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fermat5 -> Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 12:37:45 AM)

I have been told not to masturbate. This I have no problem with. I enjoy obeying, relinquishing control of my penis and control of my orgasms. However, I still feel the strong urge to masturbate. She says this desire to masturbate should be eliminated so that I can focus on hers.

But my situation is what turns me on. Her orders and the fact that I have sacrificed my orgasms to her are what turns me on. Is my desire to masturbate not a tribute to her? Is not the fact that I am obeying proof that I am putting her desires before my own? Should I feel ashamed for wanting to masturbate? Is it actually possible to remove the desire to masturbate?




Alecta -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 1:44:38 AM)

Sweet dilemma.

Just because you're turned on doesn't mean you need to masturbate. Think of it as an addiction. Just because you want chocolate doesn't mean you are hungry and need to eat it.

Your desire to masturbate is selfishness, not a tribute to her, because it is you selfishly wanting to satisfy yourself-- and worse, trying to absolve yourself of the crime by pretending it's for her.

That you are obeying is your attempt to put her wishes before yours, yes, but the moment you disobey, you have started putting yourself before her again. So it is only acceptable for you to obey from beginning to end.

Yes, you should be very ashamed for wanting to masturbate when she told you not to.

Yes, it is possible to get to a state of enlightenment where your penis is not the center of your mind and universe. But is that what your Mistress wants? Or does she delight in your suffering?




Focus50 -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 3:34:16 AM)

Count me as another vote for m & f subs having separate forums.

The word count on "masturbate" must surely be a record.... Yikes! lol

Focus.




Aileen1968 -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 5:23:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Focus50

Count me as another vote for m & f subs having separate forums.

The word count on "masturbate" must surely be a record.... Yikes! lol

Focus.



At least he spelled masturbate correctly.

I am not allowed to masturbate. Obeying is more important to me than getting my rocks off.




kalikshama -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 7:16:18 AM)

Try doing a search on "chastity" by user "Rochsub" = he's written some great posts on the topic.




littlewonder -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 9:06:19 AM)

quit thinking about it and find a hobby. It'll take care of the problem. Go outside, take a walk, smell the fresh air.




poise -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 9:28:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fermat5

Is my desire to masturbate not a tribute to her?
No, because you're still thinking of spanking your monkey as opposed to many other
productive things you could be doing. Three minutes of your life are far more valuable
to be spent thinking entirely of your dick.


Is not the fact that I am obeying proof that I am putting her desires before my own?
Yes, but I have a feeling you'll be disobeying any minute now.
Wait for it............


Should I feel ashamed for wanting to masturbate?
Yes. See Answer #1.

Is it actually possible to remove the desire to masturbate?
Yes. See Answer #1





DesFIP -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 10:36:05 AM)

I think you need to ask her to teach you how to not have any sexual desire. Because you've already stopped the actions. But telling someone not to think about something guarantees it will be the first thing they think about.

Tell her you don't know how to do this and need her to teach you how not to. I'm betting she doesn't know how to, nor is she too knowledgeable about male sexuality. Because men have random thoughts about sex several times an hour. Telling you not to have them isn't very productive unless she can somehow change this.




Fornica -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 11:12:05 AM)

Knit.




JeffBC -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 2:55:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: fermat5
Is it actually possible to remove the desire to masturbate?

Sure it is. That being said, you might want to be aware of some risks if you're talking seriously here and not just some fantasy scene. My marriage councillor said to me, "You might be one of the very few people who can actually do that [dampen down my sexuality]. But be aware that it isn't going to be precise surgery. "

She was exactly correct. Yes, I could damp down my sexuality. No, that wasn't free. The price tag was pretty much all the highs and lows in life. I lived in a grey scale world. Emotions were distant things... rarely felt with any great vigor unless the emotion was anger. In short, in order to get rid of the sex drive I had to excise most of my emotional self. To give an image... I became Vulcan.. for real.. inside and out... not simply an act.

Now, does your mistress really wish that?

She says this desire to masturbate should be eliminated so that I can focus on hers.

Sounds to me like exactly the sort of ridiculous, uneducated quackery that makes it inherently obvious that most people should not be giving or obeying commands about internal mental state. You might stop to think what an actual psychologist would say to that idea. All that being said, go for it dude. It took Carol a good 15 years to make any serious in roads to the damage I'd done myself. But maybe it'll go better for you.




kalikshama -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 3:29:47 PM)

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She says this desire to masturbate should be eliminated so that I can focus on her.


I can't help thinking of yoga master Amrit Desai, who asked all his followers, including the married ones, to practice celibacy and channel their sexual energy into their seva, or selfless service/volunteer work.

He resigned as director of the Kriplalu Yoga Center in 1994, after his extra-marital affairs were made public.




Rochsub2009 -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 4:35:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fermat5

I have been told not to masturbate. This I have no problem with. I enjoy obeying, relinquishing control of my penis and control of my orgasms. However, I still feel the strong urge to masturbate.


And you're going to feel the desire to masturbate. There's something within humans that makes us desire things more once we've been told that we can't have them.

If you're used to masturbating regularly, your body has grown used to frequent sexual release. Once you're told to stop masturbating, it's going to be difficult because you've essentially established a masturbation habit. Breaking any habit takes time. It usually can't be done instantaneously simply because a Domme told you to. Initially, she may need to use a chastity device to help you resist masturbating.

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She says this desire to masturbate should be eliminated so that I can focus on hers.


