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“I don’t care what the liberals say, I don’t care what the naysayers say, this nation was founded as a Christian nation,” Mr. Terry said.

“There’s only one God, and his name is Jesus,” he continued. “I’m tired of people telling me that I can’t say those words. I’m tired of people telling us as Christians that we can’t voice our beliefs or we can no longer pray in public. Listen to me. If you don’t love America, if you don’t like the way we do things I have one thing to say — get out!”

Thunderous applause interrupted him before he went on.

Source: New York Times

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ORIGINAL: LoreBook

That's an interesting list, but something came to me while reading it. Change Christian to Hindu and put the speaker in India and most of it applies, make it a Muslim in Indonesia or Turkey and most of it applies.

So I think its less a case of "Christian" Privilege than "Majority Religion" Privilege. When looked at in that light it seems a little less worrisome to me.

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ORIGINAL: LoreBook
That's an interesting list, but something came to me while reading it. Change Christian to Hindu and put the speaker in India and most of it applies, make it a Muslim in Indonesia or Turkey and most of it applies.

So I think its less a case of "Christian" Privilege than "Majority Religion" Privilege. When looked at in that light it seems a little less worrisome to me.

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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38

Generally, this privilege is actually the source of the false sense of oppression that many Christians feel. In a democracy there must to some extent be a certain privilege to majoritarian traditions (Christmas is a Federal holiday, but Yom Kippur is not) and in the United States a vague Christianity is properly normative. Nevertheless, a human rights based democracy must equally insist this privilege is limited to unimportant matters (no group can have any special claim to the law, the political process, and economic opportunity and so on). An intelligence and respectful majority also recognizes it is the recipient of some privilege and acts in a magnanimous fashion allowing non-majoritarian groups certain rights not seemly if applied to the majoritarian group (this is why the NAACP is legitimate, but a white rights group is not). Obviously, this is a complicated question.

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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38

Generally, this privilege is actually the source of the false sense of oppression that many Christians feel. In a democracy there must to some extent be a certain privilege to majoritarian traditions (Christmas is a Federal holiday, but Yom Kippur is not) and in the United States a vague Christianity is properly normative. Nevertheless, a human rights based democracy must equally insist this privilege is limited to unimportant matters (no group can have any special claim to the law, the political process, and economic opportunity and so on). An intelligence and respectful majority also recognizes it is the recipient of some privilege and acts in a magnanimous fashion allowing non-majoritarian groups certain rights not seemly if applied to the majoritarian group (this is why the NAACP is legitimate, but a white rights group is not). Obviously, this is a complicated question.

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Sure, it's not unique to Chistianity or even just a religious thing if you want to start looking at patterns. There's male privilege, white privilege, heterosexual privilege, etc. Thing is none of that changes the fact that in my country Christian Privilege is awful.

That's very true, I wasn't meaning to try deny the problem here, it was just an observation that popped into my head while reading your list.

I agree that Christian Privilege is getting worse here, especially since we, unlike so many other countries, were specifically founded as a non-denominational country. I'm sure that if I was a practising Jew, I'd find it even more troubling.

Edited to remove an extra "I'm sure".

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Generally, this privilege is actually the source of the false sense of oppression that many Christians feel.

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani
Come join my church of cannabis.

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ORIGINAL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_spiritual_use_of_cannabis
Sacramental, religious and spiritual use of cannabis refers to cannabis used in a religious or spiritual context. Cannabis has an ancient history of ritual usage as an aid to trance and has been traditionally used in a religious context throughout the Old World.

Herodotus wrote about early ceremonial practices by the Scythians, thought to have occurred from the 5th to 2nd century BCE. Itinerant Hindu saints have used it in India for centuries, and in modern times it has been embraced by the Rastafari movement. Rastafarians are among the largest consumers of cannabis as part of their religious and spiritual rites.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: PatrickG38
Generally, this privilege is actually the source of the false sense of oppression that many Christians feel.

Yep, having gotten used to the status quo equality feels like oppression to them.

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

hmmm mm mmm
Priests get to fuck choirboys and are protected by their masters.

hmmh mmmmm

Churches dont have to pay taxes.

Come join my church of cannabis.

hmmhmm mmmm

They are forgiven off all sins.

Sayin, I swear to tell the truth so help me God.

dont know why somebody needs help speakin the truth.
I rather think they need 'help' when they lie.

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ARTICLE. 1.st

There shall be a firm, inviolable and universal Peace, and a true and sincere Friendship between the most Christian King, his Heirs and Successors, and the United States of America; and the Subjects of the most Christian King and of the said States; and between the Countries, Islands, Cities, and Towns, situate under the Jurisdiction of the most Christian King, and of the said United States, and the people and Inhabitants of every Degree, without exception of Persons or Places; & the Terms herein after mentioned shall be perpetual between the most Christian King his Heirs and Successors and the said United States.

ART. 2.nd

The most Christian King, and the United States engage mutually not to grant any particular Favor to other Nations in respect of Commerce and Navigation, which shall not immediately become common to the other Party, who shall enjoy the same Favor freely, if the Concession was freer made, or on allowing the same Compensation, if the Concession was Conditional.

ART. 3.d

The Subjects of the most Christian King shall pay in the Port Havens, Roads, Countries I lands, Cities or Towns, of the United States or any of them, no other or greater Duties or Imposts of what Nature soever they may be, or by what Name soever called, than those which the Nations most favoured are or shall be obliged to pay; and they shall enjoy all the Rights, Liberties, Privileges, Immunities and Exemptions in Trade, Navigation and Commerce, whether in passing from one Port in the said States to another, or in going to and from the same, from and to any Part of the World, which the said Nations do or shall enjoy.