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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 3:57:38 PM   
Killerangel


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ORIGINAL: cherrykeyboards


Sure.

Passive: allow people to label themselves.

Aggressive: key word analyze profiles for tributes and financial messages, filter appropriately.

Take your pick.



Well, allowing people to label themselves is a shot in the dark. For some they're upfront and that's the kink, for others they try to sneak in under the radar. So to me, the labeling of themselves is about as effective as getting people to list their weight/height/marital status/age truthfully. Which is to say that self-labeling is about 50/50 or less and always will be.

Analyzing for key words is just as inconclusive. Have you never seen the myriad of ways that people get around filters by putting perhaps k9, or br33ding or some permutation? If you force people to not use certain words they'll just get around it or go more underground by hiding their intent more thoroughly instead of just putting it upfront. I'm sure thousands of men would have you on a hit list for that one because now, if they see certain words they can discount the profile and move on. If they had to instead get to know each woman per profile to discern intent it would waste a ton more time.

Not viable solutions that I can see. Sorry.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 4:20:05 PM   
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I would like to tag the following:

MEN THAT ARE CHEATING ON A SIGNIFICANT OTHER

MEN WHO WILL NEVER SHOW UP FOR A MEETING

MEN WHO ARE LYING ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL SITUATIONS

Maybe they could have a special font, or colour to the font. Work on that, kthx.


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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 6:29:25 PM   
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Or how about since this is a PERSONALS site we work to get rid of the pro-only element?

It's not a "personals site," but a "BDSM Community," as you can see at the top of the front page. Business people are members of most communities.

I have over 100 profiles on hide. Doing that took maybe 300 seconds of my entire life. You can build the site you want by clicking the hide and favorite buttons.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 6:33:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrykeyboards


Sure.

Passive: allow people to label themselves.

Aggressive: key word analyze profiles for tributes and financial messages, filter appropriately.

Take your pick.



Well, allowing people to label themselves is a shot in the dark. For some they're upfront and that's the kink, for others they try to sneak in under the radar. So to me, the labeling of themselves is about as effective as getting people to list their weight/height/marital status/age truthfully. Which is to say that self-labeling is about 50/50 or less and always will be.

Analyzing for key words is just as inconclusive. Have you never seen the myriad of ways that people get around filters by putting perhaps k9, or br33ding or some permutation? If you force people to not use certain words they'll just get around it or go more underground by hiding their intent more thoroughly instead of just putting it upfront. I'm sure thousands of men would have you on a hit list for that one because now, if they see certain words they can discount the profile and move on. If they had to instead get to know each womn per profile to discern intent it would waste a ton more time.

Not viable solutions that I can see. Sorry.


You my friend are a troll.

Anyways, would love some moderation input on this one :)


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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 6:37:57 PM   
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Troll? Really.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 6:44:52 PM   
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cherrykeyboards,

There are days I log in, hide 10 profiles, and log out. Couldn't you do this too?

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 6:48:27 PM   
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I am so glad that the hide function is unlimited...

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 7:50:19 PM   
Killerangel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrykeyboards


quote:

ORIGINAL: Killerangel

Well, allowing people to label themselves is a shot in the dark. For some they're upfront and that's the kink, for others they try to sneak in under the radar. So to me, the labeling of themselves is about as effective as getting people to list their weight/height/marital status/age truthfully. Which is to say that self-labeling is about 50/50 or less and always will be.

Analyzing for key words is just as inconclusive. Have you never seen the myriad of ways that people get around filters by putting perhaps k9, or br33ding or some permutation? If you force people to not use certain words they'll just get around it or go more underground by hiding their intent more thoroughly instead of just putting it upfront. I'm sure thousands of men would have you on a hit list for that one because now, if they see certain words they can discount the profile and move on. If they had to instead get to know each womn per profile to discern intent it would waste a ton more time.

Not viable solutions that I can see. Sorry.


You my friend are a troll.

Anyways, would love some moderation input on this one :)




Wow, that's awesome that you think so since I thought I offered some reasonable debate on your subject and also some facts.

Since you believe I am trolling, could you point out please where the trolling was?

As per my points, what was wrong with saying that it is a fact that people are not always truthful when they already self-select items for their profiles such as age, height, weight, and marital status? I thought that was rather a good point as to why they might not choose the most appropriate category for their sexual orientation as they already seem to have problems telling the truth in the qualities I listed.

My other factual point of how a filter wouldn't work because people would get around it is also already happening, so how would your filter idea help exactly? Perhaps you could explain how using an idea that is already in place and being used and being circumvented is supposed to eradicate fin and tribute Doms...?

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 8:50:44 PM   
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Hibi-

For the record. I don't want to blow Ron (sorry Ron seems like to long of a line to stand in)

OP-

As for the idea of scanning profiles for key words....it won't work. I'm a pro but I'm not here looking for clients. I am looking for someone to add to my home. If the site were to make it so people who dom for a living (as well as 24/7) can't put it on their profile then the site would be forcing some people to lie and leave some information out when they speak to others. To say nothing of the fact that killer is right, it is very(VERY) easy to avoid using the words that would set off a filter anyway. I have to wonder if you would expct the site to include a title for someone that is a pro but isn't looking for work?


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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 9:08:15 PM   
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OP, I can see your idea. But it really doesn't take much time to read a profile.

And don't forget that there are some, like MissAsylum, that are both pro AND lifestyle Dommes.

Just keep plugging away, and think of them being pro as only ONE of the criteria you screen for. So you'll have to read profiles anyway.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 9:10:06 PM   
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Wow, that's awesome that you think so since I thought I offered some reasonable debate on your subject and also some facts.

