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Hillwilliam -> RE: Electric car growing pains (3/14/2012 1:15:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

I own a hybrid - to be exact, a 2010 Honda Insight. Just this past weekend, I drove from my home in the suburbs of Boston to New York City (I was performing at a club in Greenwich Village) and then back again using approx. 3/4 of a tank of gas. My previous vehicle, a 2000 Toyoata RAV4, used to burn a tank and a half of gas or more for the same trip.

I'm all in favor of the Volt or at least a hybrid like a Honda Insight or a Toyota Prius.

Actually, the rise in prices at the gass pump in the U.S. is easily explained - the oil companies who drill within the 50 U.S. States (and immediately off-shore) sell the refined gasoline to India and China, rather than sell it within the U.S. because they can get more money from the Indians and the Chinese. The more we

Capitalism and the quest for profit does not respect national boundries - a true capitalist farmer, for example, would let his own brother or sister who live next door starve if he could get a better price selling the food he grows to a hungry person in Europe or Asia.

Nothing like comparing an apple to an orange to make a point. :-(

Anyone who is all in favor of the Volt is all in favor of Socialism.

Actually, the rise in prices at the gas pump in the U.S. is indeed easily explained -- during his 2008 campaign Obama repeatedly stated that his energy policies would necessarily make the cost of energy skyrocket and Obama appointed as Secretary of Energy a man who said the U.S. should persue energy policies which would increase the cost of gas at the pump to that of Europe ($10/gal and up).

Capitalism and the quest for profit indeed does not respect national boundries - America's capitalist farmers, for example, have for decade after decade provided many times over FREE food to devasted (by natural disaster) and/or starving (due to their communist/socialist governments) countries all over the world than all the communist/socialist farmers of the world COMBINED.

Just when you think things can't get more strange, they get more strange.

Please enlighten us oh racer one how buying an American made car that uses electricity generated in America instead of oil that supports terrorists in the mid-east socialist? That's one of the craziest things I've ever seen in PnR.

As for the farmers, they didn't give that food away. It was purchased from them at market price by someone ELSE who gave it away. Im sorry to burst your bubble but facts matter.




DomKen -> RE: Electric car growing pains (3/14/2012 1:48:43 PM)


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The Volt doesn't need to be plugged in. It just can be charged that way. You could run it as a standard gas/electric hybrid if you wanted you'd just get much worse mpg.



Then really, what's the point of having a car with all those batteries? You may as well get rid of them and increase your mileage by losing the weight, reduce your repair costs by never needing to replace them, and reduce your stress by never worrying if the the car may burst into flames (not something I actually believe is an issue but some do).

Because if the batteries are charged the car doesn't use any gas, at all, for the first 25 to 50 miles of any trip and due to regenerative braking even when running off the gas engine it gets much better mileage than an equivalent pure gas car.

As to replacing the batteries the Volt's battery system is guaranteed by GM for 8 years or 100k miles which compares quite favorably with the mechanical systems in a standard auto.




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