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Aylee -> So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 6:58:28 PM)
So. . . I went to this munch last night. It was about a 2.5 hour drive. Needless to say, I was less than impressed. This was not my first munch ever. Let's face it. I am rather plain. That book, Sarah, Plain and Tall, could have been me. Aylee, Plain and Short. I will never grace a magazine cover but I will not frighten children either. That said, I was THE most attractive female in the room. Well, hell, I have all my teeth. I also did not have Bozo the Clown make-up on. And my hair was clean (I will give that others hair was clean, but it looked greasy to me). And my clothing fit. My boobies were not in danger of falling out of my top/bra and landing in my dinner. I will also say that I actually felt thin. By about 150 pounds. WTF people? So. . . my first thought is that I hope no one falls on me. After about 2 minutes, my thought is, "Why are you people SO loud?" Don't get me wrong, double double entendres, triple entendres, they are great fun. Making a sex/BDSM comment REALLY loud so that everyone can laugh and make you feel good is just annoying. Now. . . let's talk about the "meeting." Oh my goodness. "We have some new people here tonight. Thank you for coming. This first step can be really scary." First step? Am I at an AA meeting? How many steps are there? It would have been really nice if people had been introduced. I have no idea of anyone's names and so could only give the other half descriptors. Scary? I am nearly 36 years old. This is a restaurant. Not really scary. I am not a mental patient afraid to go outside. Besides, we all know that restaurants do not allow dismemberment on the premises as it interferes with dessert. I went out for a smokie treat. Oh my goodness. I know that they THOUGHT they were cute. But let's be realistic. I had heard all of those jokes by the time I left Fort Huachuca. I was 19 then. At some point, they just loose their humor. They become trite. Ugh. Oh, and to continue to talk loudly about doing this or that to another person sexually or in a BDSM fashion while a family with toddlers and about third graders are entering the door. . . tasteless. Tacky, even. Then. . . the rules for the Dungeon. Yep. Sat and listened to them all. Oh. Their dungeon is not open right now. Excuse me? Why did I have to listen to the rules? Needless to say, we came home instead of staying the night as was planned. I have to say that this was not the best munch ever. In fact, "A bunch of idiots," is how I would describe it. I have had one Wisdom tooth removed and they took out two canines before they put me in braces. I mean that I have no gaps.

SorceressJ -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 7:30:36 PM)
Wow, Aylee. This wasn't in Kings Mountain, was it..? (yeah, I know it wasn't, but from your descriptions of the inmates and their manners, it sure sounds like it. Oy!)

OsideGirl -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 7:59:23 PM)
Hmmm...I went to a social last night and I wasn't the most attractive or the least attractive woman there....

Aylee -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 8:03:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SorceressJ Wow, Aylee. This wasn't in Kings Mountain, was it..? (yeah, I know it wasn't, but from your descriptions of the inmates and their manners, it sure sounds like it. Oy!) Oh. . . and from what was observed. . . there was a severe LACK of tipping the waitress. Grrr. No. It was in Wichita, KS.

Aylee -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 8:04:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Hmmm...I went to a social last night and I wasn't the most attractive or the least attractive woman there.... That is where I am used to finding myself. Average. Somewhere in the middle. I am okay with that.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 8:07:11 PM)
Wowser. Yeah, I got nothing. I've never been to a munch that bad, ever.

Hillwilliam -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 8:08:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Hmmm...I went to a social last night and I wasn't the most attractive or the least attractive woman there.... If you weren't the most attractive, there must have been some stunners. [8D]

littlewonder -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 8:14:05 PM)
I've been to tons of munches in at least 5 states. They were exactly all as you described and why I no longer go to them.

Aylee -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 9:01:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder I've been to tons of munches in at least 5 states. They were exactly all as you described and why I no longer go to them. I have been to munches in KC MO and Denver that were pleasant. This just surprised me. The one in Topeka seemed to be a whine-fest about subs. I was thinking that it was just a Kansas thing.

SpiritedRadiance -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 9:06:53 PM)
Ive been to over 250 events in the last 2 years, and have never been to what you describe ever... As for the "the first step can be scary" It can be, just because it isnt for you doesnt make someone a mental patient, it can be terrifying to get out from behind a computer and be in a room with people who have a bizillion years more experience then you... it can be intimidating, it has nothing to do with aa or being insane or wrong or anything other it can be scary...

Daddysredhead -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 9:56:23 PM)
I'm sure it was a blast for lots of the other people who went. You often don't seem to get even the silliest of jokes that people post at times, here and elsewhere, and disect them like Rainman during the "Who's on first?" part of that movie. Being too "open" about lifestyle things in mixed company isn't good, so shame on them. But it sounds like you thought you were "better than" they were and have a chip on your shoulder. Just my opinion... YMMV.

Kalista07 -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 10:05:49 PM)
I've been to plenty of places where I didn't necessarily feel "a part of".... but that doesn't mean I have some need to judge other people because of my own inadequacies or insecurities... I'm of the mindset that I can take what I want, enjoy what I need to, and leave the rest. This is the philosophy I apply at munches, at work, when staying with others, etc. It seems to have done well by me. I've gone to a handful of munches...Some I enjoyed, some I felt right at home, some I didn't care for much at all... The common denominator in all of those: me!! I find their behavior (talking loudly in a public venue about BDSM type things) excessive and rude....I find the way you have judged them all and toted yourself as so much better than them deplorable. It must be tough to be so perfect and wonderful... You can take the cracker out of the box but you can't make it a cookie.... Kali

MissImmortalPain -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 10:12:43 PM)
I feel really bad for you Aylee, and I can't add much. Other than a hope that the munch you went to had nothing to do with the WichitaWicked or MAST in Kansas. I went to a munch in Hutchinson a couple of years ago that made me think of the movie Deliverance so you have my sympathy but there are munchs worth going to and I have to say ...it's not just a Kansas thing there is good and bad everywhere. You have to find the ones that fit you and the ones that don't. I wish you better luck next time.