Troll sounds sexier..

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 9:19:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: cherrykeyboards


quote:

ORIGINAL: Killerangel

Well, allowing people to label themselves is a shot in the dark. For some they're upfront and that's the kink, for others they try to sneak in under the radar. So to me, the labeling of themselves is about as effective as getting people to list their weight/height/marital status/age truthfully. Which is to say that self-labeling is about 50/50 or less and always will be.

Analyzing for key words is just as inconclusive. Have you never seen the myriad of ways that people get around filters by putting perhaps k9, or br33ding or some permutation? If you force people to not use certain words they'll just get around it or go more underground by hiding their intent more thoroughly instead of just putting it upfront. I'm sure thousands of men would have you on a hit list for that one because now, if they see certain words they can discount the profile and move on. If they had to instead get to know each womn per profile to discern intent it would waste a ton more time.

Not viable solutions that I can see. Sorry.


You my friend are a troll.

Anyways, would love some moderation input on this one :)




Wow, that's awesome that you think so since I thought I offered some reasonable debate on your subject and also some facts.

Since you believe I am trolling, could you point out please where the trolling was?

As per my points, what was wrong with saying that it is a fact that people are not always truthful when they already self-select items for their profiles such as age, height, weight, and marital status? I thought that was rather a good point as to why they might not choose the most appropriate category for their sexual orientation as they already seem to have problems telling the truth in the qualities I listed.

My other factual point of how a filter wouldn't work because people would get around it is also already happening, so how would your filter idea help exactly? Perhaps you could explain how using an idea that is already in place and being used and being circumvented is supposed to eradicate fin and tribute Doms...?



Alright alright, let's play :)

Assuming an aggressive stance comes in (auto filter of profiles on key words - this will never happen but alas for you my friend we can pretend): I assume anyone anal enough to Explicitly mention that they're a financial dom and will label it on their profile, yet hates to be defined as a financial dom in Search Criteria, and goes to extreme lengths to hide this from a search algorithm.. Well hats off to them and their warped logic. Filters will always catch you in the end though, and you can H1D3 something as much as you want but 3\/3|\|7|_|4LLY it's meaning becomes lost in translation and then you never really got your point across in the first place, did you?

Now lets assume it was a selectable option: Let's pretend at a good rate 1/10th of the entire Financial Dom population decided to label themselves as Financial Doms. This gives both the benefit of:
- People searching for Financial Doms to easily find them
- People Not searching for Financial Doms the ability to easily hide 1/10 of the Fin Dom population.

Who Benefits?
Financial Doms:
+ It should be obvious now (if they didn't make it rather Explicit before) that the Person Contacting them understands they're a Financial Dom.
General Users:
+ Who doesn't love a narrowed search criteria?

Who Loses?
The Financial Doms who (mind you are a lot of them) make explicit point on their profile that they're Financial / Tribute only and yet won't categorize themselves as such. These people will be lost from the search results of those looking explicitly For their target market.

Ah, and on the topic of why I called you a Troll.. because you only challenge instead of providing a logical For and Against argument and for your points.

To those who say I should hide profiles: Thank you for your suggestions :)
I actually do this, but I think it would be nice to see the site from a service delivery point of view increase overall.

Over to you; my friends.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/23/2012 9:21:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain
I have to wonder if you would expct the site to include a title for someone that is a pro but isn't looking for work?


A reasonable request m'lady. Anything is possible.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/24/2012 12:57:43 AM   
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Just use a dollar bill as your profile photo.
You won't have to search for them as they'll find you. :)

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/24/2012 2:45:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRage

Or how about since this is a PERSONALS site we work to get rid of the pro-only element?


Actually, CM's banner says that the site is a BDSM community....not a personals site. Many of us here aren't looking, we're here solely for the conversations.

I'm here to look at the cool avatars.

I want a search selection for hot 21Y.O. heiresses who dig decrepit antiques, own a pharmacy and a liquor store, and sleep with their asses in the air.


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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/24/2012 3:04:42 AM   
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I knew we were doomed, HK *sigh*

lol

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/24/2012 6:22:01 AM   
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quote:

Can we please get an option in the search criteria for filtering Financial / Tribute only doms?


As I've said the many, many times this comes up - Fin/Tribs out themselves immediately. Block/Hide is your friend.

Married cheating men can be much harder to spot and avoid.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/24/2012 7:11:05 AM   
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Troll? Really.



Yea, I had to shake my head at that one too. Perhaps she will come back and explain just what was wrong in the post. I thought it was pretty accurate.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/24/2012 7:36:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Troll? Really.



Yea, I had to shake my head at that one too. Perhaps she will come back and explain just what was wrong in the post. I thought it was pretty accurate.


Well according to the OP about trolling...

"Ah, and on the topic of why I called you a Troll.. because you only challenge instead of providing a logical For and Against argument and for your points."

Who knew that was trolling was? Besides in the post that was supposedly trolling there was logical information for the arguments, not just challenge. I don't think the OP knows what they are talking about and perhaps he is hurt that his idea of how to take care of unnecessary time-wasting on CM isn't all that and a bag of chips.

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RE: [Suggestion] Search option for financial / tribute dom - 3/24/2012 8:27:34 AM   
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It is a reasonable request but there is a problem with it. Many do not understand, or believe, that there are women here not looking for money. For me it's just work and if I put on my profile a title that says Pro-24/7 many will only see the first part and skip over the rest. How would you list it in a way that lets people know what one does for a living but point out that is not all there is not them? Or that it is not what they are here looking for.

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