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ORIGINAL: Owner59

If these sluty men are going to want you and me and the taxpayer........to pay for them to have sex pills.......then we`ll make`m a deal......they will have to video the limp-dick sex and post online so we can watch........and laugh.......

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

If it is OK to make birth control pills and rubbers free then they should also make viagra free...

Butch

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

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self-made man?

There is no such thing as a "self-made man". Nobody does it completely on their own. Some take out loans to get their businesses started, some get money from mommy and daddy or other relatives, a lot go the Small Business Administration for start-up help. All of them use the roads and bridges my tax dollars helped to finance, they use the electrical grid my tax dollars helped to finance, they take advantage of the water, sewer and other municipal services my tax dollars helped pay for. In the case of Romney, he got rich using other people's money and laying off a bunch of people who needed those jobs to feed their families. So no, even Romney didn't do it "all by himself".

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
OMG, DS.  I have been talking to you like you were an informed adult.  My mistake.
First of all, ALL states, including, even, Ohio, have a "say" in what insurance companies cover and what they charge.  Here is a link to the Ohio insurance commissioner's office.  http://www.insurance.ohio.gov/Pages/default.aspx   I am assuming you had no problem with this state of affairs, if you even knew about it,  until (gasp) Obama introduced his proposal regarding coverage of birth control with no copay.

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This whole conversation started with a discussion of mandatory ultrasounds that, as I am sure you are aware, are not required in Ohio.  If it wasn't of concern to you, since it didn't involve the feds or Ohio, why did you bother to comment at all?  You certainly didn't express your belief that Kansas was wrong mandating such a thing, in fact, I would describe your comments as approving.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
While I understand their anger over the bills that have been popping up lately, I don't see how spending hours making up fake bills is going to help. Why not spend all that time and energy trying to fix things instead of standing around talking about how stupid the other side is.

Yeah, like the transvaginal bill, the blunt amendment bill, the other hundreds of bills that are liable to be unconstitutional( state mandated rape for example of women considering an abortion). That is why... with all the bad bills that have been walked back by republicans, why didnt they make sure it was liable to pass before writing it???
you obviously DONT get the anger over the bills.
fixing things also means challenging laws that are punitive and are fucking with women who are wanting choices. if you dont like the way things are done, you can protest and work towards changing draconian measures for only half the population. what a concept

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
While I understand their anger over the bills that have been popping up lately, I don't see how spending hours making up fake bills is going to help. Why not spend all that time and energy trying to fix things instead of standing around talking about how stupid the other side is.

Because they (government, not the several women introducing the bills specifically) are the problem. The only way to truly fix the problem is to remove the cause, and, if nothing else, a politician (most members, regardless of party affiliation) are all about securing their own jobs until they retire.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

While I understand their anger over the bills that have been popping up lately, I don't see how spending hours making up fake bills is going to help. Why not spend all that time and energy trying to fix things instead of standing around talking about how stupid the other side is.

Well......sometimes children need corner time and to have their toys taken away for a while to make them behave.......

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

limits on Viagra

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

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self-made man?

There is no such thing as a "self-made man". Nobody does it completely on their own. Some take out loans to get their businesses started, some get money from mommy and daddy or other relatives, a lot go the Small Business Administration for start-up help. All of them use the roads and bridges my tax dollars helped to finance, they use the electrical grid my tax dollars helped to finance, they take advantage of the water, sewer and other municipal services my tax dollars helped pay for. In the case of Romney, he got rich using other people's money and laying off a bunch of people who needed those jobs to feed their families. So no, even Romney didn't do it "all by himself".

Whew. Thank you fro doing your part in funding everyone's American Dreams. It's a good think Mitt, the Romney's, and their business ventures didn't have to pay any of the taxes you paid. What would we do without the benevolence you have shown?

Oh, yeah...he paid his taxes, too. Care to take a guess as to who paid more?

