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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 1:39:24 PM   
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If it were up to this guy, BDSM would be outlawed, and there are people on this website that support this idiot.


YES! YES! This message cannot be repeated often enough.

Do the fools who defend this creep, or the 1100 odd anti-women bills the GOP is try to legislate think for a moment that BDSM people are not on the hit list of the moral police? Do they think for a minute that Frothy Mix et al aren't going to come after you because you supported him? Are they deluded enough to think that this support will make them immune from the hate?

The Religious Right will be targeting any one who falls outside their narrow medieval view of what constitutes 'proper' sexual conduct (ie unsafe Male-female intercourse - they don't like the word 'sex' - only in marriage bed) You can stake your sex life that BDSM and kink will be high on their hit list. Vote for this creep and you will be doing just that - staking your sex life on it.

That makes every single one of us their enemy, whether we like it or not. Those of us into compulsory chastity might possibly be the sole exception.


I have often wondered how people involved in BDSM in any sort of real way could possibly be socially conservative. Again, just another example of people voting against self-interest.

Yet again, it's left to the liberals to protect the rights of everyone else, even those who don't realize they need to protect their rights. Will it ever end?


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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 1:43:49 PM   
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I have often wondered how people involved in BDSM in any sort of real way could possibly be socially conservative. Again, just another example of people voting against self-interest.

Yet again, it's left to the liberals to protect the rights of everyone else, even those who don't realize they need to protect their rights. Will it ever end?


Think '50's household'. there's no whips, no chains, no kinky sex, just an obedient little Stepford wife who waits on hubby hand and foot.

That aspect of WIITWD would fall right in line with the far right.

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 1:51:37 PM   
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Yanno,it just occurred to me there are no,none that I know of anyway,Domme conservatives
Not so surprising when you think about it,wields a whip, enjoys seeing her man crawl on the floor....nope,not conservative at all

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 1:55:12 PM   
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True dat mike. How, then do you explain conservative, heterosexual male subs? We have a few here. It would seem that the conservative mindset wouldn't allow for any of that female superiority silliness. (personally, I think it's bunk too ).

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 1:57:52 PM   
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I have often wondered how people involved in BDSM in any sort of real way could possibly be socially conservative. Again, just another example of people voting against self-interest.

Yet again, it's left to the liberals to protect the rights of everyone else, even those who don't realize they need to protect their rights. Will it ever end?


Think '50's household'. there's no whips, no chains, no kinky sex, just an obedient little Stepford wife who waits on hubby hand and foot.

That aspect of WIITWD would fall right in line with the far right.

Yes, the "50s household" would - although without any of the other bells and whistles that we would think of as BDSM.

Interestingly, I don't actually think of 50s household, in and of itself, as being particularly BDSM. Just my perspective, but I feel that a household structure that has been prevalent in many parts of the world (husband as head of household) does not constitute BDSM. It's just a traditional family structure. I know lots of vanilla people who would fit a 50s household structure (e.g. my grandparents) who had NOTHING to do with BDSM. i.e., husband works, wife stays home and looks after children and household, husband makes major decisions -- what does this have to do with BDSM per se?

So, I realize there is a group out there who are into 50s household, but if that is all you are into, I'm hard pressed to feel that that really constitutes BDSM. I also don't equate D/s with 50s household, because D/s is simply a generic term that can be applied to any number of relationships and power structures (i.e., could be two gay men, two lesbian women, a Dominant woman and a submissive man - and NONE of those structures have anything to do with 50s household).

I know I'm going to get flack for this, but I really just don't feel it is the same as what I consider BDSM as has evolved from Marquis de Sade, The Story of O, and those sorts of things that involve concepts around power exchange, s&m, bondage, etc - all of which do not have to be part of a "50s household" structure.



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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 2:05:38 PM   
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Does this mean that pictures of the Statue of David will be banned too?

Those who are quick to assert that the Supreme Court cannot ban "obscenities" (what ever that may mean) because of the 1st amendment might want to review this case: Miller vs. California. There is a precedent here, and the grey area is rather large. If Santorum wanted to aggressively pursue this (I think he would) then he could realistically ban pornography.

