
Perhaps you could post for us the times that npr or pbs "repeatedly twist and strips the comments of their context.


I can't say how accurate the article by David Frum is with regard to Breitbart's overall character but his piece exaggerates one point to miss another much more fundamental point. Breitbart seemed to be waging a war against the media that he preceived as prejudiced. If he was economical with the truth

Is "economical with the truth" code for fucking liar?

(I can't say to what extent as I hardly ever looked at his sites)

You state that you do not know what you are talking about but then go to give us your opinion about that which you have stated that you know nothing about.

then he surely learnt those lessons fom the people he opposed.

If, as you state "I hardly ever looked at his sites" how the fuck do you presume to know what he learned and from whom he learned it

In other words it is absurd to suggest he has had such a gravely poisonous impact on the media and on politics that he changed the character of these respective fields to a significant extent.

This from someone who claims "I hardly ever looked at his sites"...do you even read the shit you post?

It gives the guy far too much credit IMHO, and excuses how sensationalistic and dumbed down the mainstream media is, and has been for a very long time.

You clearly do not listen to npr or pbs...the question is why. Are they too intellectual for you? Do you need "dumbed down news from rush and hanity?


BTW those who celebrated his death actually gave him the kind of response he probably would've wanted...

How do you presume to know what he wanted when you clearly state " I hardly ever looked at his sites"?







thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 4:36:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


This will be something to remember when Dan Rather goes to meet his maker.



What was it exactly that dan rather lied about?
Please be specific.




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 4:37:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

speak for yourself moon...i've got a halo around my head [:)]


Puuuleeeeze




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 4:48:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Would please stop insulting bacon!

What has bacon done to to the world to desverve being assosiated with andrew?

I know bacon,bacon is a friend of mine.....please leave bacon alone...

Bacon.


Bacon is one of the best thing you can consume to help increase your cholestorol.




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 4:54:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Don't Speak Ill of the Recently Departed, unless the Recently Departed Spoke Ill of the the Recently Departed

Breitbart did not afford the customary courtesy due the dead when Sen. Ted Kennedy passed away:

Andrew Breitbart, a Washington Times columnist who oversees Breitbart.com and BigHollywood.com, tapped into the anti-Kennedy vein in the hours after the senator’s death was announced, posting a series of Twitter messages in which he called Kennedy a “villain,” a “duplicitous bastard” and a “prick.”



Actually it is a pretty fair description of both men. The difference being that the more recently dead had no good works to attempt to modify his duplicitous life.




Owner59 -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 5:32:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

Breitbart's Last piece of work.

Vetting Obama.

If bratfart represents a "free and fearless press"....we`re in trouble.

The day the yellow journalism becomes a "free and fearless press"is the day that a free press dies.




slvemike4u -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 5:48:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

speak for yourself moon...i've got a halo around my head [:)]


Puuuleeeeze

Do you doubt I'm an angel ?




Anaxagoras -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 6:49:24 PM)

Thank you for your nit picking response. Obviously you are still sore after our last exchange. How about trying to keep your personal issues out any discussion, eh? No doubt your nonsense will yield a tiresome trading of posts where I have to repeat myself again, and again, and...

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Its telling to list Breitbart amongst two genocidal tyrants,

Fitting dont you think? That a man who murdered peoples reputations without regard for the truth is listed between two men woh murdered peoples bodies...too kewel.

No not in the slightest. Great deal of difference between tyrants who murdered people en masse and harming the reputations of a few people. Its interesting that you fail to see this immense difference. [8|]

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and judging by the reaction of those who tastelessly cheered his death on here (specifically Hippiekinkster and Fightdirecto), thats the light in which they see Breitbart.

That is the light he shown on himself.

No, that is the judgement others passed on him.

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The worst thing he did was strip the context of the footage of Sherrod. An objectionable thing to do, especially when she lost her job but does that make him an evil individual?

Absolutely, glad you noticed.

I would be the first to say he had done wrong, and indeed I pointed that out unprompted.

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No it makes him a pretty average media sort actually.

Average if you are comparing him to rush and hanity...hardly average if you compare him to humans.

