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RE: BBW - 6/4/2006 7:00:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: WinterWolf

I'm in North Carolina and see MANY bbw with good Dom's, so I know they are out there. I look past the weight and see the sub inside. When she is under my control, I take in mind her health and everything about her.
If a dom is telling you a sub that they have to lose weight to be with them, they are saying "I can only see what is on the outside, and don't care about receiving that special gift of submission."

WinterWolf,

Very nicely stated. Thank you.

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RE: BBW - 6/4/2006 7:57:18 AM

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alayna is a BBW. Master loves His slave as she is but wants alayna to be around for a long long time, so wishes His alayna to lose weight for health reasons. alayna had started a health regime before we met, so it shall continue. You WILL find the One for you, be selective and continue to love yourself. Good luck and be well.

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RE: BBW - 6/4/2006 8:00:54 AM

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my Master has me committing to Him a daily food diary. As well as i am required to get permission if desiring to go do fast food. i had to contact Him in order to go to Wendy's to get a salad! heehee!

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RE: BBW - 6/4/2006 12:43:22 PM

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I'd guess there are several reasons a Dom would stipulate weightloss. The bigger issue I see is in the sub being comfortable with herself and accepting herself as is and as she hopes to be in the future. I think it's the subs discomfort and defensiveness that make this such an issue.

IF a Dom requires the weight loss prior to getting together, keep it moving. He has to be able to love and accept you as is, and I can't see anyone putting in all that work for a stranger in HOPES of a relationship.

If a Dom will require weight loss on the part of His sub, that's another matter. I know it feels different b/c of the stigma and emotional turmoil attached to the fat, but if it were any other physical change, would it be a big deal? If a Dom insisted that his sub had a belly piercing, a brand, a tatoo, corset training, a certain haircut or color.. would it be such a dealbreaker, would it hurt? If one is attached to the fat, and wishes to keep it, fine- just know those Doms aren't right for you.

I'm not a sub, so my perspective may not be on point, but I would hope that if I was, and my Dom wanted me to do something to change my appearance, I would do it FOR HIM because I love him and love to serve him in whatever capacity he desires (excepting moral and health conflicts). To me, a sub is a jewel, and a Dom who loves his sub will ensure that she is doing healthy things for herself (like losing weight, not smoking etc) so he will have her around to treasure a little longer.

YES!...this reflects fully what I believe...But to the OP I also agree that while you are in a weight loss regime for you,which is more fully important,I am happy to note that you are not putting your life on hold until weight loss.One must fully live life as it happens wether fat or thin you are still you and the more savvy,enlightened Dominant will see the fabulous potential of you!And this Dominant will be the better for his insightful perceptiveness..be well..Tempting

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RE: BBW - 6/5/2006 4:13:14 AM

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Ok you all know these BBW loveing Doms send a few my way because i sure havent met one,
There was one that scared the hell outta me he wanted me to GAIN 160lbs while i want someone to expet my fat I dont want one that wants me to add to it

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RE: BBW - 6/5/2006 8:28:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

Can I ask what is the problem Doms have with BBW's
why is it that every Master that considers me offers me his consideration with the stipulation of loseing waight if you dont like what you see why bother, why enter a relationship when there is something you want to change right away??

I have absolutly no problem with BBW's whatsoever. I can't say that I make a concious choice to couple with women who would fall into that catagory, however statistically speaking, most of those whom I have been with would be considered such in the internet environment.

On the flip side of that coin though, we could all stand to be a bit more healthy. Healthy doesn't necessarily denote losing weight, but I'm certain for a lot of us out here, Myself included, it couldn't hurt. Nevertheless, I would have to agree. If you are someone who is messaging a prospective partner, and can't get past the exterior view, then why bother?

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RE: BBW - 6/5/2006 9:20:31 AM

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I just read your profile and journal entries. It seems to me you have a lot of problems with the way others live their lives and do their own things. Girlfriend...FOCUS on yourself and not what you consider the short sight of others. If someone doesn't like you because of your girth....Flip them and move forward. As a submissive you cannot wear your feelings on your shirt sleeve otherwise you will always be upset about something someone says to you. I agree that there are PEOPLE not just males that discriminate against people that don't fit into their physical mold, FLIP them and move on.

