Killerangel
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ORIGINAL: cherrykeyboards
Alright alright, let's play :)
Assuming an aggressive stance comes in (auto filter of profiles on key words - this will never happen but alas for you my friend we can pretend): I assume anyone anal enough to Explicitly mention that they're a financial dom and will label it on their profile, yet hates to be defined as a financial dom in Search Criteria, and goes to extreme lengths to hide this from a search algorithm.. Well hats off to them and their warped logic. Filters will always catch you in the end though, and you can H1D3 something as much as you want but 3\/3|\|7|_|4LLY it's meaning becomes lost in translation and then you never really got your point across in the first place, did you?
Actually, no, filters will not catch people in the end. Go look through profiles for the two examples i gave you....k9 and br33ding. Those two things are either illegal or not allowed to be mentioned here, and are in fact mentioned in many profiles and are perfectly understandable by those reading it. There is no meaning lost in translation there because someone disguised it so much that the intent is no longer legible. What you are offering on this point is theory, what i am saying is fact, and is happening right this second. If k9 was filtered out someone might simply ask if anyone else loved dogs. A filter isn't going to solve anything.
Why do you think the word "tribute" came about to begin with? Because it is against the TOS to ask others for money so way back in the dark ages some savvy person called it tribute and it's stuck. Do filters pick up on that? No. There will always be a way to circumvent a filter, I'm not sure why you are convinced in their power as you can see how much they don't work after being in place already. The meaning will come across, it already does.
Here's an exercise, I'll ask you for money without using the word money or tribute. "Ok you miserable worms, you need to understand that my time is valuable and you are going to have to make it worth my while to even deal with you. I detest all of you time-wasting creatures that can't get enough of me, ugh, I have a life you know. Get busy and prove to your Goddess that perhaps I might deign to grant you a smidgen of my time and effort. Contact me for details." That took about 2 seconds. The intent is clear as to the fact that she's asking for some kind of compensation. She gets a guy to write her privately and gives him the specifics. Filter out any word in there and I can think of another one that'll do. No hieroglyphics were needed.
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Now lets assume it was a selectable option: Let's pretend at a good rate 1/10th of the entire Financial Dom population decided to label themselves as Financial Doms. This gives both the benefit of:
- People searching for Financial Doms to easily find them
- People Not searching for Financial Doms the ability to easily hide 1/10 of the Fin Dom population.
Who Benefits?
Financial Doms:
+ It should be obvious now (if they didn't make it rather Explicit before) that the Person Contacting them understands they're a Financial Dom.
General Users:
+ Who doesn't love a narrowed search criteria?
Who Loses?
The Financial Doms who (mind you are a lot of them) make explicit point on their profile that they're Financial / Tribute only and yet won't categorize themselves as such. These people will be lost from the search results of those looking explicitly For their target market.
Sure ok, if some people self-select appropriately then it'll take off a few people from your search, but there were two other points related to this that were already mentioned that you have never yet addressed. What about those fin Doms that are both financial and lifestyle? Your self labeling falls apart on that point as they'd be both financial and lifestyle and neither financial or lifestyle.
What about the fact that if someone was NOT labeled as a fin Dom because they were hiding that, then the user would feel more comfortable about the possibility that someone who was not labeled as such was in fact a lifestyle Dom? Can't you see that more hopes would be raised and then squashed? It's actually easier to see the words yourself and hide those people from your search rather than getting up your hopes and finding out it's yet another tribute situation.
Also, I pointed out that more time would be wasted in the end by people having to email instead of just reading what was up on the profile. If you want to buy Raisin Bran cereal do you want to see it listed as Raisin Bran on the box or have to write the manufacturer of it and see if what you have in your hand is Raisin Bran?
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Ah, and on the topic of why I called you a Troll.. because you only challenge instead of providing a logical For and Against argument and for your points.
To those who say I should hide profiles: Thank you for your suggestions :)
I actually do this, but I think it would be nice to see the site from a service delivery point of view increase overall.
Over to you; my friends.
Well your definition of trolling is certainly unique and not commonly held. I don't think I was particularly challenging you in an aggressive way, pointing some things out perhaps- these are forums after all. I'm not sure how I can fit your definition of not trolling on this thread as I don't have a solution for this problem. I'm not opposed to finding one either, it's just never occurred to me how this might be solved. I"m not just picking holes in your solution, I was pointing out some viable issues with them.
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