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When I have an operation, no matter what kind, I'll be damned if it'll be witnessed by anyone other than the operating staff. Anything else would violate HIPAA.
Who the hell is that wacko to decide that an abortion will be viewed by complete strangers with no legitimate medical purpose?
That's not a HIPPA issue since the participants in the video will have given their permission. Anyone can give anyone access to their Medical information if they so chose. HIPPA protects agains unauthorized disclosure not authorized disclosure, this is a free country after all. I have no clue why you would even bring HIPPA into this.
I think a woman contemplating an abortion has a very legitimate medical reason to see what she will be getting into. I can think of no better reason.
Arturas, my guess on reading the article was that the woman would be required to witness a live abortion. Yours was that a video would suffice. I've reread the article and it doesn't specify. My statement regarding HIPAA violation is that my medical history is private, including what operations I've had. You are correct that, if this is done in a filmed video made with the participants' consent, there is no HIPAA issue, but I'm not sure that's the case.
Just to clarify, this is merely something that Rep. Proud mentioned in an e-mail. This is not part of any currently proposed legislation. The e-mail originally referenced HB 2036, which is a proposal to ban all abortions after 20 weeks, based on the theory that a fetus feels pain after that point.
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Debate surrounding this year's battle over abortion-restriction legislation at the Arizona Legislature -- and in at least two other states -- has come down to a question of pain.
Can a fetus feel pain, and at what gestational age does that ability develop?
Abortion opponents believe it happens at 20 weeks. Abortion-rights supporters vehemently disagree. Both sides cite physicians who agree with them. Both sides cite medical research that they say scientifically proves their stance.
But the science takes them only so far. Beyond that, it still comes down to a battle of beliefs.
In the past 10 years, about a dozen state legislatures have debated and passed laws requiring that women seeking abortions be told that the fetus feels pain.
In 2010, Nebraska was the first to ban abortions after 20 weeks based on the theory of fetal pain. Last year, Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas and Oklahoma passed similar laws. This year, Arizona, Michigan and Georgia are considering bans.
Arizona's House Bill 2036 makes sweeping changes to abortion law, including banning abortions in most cases after 20 weeks. The bill still needs final approval from both the House and the Senate before going to the governor.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2012/03/09/20120309arizona-abortion-bill-stirs-debate-fetal-pain.html#ixzz1q0NMoBTA
One thing that I do wonder about, at least in regard to the so-called "war on women," is that Rep. Proud and the sponsor of this bill (Rep. Kimberly Yee) are women, and the governor of Arizona is also a woman. Are women making war on themselves? Are Republican women viewed as "traitors"? How is this viewed by other women?
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