Many people naturally think that a person with an abundance of girth is unhealthy. I am 6'1, weigh in excess of 300 lbs and I am as healthy as horse...My blood pressure is in the normal ranges, I have no heart issues and my blood sugar is normal (no matter how many times the doctor sends me to get it checked) I have no cholesterol issues etc....the only real issue I have is a SLIGHT limp from a crushed ankle years ago oh and allergies to pollen, ragweed etc......so girth for me has nothing to do with my health.

I also come from a long line of heavy women. My Grandmother (rest her soul, died at 84 years last year from a collapsed lung because the X-ray tech rolled her on the wrong side) was 6 ft tall and weighed in excess of 300 lbs all my life, I am 40 All her sisters (7)except 1 were heavy and lived long lives..the one that wasn't heavy died of ovarian cancer at 55.

My handle BBBTBW is descriptive of me
Big
Beautiful
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Tall
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Woman
This is a description a sub gave me long ago and I liked it so much I kept it.

My whole point in this is Be happy with who you are. Some of us are pre-disposed to being curvy and carry some girth. If you let all the rejections from idiots get you down, you will go so far down it will be impossible to come back up.

I agree that all the BBW lovers are on the East Coast for some odd reason and I am in the middle of the US...but hell thats what relocation is for.

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RE: BBW - 6/5/2006 10:27:17 AM

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It is not ok in my opinion to have a dom make weight loss a condition of ownership if the sub has no issue with tbeing overweight. They can see the sub is heavy, so why do they approach BBW sub if they do not like it? I think I can answer my own question and the question of the OP, subs are rare and hard to find, especially young ones with pretty faces like you have enigma, so they want you to lose weight because they have a sub that fits THEIR desires. It is not wrong to help a sub reach a weightloss goal, but to change her only to suit yourself is wrong in my eyes because someone else will come along and value that person the way they are.

People do have the right to want what they want though. Both dom and sub have the right to turn down a partner that does not appeal to them. I like to be with partners that enjoy the outdoors and hiking. I workout too. I desire someone who is like that. Many men feel that way too, nothing wrong with it, but you are right, they should wait untlil they find the sub who is like this, not try to change her into a gym rat when she would rather be watching tv in her spare time. It wont be a good fit if someone is pushed into being someone they just arent

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RE: BBW - 6/6/2006 7:24:54 AM

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Personally, I have to add my own 2 cents worth here and tell you enigma, that for me personally, as a Dom, I asked my sub to gain some weight. Do not be discouraged, there are those of us out there that enjoy the sight, feel, and fun of BBWs exclusively

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RE: BBW - 6/6/2006 7:45:22 AM

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enigmabrat,

I have had subs that weighed 105 pounds and some that weighed over 200. What matters to me is what is on the inside not outside.

I have seen subs over 200 pounds carry themselves a lot better than many 120 pound subs and with class which make them sexier to me than the skinny girl.

My sub now is a little over weight but as long as it doesn't effect her health...who cares? I would love her the same if she was 400 pounds. Again, It's what's inside not outside that matters to me.

btw, I am a breast man and most BBW have larger breasts

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RE: BBW - 6/6/2006 11:19:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

I am happy but im also lose waight but thats for me and my health NOT for any Dom

sweetie, you may be selling the aforementioned dom short. Perhaps he cares and wants you to live a long and healthy life.

For the same reason, I would be concerned about someone who smoked.

Capisce?

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RE: BBW - 6/6/2006 11:35:12 AM

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ORIGINAL: enigmabrat

Can I ask what is the problem Doms have with BBW's
why is it that every Master that considers me offers me his consideration with the stipulation of loseing waight
if you dont like what you see why bother, why enter a relationship when there is something you want to change right away??

Nothing bothers this House about BBW, all women are beautifull, it is in the mind not the flesh.

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RE: BBW - 6/6/2006 12:04:34 PM

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i agree with those who have said that its a matter of prefrence, some men like them skinny some men like them big its how it goes, my Master is one of those who likes them thin and i can say that im glad of his help with my weight loss, im doing really well and we're both happy as a result.

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RE: BBW - 6/6/2006 10:01:47 PM

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A long-ago friend said her ideal diet would to be chained in the cellar and fed plenty of cock.

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RE: BBW - 6/7/2006 12:27:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: Petruchio
A long-ago friend said her ideal diet would to be chained in the cellar and fed plenty of cock.

So did you marry her?