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

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If you have a medically necessary need and your physician/OB/GYN won't prescribe it, it is either not medically necessary (in which case it wouldn't fit this situation in the first place), it would cause greater harm,

Sometimes doctors miss things, make mistakes. The VA is notorious for misdiagnoses and the like. It's not the VA the Korean War vets came home to. Like Kali said in the above post--4 other doctors considered her medication to be medically necessary but the VA did not. My son's best friend was injured in Afghanistan and the VA won't treat him, won't even give him a diagnosis. Without a diagnosis, he can not get full disability benefits. And bare in mind, those same doctors have told him he can not work, he can not lift more that 10 lbs. and that he should avoid stress as much as possible. And he got a medical discharge. But according to VA, there is really nothing wrong with him, i.e., no diagnosis.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

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If you have a medically necessary need and your physician/OB/GYN won't prescribe it, it is either not medically necessary (in which case it wouldn't fit this situation in the first place), it would cause greater harm,

Sometimes doctors miss things, make mistakes. The VA is notorious for misdiagnoses and the like. It's not the VA the Korean War vets came home to. Like Kali said in the above post--4 other doctors considered her medication to be medically necessary but the VA did not. My son's best friend was injured in Afghanistan and the VA won't treat him, won't even give him a diagnosis. Without a diagnosis, he can not get full disability benefits. And bare in mind, those same doctors have told him he can not work, he can not lift more that 10 lbs. and that he should avoid stress as much as possible. And he got a medical discharge. But according to VA, there is really nothing wrong with him, i.e., no diagnosis.

Yes, the VA can be extremely fucked up. I can hardly wait until we have one health care system so everyone will be be able to experience the same shitty care that the vets get now. Of course at that point you won't be able to go find a good doctor when the one you go to won't authorize your prescription, you will just have to suck it up or go out of the country for your meds.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

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self-made man?

There is no such thing as a "self-made man". Nobody does it completely on their own. Some take out loans to get their businesses started, some get money from mommy and daddy or other relatives, a lot go the Small Business Administration for start-up help. All of them use the roads and bridges my tax dollars helped to finance, they use the electrical grid my tax dollars helped to finance, they take advantage of the water, sewer and other municipal services my tax dollars helped pay for. In the case of Romney, he got rich using other people's money and laying off a bunch of people who needed those jobs to feed their families. So no, even Romney didn't do it "all by himself".

Whew. Thank you fro doing your part in funding everyone's American Dreams. It's a good think Mitt, the Romney's, and their business ventures didn't have to pay any of the taxes you paid. What would we do without the benevolence you have shown?
Oh, yeah...he paid his taxes, too. Care to take a guess as to who paid more?

You mean myth.....

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If you could go somewhere else and do as good a business as you can do here......... in our American business environment....then you might have a point.
But you can`t because we here in America have one of the best/least corrupt and least taxed markets in the world.
Our success is due in part to the roads bridges and highways,power grids and infrastructures as well as the police and courts and military who keep the 1st world relatively drama free...which we all chip in for.

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And no one is successful all by themselves.......they need a market as huge and as vast as ours to sell their goods/services to become successful in.....in the first place.
Nobody is successful in a vacuum......no man(or woman) is an island.
Acknowledging these realities is more about knowing what success requires...... rather than your fantasy fairytale about the American dream is.

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Again, I am not faulting the guy, but actually, I am pretty sure his dad gave him more than mine did when I was growing up. Plus, what you are not taking into account is coming from a well off family gives you more than just cash in your pocket. Like better educational opportunities, a better network and contacts. To name a few things.

Moving past that, the way he earned his money is a little unsavory to me. And I do fault him for that.

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If it is OK to make birth control pills and rubbers free then they should also make viagra free..

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Okay...I want everyone who's pissed at Romney for canning people and killing company's that weren't profitable....tomorrow....to head to your favorite grocery store (or any store, for that matter) and I want you to buy 10 of the worst product in the store.

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Okay...I want everyone who's pissed at Romney for canning people and killing company's that weren't profitable....tomorrow....to head to your favorite grocery store (or any store, for that matter) and I want you to buy 10 of the worst product in the store.

You don't have clue one how or where Bain gets it's prospects. Or perhaps you can name the company that feeds them their success stories?

He's a Wall Street pussy

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Me? I'd give some heavy consideration to moving my new place at LEAST down the block, and at minimum, to a state or city that doesn't tend to send my house flying in pieces over to the yellow brick road.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)