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ToTaboo4You -> Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/24/2012 9:25:10 PM)

Hello,

I am owned now by a Master to whom will be doing forced feminization on me as soon as I relocate. I have read & heard that if a male takes birth control that he will grow breasts & become more feminine from the estrogen in the bc does anyone have any experience with this & what are the health risks? Any suggestions preferably from sub/slaves as I am not allowed to communicate with any doms without Masters permission. Are there other ways to gain any advantages of female hormones?

Thanks



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/24/2012 9:35:02 PM)

NO NO NO NO NO.

For so many reasons.



littlewonder -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/24/2012 9:36:46 PM)

How are you planning on getting these meds? I'd be interested to find out.

As for your question.....bad idea but to each their own I suppose.



shadowbright -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/24/2012 9:40:59 PM)

There are reasons that birth control pills have to be prescribed, they're a medication. Taking them to force certain side effects is a level of being cavalier with your health that I cannot even comprehend.



DarkSteven -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/24/2012 10:51:33 PM)

I have known some transgenders that used estrogen. They did it when the thought of staying male was more than they could bear, and would have suicided otherwise. They did it under a doctor's care and were told all the risks they assumed.

Has this Master done any research? Is this something you are willing to die for, should your body react negatively to the hormones?



myotherself -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/24/2012 11:21:30 PM)

Many women (including myself) have been advised not to take this type of birth control pill for medical reasons - basically we risk serious illness or even an increased risk of death by taking it. This was after a thorough health screening.

If some biological women can't take this drug and it was designed for our gender, how dumb would you have to be to take it when:

(a) it's NOT designed for your gender
(b) you haven't had a medical screening?

So no, don't take it.

Unless you want to prove Darwin correct...[8|]



LafayetteLady -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/24/2012 11:30:36 PM)

According to your profile, you wish to become female.  I'm having a bit of an issue believing that based on your picture (very masculine) and profile (very horny male driven).

You are in your mid thirties, so presumably have some level of maturity.  Any person who indicates they will give you ANY type of medication who is not a licensed physician is willing to play with your health and your life.

Further, since you do list in your profile you do not wish to engage in illegal activities, you should be aware that taking any prescription medication that is not specifically prescribed to you is illegal, not to mention highly risky.

Do what you want, but when it all goes south, know that you were forwarned.



ProlificNeeds -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/25/2012 6:09:43 AM)

FR~


DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!!!!!

Do some serious research on the effects of altering hormonal balance in the male body. It can alter a lot of things, and cause serious health issues.



kitkat105 -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/25/2012 6:12:26 AM)

I'm starting to think these idiots should do this (and other equally risky and stupid loosely BDSM activities). It will help 'the Drawin effect'.



mynxkat -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/25/2012 9:16:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kitkat105

I'm starting to think these idiots should do this (and other equally risky and stupid loosely BDSM activities). It will help 'the Darwin effect'.


Heh, think of it as evolution in action.



JanahX -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/25/2012 9:25:18 AM)

What doctor will you be seeing that will write a script for you for these?



FelineFae -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/25/2012 9:44:07 AM)

Above this post, good answers abound. There is a safe means to your goal, the path by which you suggest getting there is not safe.



ToTaboo4You -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/27/2012 10:46:45 PM)

To the people who are just trying to reply with helpful information & concern I thank you. To the people clearly trying to be rude, FUCK YOU! I ask a question to get good feedback being I don't know much about this not to get negative feed back from the random assholes who have nothing better to do then talk shit & start drama. As I said it was a question & no I don't know squat about it which was the point of asking in hopes someone else would know more about it. To the person saying its illegal actually no it isnt you can get them free from any health clinic though obviously they are given to wiomen to cut down on unwanted pregnancy.

Again thank you very much for the positive feed back from the obvious concerned people, to the rest of drop dead...



peppermint -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/27/2012 11:36:48 PM)

http://www.livestrong.com/article/99796-side-effects-men-taking-female/

Here you go.  I got you a link that lists most of the bad things that can happen when men use female birth control pills.  The list goes from depression, to blood clots, to breaking bones due to bone density loss.  You may lose your ability to have erections.  Your testes will shrink.  You may lose all interest in sex and go through menopausal hot flashes to name a few. 

By the way, just because it is legal to get birth control pills from the clinic if you are female does not mean it is legal to get birth control pills from the clinic if you are using them for kink purposes only.  When men wish to become women they go through psychological testing.  Then if they pass those tests a doctor will prescribe the right dose of hormones for them.  The doctor will check the man frequently and make sure he is not suffering the many complications that the medications can cause. 

Make sure you know what you are doing before allowing someone who is not a doctor to mess with your system.  YOU are responsible for YOUR own safety.  Just because something 'sounds' kinky does not mean it will be kinky once you try it.  Think before you do.  Think about how this may impact your employment.  Think about how this might impact your family.  Make sure this is the right choice for you.  Do it only under doctor supervision. 