Also, Santorum could conceivably return the sodomy laws back to the States, but that would create a monster legal challenge since the court over-ruled states rights in Lawrence vs. Texas.

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 3:38:33 PM   
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True dat mike. How, then do you explain conservative, heterosexual male subs? We have a few here. It would seem that the conservative mindset wouldn't allow for any of that female superiority silliness. (personally, I think it's bunk too ).



I can explain it very easily, you guys on the left don't know shit about conservatives, or conservative values... The religious right are a small minority of the conservatives, and most of us want government out of our lives, period! As in it's nobodies business what we do in private... Thats how REAL conservatives think, which isn't voting against our best interest... That's the socialistic progressive party, voting against their own interests because they want their free shit from the gubbamint.

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 3:48:29 PM   
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I can explain it very easily, you guys on the left don't know shit about conservatives, or conservative values... The religious right are a small minority of the conservatives, and most of us want government out of our lives, period! As in it's nobodies business what we do in private... Thats how REAL conservatives think, which isn't voting against our best interest... That's the socialistic progressive party, voting against their own interests because they want their free shit from the gubbamint.


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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 3:54:23 PM   
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True dat mike. How, then do you explain conservative, heterosexual male subs? We have a few here. It would seem that the conservative mindset wouldn't allow for any of that female superiority silliness. (personally, I think it's bunk too ).



I can explain it very easily, you guys on the left don't know shit about conservatives, or conservative values... The religious right are a small minority of the conservatives, and most of us want government out of our lives, period! As in it's nobodies business what we do in private... Thats how REAL conservatives think, which isn't voting against our best interest... That's the socialistic progressive party, voting against their own interests because they want their free shit from the gubbamint.


I don't think the religious right are the only social conservatives. I know plenty of people who are social conservatives but who are not the religious right.

You can define your own brand of conservatism however you want. But you can't claim all social conservatives are the religious right. Simply not so.


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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 3:55:13 PM   
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True dat mike. How, then do you explain conservative, heterosexual male subs? We have a few here. It would seem that the conservative mindset wouldn't allow for any of that female superiority silliness. (personally, I think it's bunk too ).

Put me down as one of those that believes "Female superiority" is nothing more than bullshit.
I have met many a woman who I would never kneel before....by the same token I feel "Male superiority" is also so much bullshit.
What I choose to do with the woman I choose to do it with has nothing to do with inherent gender roles...it is just what we choose to do with each other.Nothing more,nothing less

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 4:11:04 PM   
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That's put us that much closer to Iran. Maybe Frothy would implement burkas with veils for women in public?

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 4:37:09 PM   
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True dat mike. How, then do you explain conservative, heterosexual male subs? We have a few here. It would seem that the conservative mindset wouldn't allow for any of that female superiority silliness. (personally, I think it's bunk too ).



I can explain it very easily, you guys on the left don't know shit about conservatives, or conservative values... The religious right are a small minority of the conservatives, and most of us want government out of our lives, period! As in it's nobodies business what we do in private... Thats how REAL conservatives think, which isn't voting against our best interest... That's the socialistic progressive party, voting against their own interests because they want their free shit from the gubbamint.


Believe me,we know what cons are about.It fits on a match cover......


Fighting tooth and nail to extend bush`s trillion dollar tax cuts to rich people.......while we shlubs make up the difference.....


Tell us how that`s in your`s or anybody`s interest?



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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 4:51:08 PM   
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I can explain it very easily, you guys on the left don't know shit about conservatives, or conservative values... The religious right are a small minority of the conservatives, and most of us want government out of our lives, period! As in it's nobodies business what we do in private... Thats how REAL conservatives think, which isn't voting against our best interest... That's the socialistic progressive party, voting against their own interests because they want their free shit from the gubbamint.


Yes!


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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 5:11:57 PM   
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Please then.......move to a better country with a better deal already.........

