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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/11/2012 10:48:03 PM   
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right.





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When health insurance covers condoms and men have a say in the life or death of unborn children, then i'll pay attention when people complain about this so-called "war on women". One man being an asshole on the radio does not a conspiracy make.


Just a question, not meant to be any sort of attack, but aren't most lawmakers male? And aren't the most vigorous supporters of anti-abortion bills in the Senate and Congress male? If I'm mistaken, then do please feel free to cite sources where I may correct my misapprehensions.





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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/11/2012 11:02:07 PM   
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You're right, I should have been more specific - their own unborn children. To be fair, the argument that because there are men in congress, men have a say in abortion scenarios is much like saying that because there are women in porn, women must like having sex on camera for money. Having a portion, or even a majority, of a very small segment of a group share an attribute does not make that segment analogous to all who share that attribute.

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 1:23:16 AM   
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When health insurance covers condoms and men have a say in the life or death of unborn children, then i'll pay attention when people complain about this so-called "war on women". One man being an asshole on the radio does not a conspiracy make.



This isn't about Rush fuckingLimpballs!! This is the GOP attempt last year to cut off funding to Planned Parenthood, an organization which provides hundreds of cervical and breast cancer screenings to poor women every year. This is about Komen, an organization which raises money for breast cancer research, screenings and treatment, cutting off funding to Planned Parenthood. This is about over 1,000 anti-woman's health bills in the various states being debated in the past year alone!! This is about Rick Santorum saying that contraceptives are not ok because they cause people "to do things in the sexual realm that is not ok'. This is about American women not sitting still while the GOP turns back the clock to 1850!!


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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 1:47:15 AM   
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When health insurance covers condoms and men have a say in the life or death of unborn children, then i'll pay attention when people complain about this so-called "war on women". One man being an asshole on the radio does not a conspiracy make.

but Erectile dysfunction medication is covered..

But the shot i need so i wont bleed to death from my vagina... not covered...

Yeah... That sure makes sense....

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 1:48:13 AM   
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But the specter of female masturbation was far more terrifying. I have read debates between doctors over whether women should be allowed to ride bicycles or whether the pleasure they might induce from the seat made it an unacceptable moral hazard.

Terrifying is the right adjective. So terrifying that, in order to save the world from the menace of female masturbation mania (to give it its correct medical diagnosis) clitordectomonies were carried out on young girls and women well into the 20th century. As an undergrad student, I remember stumbling across a report of such an operation being performed in 1915. It's unlikely that this particular occasion was the last time this 'cure' was performed.

Of course there was no equivalent surgery performed on those poor young boys and men deemed to suffering from 'masturbation mania' ........


Well, female genital mutilation still occurs in some cultures to prevent sex being a pleasurable experience for the woman. It also makes the childbirthing experience even more traumatic physically (read: higher risk of rectovesical & rectovaginal fistulas).

The conservatives keep getting more conservative and the dumb people keep breeding.. the downfall of society is happening before our very eyes!


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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 2:23:23 AM   
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and one does not have to be female to be a feminist....

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 5:55:07 AM   
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When health insurance covers condoms and men have a say in the life or death of unborn children, then i'll pay attention when people complain about this so-called "war on women". One man being an asshole on the radio does not a conspiracy make.


Do you have a mother? Sisters? Aunts? Nieces? Or does your entire family consist of only men? (And how exactly did all of you get here without women?)

You can choose to protect your family, your community as you define them. But understand that men do not form a family or community entirely by themselves.

If you allow women to be subjugated, you know what you end up with? You end up with societies like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

At one point in history, Ayatollah Khomeini was just some nut case talking about Islamic theocracy. And then they took down the Shah of Iran and actually made Iran a theocracy. And part of that platform was the subjugation of women. And now no one, male or female, has much freedom there.

You can either fight injustice where it exists, or be one of the many who just follow along until....oops....suddenly you're living in a place that is unrecognizable to you, and where freedoms of any sort for either gender exist no more.

Again, if you think this is far fetched, read some world history. Rights come and go depending on which group is able to seize control. If you give away hard earned rights, bit by bit you end up somewhere that no one, even you, wants to be. History has proven time and time again that complacency is NEVER a good approach.

You want to wait until a real war to react? By then, it will be too late. Just ask anyone of Persian heritage who lives in the U.S. about how lucky they feel to have gotten out in time.


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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 7:29:58 AM   
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When health insurance covers condoms and men have a say in the life or death of unborn children, then i'll pay attention when people complain about this so-called "war on women". One man being an asshole on the radio does not a conspiracy make.


Do you have a mother? Sisters? Aunts? Nieces? Or does your entire family consist of only men? (And how exactly did all of you get here without women?)

You can choose to protect your family, your community as you define them. But understand that men do not form a family or community entirely by themselves.

If you allow women to be subjugated, you know what you end up with? You end up with societies like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

At one point in history, Ayatollah Khomeini was just some nut case talking about Islamic theocracy. And then they took down the Shah of Iran and actually made Iran a theocracy. And part of that platform was the subjugation of women. And now no one, male or female, has much freedom there.

You can either fight injustice where it exists, or be one of the many who just follow along until....oops....suddenly you're living in a place that is unrecognizable to you, and where freedoms of any sort for either gender exist no more.