Fightdirecto -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 10:30:58 PM)
My experience with munches hasn't been that good either. At age 60, I find that almost everyone at all the munches I have gone to in the Boston/Cambridge area are my children's age or younger. If I go alone, they either ignore me completely or treat me like they think I'm some dirty old man just there to perv on young women. If I bring my sub, who is 25 years younger than I, our age difference seems to upset them in some way. Most treat us like we aren't even there - and some are openly hostile.

Aylee -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 10:58:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kalista07 I've been to plenty of places where I didn't necessarily feel "a part of".... but that doesn't mean I have some need to judge other people because of my own inadequacies or insecurities... Wow. I thought that I had stated that I did not feel insecure and how I saw/see myself. Why shouldn't I judge people? You say "judgmental" like that's a BAD thing. Life without judgment is worthless. Recipe for wasted time: don't be "judgmental." Just let life wash over you. There's a subject for an essay right there. quote: I'm of the mindset that I can take what I want, enjoy what I need to, and leave the rest. This is the philosophy I apply at munches, at work, when staying with others, etc. It seems to have done well by me. Really? Good for you! quote: I've gone to a handful of munches...Some I enjoyed, some I felt right at home, some I didn't care for much at all... The common denominator in all of those: me!! Good! quote: I find their behavior (talking loudly in a public venue about BDSM type things) excessive and rude....I find the way you have judged them all and toted yourself as so much better than them deplorable. It must be tough to be so perfect and wonderful... Really? I do not see where I toted myself as "better." Hawter, yes. In the looks department, I won. And I was not trying to compete. I would not know about the difficulties of being perfect and wonderful. Coming from someone (you), that has met me, I find it interesting that you would say such. Be that as it may, the other half went on about sigmas on the bell curve. That is something that I should keep in mind. quote: You can take the cracker out of the box but you can't make it a cookie.... Kali Is this a saying where I will need a British to English dictionary to understand?

Aylee -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 11:07:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain I feel really bad for you Aylee, and I can't add much. Oh, don't. I was invited to go along with a friend. It is all good. I just posted about it because I figured it was good for a laugh. After all I was thinking, "I shaved my legs for THIS?" So Deana Carter of me. quote: Other than a hope that the munch you went to had nothing to do with the WichitaWicked or MAST in Kansas. You mean that there are THREE groups of pain freaks in Wichita? WOW! The other half was surprised that there was a population density to support two. quote: I went to a munch in Hutchinson a couple of years ago that made me think of the movie Deliverance so you have my sympathy but there are munches worth going to and I have to say ...it's not just a Kansas thing there is good and bad everywhere. You have to find the ones that fit you and the ones that don't. I wish you better luck next time. I am not really looking for a munch. I went with a friend who ask me to go with him. As far as next time goes, I have suggested that he get in touch with the group in KC MO. I have been to a couple of their events and I think that he would like them more.

Daddysredhead -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 11:16:32 PM)
facepalm, head desk, rinse, repeat You don't seem to differentiate between 'judgmental' and arrogance, and therein lies the issue. I've spoken to you numerous times on the phone, and most of the time you came across with an air of superiority that made you seem either dense or drunk, I'm not sure which. But it's why I told you to lose my number and why a few other people I know no longer take your calls. However, if this group of people were truly horrific, take heart in the fact you never have to see them again if that is your choice.

Aylee -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 11:17:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead I'm sure it was a blast for lots of the other people who went. I am sure it was. quote: You often don't seem to get even the silliest of jokes that people post at times, here and elsewhere, and disect [sic] them like Rainman during the "Who's on first?" part of that movie. Are you sure that I do not "get" them? After all, playing the 'straight man' is a joke onto itself. quote: Being too "open" about lifestyle things in mixed company isn't good, so shame on them. And so is not tipping. quote: But it sounds like you thought you were "better than" they were and have a chip on your shoulder. Just my opinion... YMMV. 'Better than' in what way? (Of course KU is miles above WSU). Chip on my shoulder about what? Or is there a codebook for mocking people?

Daddysredhead -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/3/2012 11:36:39 PM)
Posting that the contents of a joke are "factually inaccurate" makes a person look like a dumbass. (Think Lilith from Cheers) You shaved your legs for the occasion? Wow, they should send you a thank you card, with a "sincere apology" (a la Rush Limbaugh to Sandra Fluke) for not entertaining you properly.

ResidentSadist -> RE: So. . . I went to this munch. . . (3/4/2012 2:23:45 AM)
quote: So. . . my first thought is that I hope no one falls on me. I went a munch once and could not help but whisper to my slave, "I hope they don't stampede". She replied. "I hope it's not contagious". Whether it's the idiots at a Mensa meeting or the local BDSM society, sometimes the law of averages catches up and all the embarrassments to human gene pool end up at the same place and the same time.

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