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 6:01:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

True dat mike. How, then do you explain conservative, heterosexual male subs? We have a few here. It would seem that the conservative mindset wouldn't allow for any of that female superiority silliness. (personally, I think it's bunk too ).



I can explain it very easily, you guys on the left don't know shit about conservatives, or conservative values... The religious right are a small minority of the conservatives, and most of us want government out of our lives, period! As in it's nobodies business what we do in private... Thats how REAL conservatives think, which isn't voting against our best interest... That's the socialistic progressive party, voting against their own interests because they want their free shit from the gubbamint.


I don't think the religious right are the only social conservatives. I know plenty of people who are social conservatives but who are not the religious right.

You can define your own brand of conservatism however you want. But you can't claim all social conservatives are the religious right. Simply not so.


Read what I wrote, I didn't claim that, and I don't believe in God, or Jesus, or any invisible saviors.

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 6:03:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

True dat mike. How, then do you explain conservative, heterosexual male subs? We have a few here. It would seem that the conservative mindset wouldn't allow for any of that female superiority silliness. (personally, I think it's bunk too ).



I can explain it very easily, you guys on the left don't know shit about conservatives, or conservative values... The religious right are a small minority of the conservatives, and most of us want government out of our lives, period! As in it's nobodies business what we do in private... Thats how REAL conservatives think, which isn't voting against our best interest... That's the socialistic progressive party, voting against their own interests because they want their free shit from the gubbamint.


Believe me,we know what cons are about.It fits on a match cover......


Fighting tooth and nail to extend bush`s trillion dollar tax cuts to rich people.......while we shlubs make up the difference.....


Tell us how that`s in your`s or anybody`s interest?




No, you don't... You really don't

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 6:17:17 PM   
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Oh yes.....yes we do.....

That`s why you can`t tell us what our interest in your party`s trillion dollar givaways to rich people,is.

Then there was the looney terrorist in the DOJ whacko thing you were pushing.....



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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 9:18:17 PM   
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Oh yes.....yes we do.....

That`s why you can`t tell us what our interest in your party`s trillion dollar givaways to rich people,is.

Then there was the looney terrorist in the DOJ whacko thing you were pushing.....




Lets talk about spending, shall we?
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How do Bush and Obama compare on closer inspection? Just about like they do on an initial glance. According to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, during his eight fiscal years, Bush ran up a total of $3.283 trillion in deficit spending (p. 22). In his first two fiscal years, Obama will run up a total of $2.826 trillion in deficit spending ($1.294 trillion in 2010, an estimated $1.267 trillion in 2011 (p. 23), and the $265 billion in “stimulus” money that was spent in 2009). Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush.

Obama, of course, has said the economy made him do it. But the average inflation-adjusted deficits through Obama’s first two fiscal years will be more than ten times higher than the average inflation-adjusted deficit during the Great Depression. Even as a percentage of the gross domestic product, the average deficits in Obama’s first two fiscal years will more than three times higher the average deficit during the Great Depression. The fact that Obama’s deficits have, by any standard, more than tripled those of the Great Depression, cannot convincingly be blamed on the current recession.

And none of this even takes into account Obamacare, which the Congressional Budget Office says would increase spending by more than $2 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) — and which, even under very rosy projections, the CBO says would increase the national debt by $341 billion by the end of 2019.

http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/who-spent-more-average-bush-vs-average-obama-spending-per-day-proves-obama-most-reckless-and-irresponsible-ever/

We get it, you progressives hate rich people, and feel you deserve their money... Like I said, you don't know shit about conservatives, you just covet what we have.

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 9:24:10 PM   
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Wow. Talk about not getting it.

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RE: Ricky wants to ban porn....... - 3/16/2012 9:56:40 PM   
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Yet again, it's left to the liberals to protect the rights of everyone else, even those who don't realize they need to protect their rights. Will it ever end?



Maybe you missed it, FTP, but the laws that endanger us BDSM types came from the fucking liberals! Our potential legal nightmares in the kink community are just an unintended consequence of distant do-gooders deciding they know what is best, and how best to enforce their wisdom upon us. Liberals are who we need protecting from.

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