Again, if you think this is far fetched, read some world history. Rights come and go depending on which group is able to seize control. If you give away hard earned rights, bit by bit you end up somewhere that no one, even you, wants to be. History has proven time and time again that complacency is NEVER a good approach.

You want to wait until a real war to react? By then, it will be too late. Just ask anyone of Persian heritage who lives in the U.S. about how lucky they feel to have gotten out in time.

That (freedoms for either gender exist no more) has already happened in the US, in great part due to 9/11, the Patriot Act and other similar govt bs laws,.. but it was happening slowly before that also.. 9/11 just gave the govt the green light to go gung ho on stripping your rights and you let them cuz to disagree you would be labeled a terrorist.. jmnsho..

Speaking about anyone of Persian heritage living in the US.. they have a new reality show! The Shahs of Sunset

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 10:38:53 AM   
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That (freedoms for either gender exist no more) has already happened in the US, in great part due to 9/11, the Patriot Act and other similar govt bs laws,.. but it was happening slowly before that also.. 9/11 just gave the govt the green light to go gung ho on stripping your rights and you let them cuz to disagree you would be labeled a terrorist.. jmnsho..

Speaking about anyone of Persian heritage living in the US.. they have a new reality show! The Shahs of Sunset


Yes, tj, you'll get no disagreement from me that our rights are already eroding. I really think complacency is not a good thing.



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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 12:41:15 PM   
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But the specter of female masturbation was far more terrifying. I have read debates between doctors over whether women should be allowed to ride bicycles or whether the pleasure they might induce from the seat made it an unacceptable moral hazard.



It does!



Okay, seriously (well, a bit more seriously)

When I was growing up there were two kinds of bikes... boy's bikes and girl's bikes. The only real difference (besides that a lot of girl's bikes were pink) was the bar which ran from the seat to the front of the bike. Boy's bikes had it, girl's bikes did not (giving the bike a funny V shape). I wonder if the above attitude had something to do with it because it never made sense to me. What if you have to slam the brakes suddenly or hit a tree and lurch forward? I mean, why does the one with the balls, get the bar? It should have been the other way around!

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 12:54:07 PM   
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When I was growing up there were two kinds of bikes... boy's bikes and girl's bikes. The only real difference (besides that a lot of girl's bikes were pink) was the bar which ran from the seat to the front of the bike. Boy's bikes had it, girl's bikes did not (giving the bike a funny V shape). I wonder if the above attitude had something to do with it because it never made sense to me. What if you have to slam the brakes suddenly or hit a tree and lurch forward? I mean, why does the one with the balls, get the bar? It should have been the other way around!


Yeah. I never understood that either. But it might be because they knew boys would be jumping their bikes over whatever they could find and the extra support was needed to avoid lawsuits as well as provide boys with a reason not to do that.

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 12:59:36 PM   
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When I was growing up there were two kinds of bikes... boy's bikes and girl's bikes. The only real difference (besides that a lot of girl's bikes were pink) was the bar which ran from the seat to the front of the bike. Boy's bikes had it, girl's bikes did not (giving the bike a funny V shape). I wonder if the above attitude had something to do with it because it never made sense to me. What if you have to slam the brakes suddenly or hit a tree and lurch forward? I mean, why does the one with the balls, get the bar? It should have been the other way around!


Yeah. I never understood that either. But it might be because they knew boys would be jumping their bikes over whatever they could find and the extra support was needed to avoid lawsuits as well as provide boys with a reason not to do that.

I wondered the same thing. It's good to know I wasn't alone.

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 1:02:59 PM   
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its cause girls wear skirts...you dirty rotten scoundrels would love a bar on girl bikes aye? Hoppin on wavin their fannies at ya.

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 1:08:41 PM   
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The reason for the difference in design is simple. Girls wear skirts. They need the space so the skirt hangs decently and confortably. Boys wear trousers and do not need the space. the bar is there to make the frame stronger.

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 1:32:04 PM   
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its cause girls wear skirts...you dirty rotten scoundrels would love a bar on girl bikes aye? Hoppin on wavin their fannies at ya.


So the sexism of society denied me some good peep moments when I was growing up? Damnit!

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 1:40:05 PM   
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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 5:01:08 PM   
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Funny!!

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 5:21:51 PM   
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two hours in the dryer?   if it is polyester, you are just beating off.....

i am sure i could find a few quilts to throw in.. they always take a long time to dry..

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Amazing isn't it. This same mindset is why women also rode sidesaddle, when they learned to ride horses at all.


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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 5:28:22 PM   
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Amazing isn't it. This same mindset is why women also rode sidesaddle, when they learned to ride horses at all.


Women have not always ridden side saddle.
That being said I have seen women going over the fences side saddle and passing men in the process. It is beyond me how they manage that feat of atheleticism...ridership of the first order.

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RE: History of vibrator and how it relates to today's w... - 3/12/2012 5:30:46 PM   
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You're right, I should have been more specific - their own unborn children. To be fair, the argument that because there are men in congress, men have a say in abortion scenarios is much like saying that because there are women in porn, women must like having sex on camera for money. Having a portion, or even a majority, of a very small segment of a group share an attribute does not make that segment analogous to all who share that attribute.


With the ability to reason in such a fashion why did you pick the name einstien?

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