Average in terms of the media itself, be it right or left. Its very well known that the media can play fast and loose with the truth but of course it suits you to pretend otherwise.

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The media repeatedly twists and strips comments of their context.

Just the liars.
Perhaps you could post for us the times that npr or pbs "repeatedly twist and strips the comments of their context.


Here you are again trying to get others to do your work for you. I suppose I have to sit through thousands of hours of footage and write a detailed analysis. Neither channel is available in my part of the world so I cannot comment on either source but for your edification here are two articles that cite examples of bias on NPR and PBS: http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2012/02/01/nprs-bias-against-genetic-engineering/ and http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2011/04/public-broadcasting-biased/

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I can't say how accurate the article by David Frum is with regard to Breitbart's overall character but his piece exaggerates one point to miss another much more fundamental point. Breitbart seemed to be waging a war against the media that he preceived as prejudiced. If he was economical with the truth

Is "economical with the truth" code for fucking liar?

(I can't say to what extent as I hardly ever looked at his sites)

You state that you do not know what you are talking about but then go to give us your opinion about that which you have stated that you know nothing about.

Perhaps you need to revisit your literacy issues. I stated "if" he was economical with the truth, and then affirmed that I didn't know to what extent he was. Thus I was not giving an opinion on whether or not he was dishonest generally speaking because I clearly stated that I hadn't read enough of his work to say one way or the other.

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then he surely learnt those lessons fom the people he opposed.

If, as you state "I hardly ever looked at his sites" how the fuck do you presume to know what he learned and from whom he learned it

(A) media manipulation is an age old exercise and (B) I have read comments by himself and other commentators on his own intent as have others on here.

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In other words it is absurd to suggest he has had such a gravely poisonous impact on the media and on politics that he changed the character of these respective fields to a significant extent.

This from someone who claims "I hardly ever looked at his sites"...do you even read the shit you post?

I think you really need to grow up and stop taking your ire out on those you disagree with. If you had bothered to follow the argument, you would see that I was responding to Frum's article which made some extraordinary claims about Breitbart poisoning politics and the media when it is clear that the things ascribed to Breitbart's actions were there a long time before he ever made a name for himself a few years back. That point does not require a close knowledge of the content produced on his websites.

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It gives the guy far too much credit IMHO, and excuses how sensationalistic and dumbed down the mainstream media is, and has been for a very long time.

You clearly do not listen to npr or pbs...the question is why. Are they too intellectual for you? Do you need "dumbed down news from rush and hanity?

Ah more personal attacks. If you had any sort of memory to access you would know I don't listen to any of that stuff.

Stop trying to put those you disagree with into little "FOX News" boxes, and actually engage with some intellectual honesty in what is being said whether you agree or not.

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BTW those who celebrated his death actually gave him the kind of response he probably would've wanted...

How do you presume to know what he wanted when you clearly state " I hardly ever looked at his sites"?

You are repeating yourself. He stated that as the mission of some of his sites, and some commentators also attested to that view.




SternSkipper -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/5/2012 6:51:12 PM)

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Do you doubt I'm an angel ?


You're a dead guy?

Wow... you SEEM so life-like




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/7/2012 10:44:53 AM)

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His actions then were just as disgusting and classless as the actions of some posters on here now.


Perhaps you can explane to me why it is that if someone has been a total dick wad all of his life becomes something less than that on his death.
Why are we required to lie about someone after he is dead?
He was an asshole when he was alive and his death did not change that and I will not change my opinion of someone just because they are dead.




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/7/2012 10:50:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

speak for yourself moon...i've got a halo around my head [:)]


Puuuleeeeze

Do you doubt I'm an angel ?


Yes




thompsonx -> RE: Brierbart dies of a heart attack ? (3/7/2012 11:16:06 AM)

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Average in terms of the media itself, be it right or left. Its very well known that the media can play fast and loose with the truth but of course it suits you to pretend otherwise.


Just where have I pretended otherwise?
I have asked you to post where npr or pbs has acted in the fashion of fox. So far you have been unable to do so.




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