LafayetteLady -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/28/2012 12:29:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ToTaboo4You

To the person saying its illegal actually no it isnt you can get them free from any health clinic though obviously they are given to wiomen to cut down on unwanted pregnancy.



Well, Mr. Charm and Personality, I mistakenly gave you credit for having some level of maturity and intelligence.  My mistake.

quote:



Further, since you do list in your profile you do not wish to engage in illegal activities, you should be aware that taking any prescription medication that is not specifically prescribed to you is illegal, not to mention highly risky.


Women can't just walk into a clinic and get free birth control.  They need to see the doctor at the clinic or present a prescription.  Perhaps with the addition of enlarging the text and make it stand out more will enable you to read and comprehend what I said.







CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/28/2012 3:18:47 AM)

ToTaboo4You, last October I almost died from birth control pills. Dozens of blood clots were in my lungs and I spent a week and a half in the hospital. Anti-bloodclotting shots in the belly fat are a royal bitch...and those patches of meds I had stuck to my shoulder gave me the worst migraines of my life. Dude...I needed morphine to just stop crying and screaming from the headaches alone.

Rethink this. Talk with a kink friendly professional if you really want to do all this stuff, then do it the RIGHT WAY as several people have suggested. Birth control clinics do charge some for birth control pills, to my knowledge they're not completely free. Way back when, I went to Planned Parenthood and had to pay for the doctor visit and the pills...after having a pelvic exam. (Without having a pussy I doubt a birth control clinic will write you a prescription.)

Sometimes we have big dreams...and they end up being more complicated than we had planned.




angelikaJ -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/28/2012 3:35:20 AM)

No one was trying to be rude for the sake of being rude.

They all answered your question.

You just didn't happen to like the answer which was that for many reasons it is a bad idea.

quote:

To the person saying its illegal actually no it isnt you can get them free from any health clinic though obviously they are given to wiomen to cut down on unwanted pregnancy.


Since that is your assertion then my obvious suggestion is for you to go to "any health clinic" and explain that you want them to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

BTW: birth control pills do contain more than just estrogen.

The YAZ is supposed to help with premenstrual moodiness. Perhaps you should ask specifically about that one....
because you were pretty bitchy here.
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Gives a shout to Cynthia: I am so very glad you didn't die.





DarkSteven -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/28/2012 3:38:44 AM)

Last helpful suggestion, OP: this is a kink forum. We know kink but not really MtF transitioning. I'd recommend you go to a forum specifically for MtF TGs to advise newbies what they face.

If you do some Googling ahead of time, it'll help. Getting a thicker skin will also help. Believe me, you'll need it if you do transition. TGs have lost jobs, family, etc. as they transitioned.



Killerangel -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/28/2012 4:34:55 AM)

Your reaction to the supposed rudeness is way out of whack and kind of worrisome. Get a grip.

You aren't really understanding the obtaining of birth control thing here. Yes, women can get them at a clinic, but they have to undergo a checkup and have regular medical visits to keep getting them. Birth control is a prescription medicine. I"m giving you firsthand information here as I take them. Since you arent familiar with the process, understand that you can't just go in and get a pack- doesnt work that way. During the checkup that you have to have before the pills get in your hand, it will be obvious that you are male and want them for something that they aren't intended for. Medical personnel at the type of clinic you are describing cannot prescribe medication when they know it is going to be used for fraudulent purposes, the fraud being that you aren't the intended gender of use, and you aren't using them to stop unwanted pregnancy.

You need to accomplish your transitioning goal by going to someone specifically for that and have them guide you on the path you'll need to follow. Doing a do-it-yourself job to changing your gender isn't going to work, and we're saying why would you want to do it like that anyway? The risk for problems is huge even if you do it under full medical supervision. This is not the time to be Bob the Builder. If it's a serious goal go see someone that can truly help you and forget about getting medical advice from people on a message board.



angelikaJ -> RE: Birthcontrol / Estrogen (3/28/2012 5:49:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ToTaboo4You

Hello,

I am owned now by a Master to whom will be doing forced feminization on me as soon as I relocate.





What is bothering me about this is that you don't claim to be a transgendered person.
You state that your master wants to do a "forced feminization" of you.

And quite obviously neither of you have any idea what potential risks and side effects are.

So, it seems as though (and i could be wrong) you are so desperate to be owned that you are willing to toss common sense and prudent care of your well being aside to be with a man who apparently doesn't care about your health and well being.

How well do you know the master who owns you?
Have you met face to face yet?

Are his goals in ownership of you what you envisioned for yourself, or is this an instance of "no limits" slavery.
If your new master asked you to cut off an arm or to get yourself castrated, would you?

Everyone has limits.

There are things you should be aware of: men do get breast cancer, and since that type of cancer is usually fueled by estrogen you are likely increasing your risk of same.





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