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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 1:05:35 PM

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I'm trying to figure out how the tweet was sent from the school's IP addy. Even if the kid used the school laptop, it should have come from his home (or neighbor's LOL) IP addy unless he went close enough to the building at oh dark thirty to get onto the school's signal.

If the laptop automatically connects to the school's network via VPN to keep the school's content protected from unwanted outside access, any activity on the laptop would be seen as coming from the school's network.

Even if the laptop is several miles away? COOL. Is there any way I could get something like that so My agents could use their laptops wherever and still be able to log in thru the office router even if they were in the next county?

They'd still need an internet connection locally but you could set up a VPN (virtual private network) to allow them to log into your network.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 1:54:28 PM

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Even if the laptop is several miles away?

Even if the laptop is on the other side of the planet.

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COOL. Is there any way I could get something like that so My agents could use their laptops wherever and still be able to log in thru the office router even if they were in the next county?

Yes.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 1:57:47 PM

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logmein.com or gotomypc.com will both do this, and with free trials.

Leave the computer you want to access on and connected to the Internet. You can then use and everything on it from any computer connected to the Internet anywhere there's an Internet.

Literally, you could do your office work while in China.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 6:15:42 PM

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Literally, you could do your office work while in China.

That would be handy, 'cause I'm having a devil of a time doing it in the office.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 7:32:35 PM

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I don't think the schools should have the right to expel a student for something they do at home. They are overstepping their boundaries in my opinion. When the children are at home, it's the parents/guardians who decide what the kids are allowed or not allowed to do. What do they want us to do give them our kids and let them live at school. The school wants to invade our homes and take away our parental rights basically.

The only time I would agree with the school saying or doing something about things that happen at home is when the children are in an abusive or unhealthy situation, or their behavior is threatening harm to another human being, or threatening harm to themselves.

I agree with Dark Steven that it was unclear where it originated from and therefore we can't determine for sure what happened. If it didn't come from the school, the above is my opinion. But, if it did come from the school then they do have a right to correct the kid for doing it, but I agree expulsion might be a little severe for a first time. I also agree they should monitor what happens on their school grounds because they have to think of the safety and health of their students while they are in their care.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 8:02:16 PM

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See my thing is that kids should not be able to access ANY social media site from a school computer. If those sites are blocked, then this problem wouldn't arise at all, would it?

School computers are obviously there for school related activities (research, writing). I'm no computer expert, but it would seem these sites are very easily blocked. My local job services office blocks sites unrelated to job searches (which would include any social media sites) so how hard could it be for a school to do it?

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 8:10:02 PM

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Schools are starting to be held responsible by law to follow up on certain behavior via social media, even when outside school hours. The same way schools are responsible for what happens at a bus stop, long before a school bus arrives. Any sort of bullying or harassing behavior that prevents a student from receiving their fair education is the school's responsibility. Anti-bullying statutes are being passed all over the country addressing this, and social media bullying in particular. If a student is too scared to come to school or is losing the ability to learn due to harassment from his peers, wherever that harassment takes place, that is a disruption in his education and the school is responsible for doing what they can to correct it. Even if that's not the law in every state, it has enough publicity in school law publications that every district is hypersensitive to what it should do, even if not necessarily required at that point yet.

Following Tweets does seem excessive to me at this point, but...it would not surprise me to read about a district that is sued because it "should have known" about aggressive language of a student on a social media outlet. When you (generic you) say a school should not be controlling in this way, try to consider that the school is without choice. Blame the lawmakers.

On the surface, this looks stupid. It likely was not his first offense, though. I have a difficult time ever believing the media about events like this involving a student because we will only ever hear one side of the story. The school simply cannot comment due to privacy laws, and therefore, cannot give us another perspective.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/28/2012 9:25:52 PM

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My local job services office blocks sites unrelated to job searches (which would include any social media sites) so how hard could it be for a school to do it?

There are ways around anything.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/29/2012 4:38:53 AM

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I don't think the schools should have the right to expel a student for something they do at home. They are overstepping their boundaries in my opinion.

Not when the kid in question's doing something that can be traced back to the school.

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RE: student expelled for tweeting from home - 3/29/2012 5:31:23 AM

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The cases where the schools have been held (partly) responsible was when they were told that something was happening on a social media site and then claimed it was "outside" the school's responsibility.

It is unreasonable to expect any school to monitor twitter, FaceBook, MySpace and whatever other sites kids are using these days for the conduct of EVERY student. The law will NEVER rule they should. They will rule that if a student or parent says their child is being bullied on one of these sites, the school should take action. That is completely different.

High Schools have hundreds of students. There is no budget for personnel to spend their day reading the nonsense that kids post on FB and twitter. My 16 year old cousin posts on FaceBook all day from her phone, at least 50 times a day. No way is a school going to be required to read 50 posts a day from several hundred students, and there is no way that parents or students are going to stand for such an invasion.

I'm all for the school looking at what a child who is accused of bullying in that manner is doing, but every student? Never going to happen.

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