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Moonhead -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/12/2012 11:28:32 AM)

Most of the idiots who are toting this crap aren't even going from the anthropologists in the first place, sadly. Terence McKenna's "Time Wave Zero" bullshit seems to be a lot more widely read by doomsayers than the Mayan Codices or anything that wasn't cooked up by a mushroom fiend and an Atari ST in the early '90s...



SternSkipper -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/12/2012 6:47:48 PM)

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When consumer zombies turn biological I will not be here.


I thought it was kinda sad when they accidentally killed Bill Murray in Zombieland



SternSkipper -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/12/2012 6:53:16 PM)

Terence McKenna ... Was a lot more entertaining when he was running around the amazon looking for a good buzz

http://deoxy.org/mckenna.htm



daddyneedsluv -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 3:42:09 PM)

I find it funny how man kind looks forward to the end of anything and everything. The greatest humor can be found in all the infighting that goes on with all of the different groups of people. They all want to be right and they make sure that everyone else knows that they're wrong. I laugh at all of the people commenting here about how stupid the "Doomsday" crowd is; knowing that a good chunk of people believe the world will end when Christ returns. It's hilarious to me.

I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, but the truth is out there if people would shut their mouths and open their eyes. Regardless of what sector the "Doom and Gloom Prophesy" comes from, it is all a great control mechanism. I say control because I know very few people that actually LIVE their life to be safe or welcoming of said DOOM.




SternSkipper -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 5:06:43 PM)

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They all want to be right and they make sure that everyone else knows that they're wrong.


Remember that thought as you shop... You can fin the heavy duty stuff right over here

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daddyneedsluv -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 8:40:29 PM)

I'm not sure if you're a salesman for aluminum foil or if you are trying to say something that makes absolutely no sense. Just in case you were cracking a joke, ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! I found that funny, so I figured I would share.
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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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They all want to be right and they make sure that everyone else knows that they're wrong.


Remember that thought as you shop... You can fin the heavy duty stuff right over here

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SternSkipper -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 9:01:35 PM)

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I'm not sure if you're a salesman for aluminum foil


Think hats[:D]



xssve -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 9:23:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: Winterapple
The Mayans were cool a civilization, pity
so much of the attention on them is about
nonsense instead of the achievements
and beauty of their civilization.



Didn't that civilization include routine human sacrifice?

To the topic directly; 30 years ago, the same kind of people were building survivalist camps in the woods. 30 years before that, bomb shelters in the basement. There is always some looming catastrophe for people so inclined to latch onto.

Personally, I try to keep some supplies on hand in the event of a major earthquake. I suppose they'd come in handy after a comet strike, too.

That was the Aztecs, the Mayans just fell into the usual Narcissistic death spiral of corruption and madness among the ruling class that appears to be the fate of all civilizations.

Interestingly, in the case the Mayan civilization, it seems like they all just said fuck it, and walked away - there was no like, big disaster or anything, they just blew it off.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 9:37:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Funny thing that these doomsday fanatics seem to ignore about the Mayan Calendar. The most important part of what they have ignored is the simple fact IT DOES NOT END.

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The Mayas didn’t believe the world would end on 2012. In fact, cities like Palenque have carvings with celebratory dates like 1.0.0.0.0.8, which is over 4000 years after 2012.

Source


There are other interesting facts the article addresses, including statements from modern Mayans who still follow the old traditions.

I have been watching a show on NGC called "Doomsday Preppers" and have heard all kinds of stuff they are preparing for, ranging from over population of the world to EMP from either nuclear war or a solar flare, not to mention the government declaring martial law and evicting people from their homes and denying them food and water.

Doomsday Preppers seem to have turned the whole thing into a psuedo religion, trying to convert friends and neighbors with their rampant paranoia.


I heard next Thursday was gonna be a son of a bitch.



MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 9:57:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012



I'm looking forward to it... I'm guessing the Dept. Stores will be having an "End of the World" super sale!!! [:D]




Winterapple -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/13/2012 10:08:08 PM)

FR
There are still Maya people in Mexico
and Central America. Many speak a
Mayan language as their primary language.
Google says between 750,000 to
1,200,000 speak a Mayan language
in Mexice.
When you travel to the Yucaton Penisula
you encounter any number of people
who identify as Maya.
Mayans, Aztecs and Incans all practiced
human sacrifice.



Moonhead -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/14/2012 5:29:09 AM)

By their lights, the Spanish practised human sacrifice as well...



jlf1961 -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/14/2012 3:18:52 PM)

What surprises me, and it probably shouldn't is the varied reasons given to prepare for doomsday. I admit I am a survivalist, and have a good supply of food and have a water well for water in case of emergency.

Ideally, I would live in a remote area in a monolithic dome home that is almost disaster proof. But that is not for survivalist reasons that is just because I like remote areas.

So far on the show the reasons given include:
Martial Law with a government take over of housing, food and water.
EMP pulse caused by a nuclear blast in the atmosphere.
EMP pulse caused by a solar magnetic storm
Pandemic
Economic collapse
Over population
world wide catastrophe on 21 Dec 2012 (the guy claiming that one is building a condo complex underground and selling units for 1.5 million. Completion date is expected in JANUARY 2013
Yellowstone Super Volcano eruption. Geologists expect a minor fissure type eruption in the next 200 years with a big blast in the next 50000 years
Magnetic Polar shift. Geologists have determined that this has only happened during the periods where there was only one super continant



Moonhead -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/14/2012 3:21:02 PM)

Given that they're going on Terence McKenna rather than the Mayans, do you really expect them to have a story straight?



jlf1961 -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/14/2012 4:15:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Given that they're going on Terence McKenna rather than the Mayans, do you really expect them to have a story straight?



Considering what I have read of the man, I would say he was a nut of the highest order, or just suffering from one too many bad trips



Moonhead -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/15/2012 6:38:43 AM)

All of this "the Azteck calender is running out" nonsense is something he cooked up in the early '90s. I suspect that DMT was involved, as he spent most of the '90s whittering about that stuff.



jlf1961 -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/15/2012 1:49:17 PM)

Actually the first thing that was ever written about the Mayan calender was in the book Chariots of the Gods, since the Mayans had a prophecy that the gods were due to return on the end date of the calender.



Moonhead -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/15/2012 2:42:01 PM)

It's years since I read that one, to be honest. That's probably where McKenna got the idea from in the first place. It's a bit of a stoner book, isn't it?
(I quite like the "stoned ape" notion, but this other thing is bullshit. Mixing the Mayans and the I Ching? Yeah, right...)



jlf1961 -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/15/2012 3:42:57 PM)

Actually the book is almost a bible for UFO believers



xssve -> RE: Doomsday Fanatics and the Mayan Religious Calender and 2012 (3/15/2012 4:33:39 PM)

I hate that shit, the history channel is running that bullshit nonstop now - it's like they're saying, "humans are too stupid to have built the pyramids".

There are aliens, they're rednecks, cruising in the interstellar equivalent of monster trucks, and they only stop here to cut up some cows for a barbecue and anally probe chicks in trailer parks - I know, they left one of their beer cans.



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