I've got sad news for her. You may develop the discipline to avoid masturbating, but the desire probably won't go away. The mere fact that you are not allowed to masturbate is going to make you think about it even more than you usually would.

It's like people who go on diets probably find themselves thinking about food MORE, not less.

quote:


Is my desire to masturbate not a tribute to her?


Dude, get real! I know that it sounds noble to say that your masturbation is a tribute to her. But think about it for a moment. What does she get out of your masturbation? Diddly squat, that's what. Your masturbation is all about YOU. It's for your enjoyment. It feels good to you.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but she can't feel all of those wonderful endorphins that are running through your body when you cum due to masturbation. Nope, only you get to feel that sensation. [;)]

quote:


Should I feel ashamed for wanting to masturbate? Is it actually possible to remove the desire to masturbate?


"No" and "no". Why feel ashamed? It's simply biology. Your male body desires to spread your seed and propagate your genetic code. It's the most natural thing in the world for the male of any species. And masturbation feels really good to. [:D]

I doubt that it's possible to remove the desire to masturbate. But it is possible to develop the discipline to not masturbate.

I enjoy forced chastity. But I find that forced chastity without a chastity device is more enjoyable for me. I'm not saying that it's better. Nor am I saying that being able to do it without a device makes me superior. But what I am saying is that for me, it takes a greater degree of discipline and obedience to resist masturbating when She still allows you full access to your cock. When placed in that situation, you have to ask yourself which is stronger, your desire to masturbate or your desire to obey Her? I find that dilemma forces me to truly come face-to-face with how important submission is to me.

To be honest, there have been times when I've masturbated when I wasn't supposed to. But that showed me that I was still placing my own desires ahead of Hers.

It may take time, but eventually you'll learn to subordinate your own desires and make hers preeminent. IMO, there's something very rewarding about obeying your Domme even though you know that the urge to masturbate is just killing you. Learning to obey Her, even when your body is screaming for release, is a critical step towards real submission.

Good luck.




JeffBC -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 4:42:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
I doubt that it's possible to remove the desire to masturbate. But it is possible to develop the discipline to not masturbate.

Nope, it really, truly is possible. Or, at least, it was for me... that and a whole lot more. The price tag for the accomplishment was pretty much "me".




Soyokaze -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 5:02:19 PM)

Hmm, I don't generally have any desire to masturbate. I once went for a couple of months without just on a whim, and when someone requested I not... I just didn't. I like the knitting idea though : p Keeping yourself busy seems like a good idea.




Kaliko -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/7/2012 8:14:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: fermat5

I have been told not to masturbate. This I have no problem with. I enjoy obeying, relinquishing control of my penis and control of my orgasms. However, I still feel the strong urge to masturbate. She says this desire to masturbate should be eliminated so that I can focus on hers.

But my situation is what turns me on. Her orders and the fact that I have sacrificed my orgasms to her are what turns me on. Is my desire to masturbate not a tribute to her? Is not the fact that I am obeying proof that I am putting her desires before my own? Should I feel ashamed for wanting to masturbate? Is it actually possible to remove the desire to masturbate?



I enjoy the suffering. I need to suffer more. Can somebody please tell me to keep my hands off myself?






kalikshama -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/8/2012 7:16:43 AM)

Keep your hands off yourself!

[sm=mistress.gif]




thishereboi -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/8/2012 8:55:33 AM)

quote:

Is not the fact that I am obeying proof that I am putting her desires before my own?
Yes, but I have a feeling you'll be disobeying any minute now.
Wait for it............


I would think that the fact that he started this thread shows his focus is still on his dick.




Nanako -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/18/2012 12:45:02 AM)

stop thinking about sex :p

Consider that you've most likely spent your entire life masturbating regularly, and by this point you ought to be bored of it. If you want to turn your life around and find a domme, you need some willpower, this is a good bit of practise to start.

I'm not sure abuot your situation specifically, but i'm hoping you intend to meet this domme when you've proven yourself to be a decent sub. In that case consider that you're not only putting her desires first, but that your putting your own future, your happiness, and the rest of your life, above the pointless desire to masturbate now.

Look at the big picture and it should be easy to stop caring about something so little.




hellionsLight -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/18/2012 9:41:20 AM)

Maybe, maybe not. I think you can answer your own questions about yourself and your thoughts.

I don't masturbate, really, cause it just doesn't interest me, so...forbidding me to do it really wouldn't be a huge deal.




slaverachel2Him -> RE: Virtual Chastity: Battling urge to masturbate (3/18/2012 12:23:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: fermat5

I have been told not to masturbate. This I have no problem with. I enjoy obeying, relinquishing control of my penis and control of my orgasms. However, I still feel the strong urge to masturbate. She says this desire to masturbate should be eliminated so that I can focus on hers.

But my situation is what turns me on. Her orders and the fact that I have sacrificed my orgasms to her are what turns me on. Is my desire to masturbate not a tribute to her? Is not the fact that I am obeying proof that I am putting her desires before my own? Should I feel ashamed for wanting to masturbate? Is it actually possible to remove the desire to masturbate?


The urge to masturbate is natural, and a reflection of your arousal. Obeying Her is what you are doing and the desire may never go away, the action can go away, but you need to learn to focus your attention to what pleases Her not what pleases you. It is not a "tribute" but a response to arousal. no i don't believe you can remove the desire-but you CAN change your focus so that you are not obsessing on it. You mind will drift back to it, and you can transform that into submission and obedience.




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