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RE: BBW - 6/7/2006 12:59:13 AM

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interesting topic...I have to agree with Dominatrix...we all have preferences, I had a sub tell me once she didnt wish to chat with me because my first language was not English....go figure...in any case, I congratulate you for trying to lose weight, it is no easy thing, and I say from experience...I went from 200+ to 155 lbs....so with a little self discipline and perseverance, it works. I really, really recommend the "South Beach Diet"...it really worked for me, and I used to be skeptic of diets in general....it works in stages...and there was a stage where I didnt move for more than a month...one has to push on.
good luck to you.

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RE: BBW - 6/16/2006 3:01:26 PM

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my self i have no problem with a bbw sub or slave as a matterof fact they apeal to me more there is more meat on there bones to have more fun with and most that I know are bbw

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RE: BBW - 6/18/2006 6:29:17 PM

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I have a problem with BBW… not the individual women, the concept. A whole lifestyle has developed around the concept of BBW that has created a situation where attitude has replaced responsibility. In the various posts to this thread, I see anger, contempt, and attitude about people who choose not to pursue relationships with women who are overweight. Many times, it is not about their weight, but about their attitude, which the BBW culture has created. Some people build a hard shell around their weight and develop an attitude that causes people NOT to want to meet them and discover who is really inside.
I have seen this from a close up situation with my sister. While her situation might not be the norm, it offers a scenario that people should use to inspect their own lives and attitudes. She was a very thin child who developed a problem with her stomach around the age of 5. After numerous visits to doctors and specialists, one finally decided that the only solution was surgery to find out what was causing her intense pain. The surgery was performed when she was about 7. They found and corrected the problem. What followed was an eating binge that lasted 6 or 7 years. She gained a significant amount of weight, but she was still the wonderful, delightful person she had always been. At the age of 14, she decided enough was enough. For the next two years, she dieted and did exercises. At the age of 16, she had transformed herself into a beautiful girl with a drop dead gorgeous body. Sadly, that beautiful girl had never developed the social skills and interpersonal skills necessary to avoid being taken advantage of. She met two boys one summer, one a user, the other, a nerd that worshipped her. Of course she ended up being used by the user and dumped. Thus began the feeding frenzy that carried her from 110 pounds to over 200 pounds at record speed. Her thought being that if she gained weight she would never be hurt again. The nerd hung around for 10 years trying to offer his love and affection to her. Then, the term BBW was invented. The hurt and anger that led her to the massive weight gain had suddenly found a home. She was safe because she had found a club she could join that approved of her weight gain and by taking the title BBW she was now immune from the need to be sociable. Over the years, as she met men, she was so aggressive about “love me fat or go away”, that the anger and attitude turned people off to the point that no one wanted to be around her. Her mantra was always “if I find someone that will love me like this, I will lose weight”. What she never realized was that it was her attitude instilled by the BBW magazines and mindset that was running people off before they really got to know her. Of course this also led to a bad marriage to someone who made her think he bought into her attitude. After leaving her heavily in debt for a new car and clothes for his real sweetie, plus stealing from my Mom, he ran away. Her story does have a better ending. After searching for 25 years, she finally found someone that looked past her attitude long enough for her to realize that her BBW shell created by the BBW movement had stolen a large part of her life. Did she lose weight? No, she lost the attitude, found a loving partner and happiness.
My partner might be considered to be a borderline BBW by some. Not to me, she is simply my partner, my lover, my submissive. Do I see her weight? No, I see her soul, her sparkling eyes filled with humor and the love of life. Honestly, when we first met, if she had the term BBW in her profile, or threw the term around, I would never have talked to her seriously. BBW isn’t about weight… it is about attitude.
Perhaps one person reading this will look in the mirror and realize that BBW isn’t a crown to wear. It isn’t an ethnic group or a club to join. It isn’t a flag of freedom to parade in the streets. For some people, not all, but some, it is an excuse to display an attitude. It does not make them happy, nor proud. It is a shell. Decide for yourself which side of that street you walk on.

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RE: BBW - 6/18/2006 6:36:05 PM

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Before the mob jumps you and leaves your remains to the wolves, I'll say t's well written, and while I don't agree with every word, most of it rings at least somewhat true.

Yours,

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RE: BBW - 6/18/2006 6:40:40 PM

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benji,
A reply in anger just proves my point. As I said, if one person learns something worthwhile, the flames are worth it. The forum is Ask a Master... one replied without pulling punches. My comments arent aimed at anyone in particular, but those who it fits know it and those it doesnt should know it as well.

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