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If we dropped the Bush Era Tax Cuts, and closed up those tax loopholes that allow the very rich to pay less in taxes as a percentage than middle class America, you would see the deficit drain to nothing and *GASP* witness a surplus. The last three years of the Clinton Administration saw a surplus in each year (the final one being the largest). We as a country were making serious headway on eliminating the debt. Within one year of Bush coming to office, that surplus was gone and a deficit was in place for the budget. The debt which was being removed quickly was now rising quickly. This followed every year during the 'good times' of the economy. Towards the end of the Bush Administration, the economy started to explode and go down hill towards a depression. Most industries were in free fall! So yes, Mr. Obama took over the economic problems of this country created by 'fiscal conservatives' who happily voted for McCain (who choose to deal with the failing economy by ignoring it). Plus we as a country got dragged in to Iraq for those 'Massive Stockpiles' of 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'. After blowing $3 Trillion we realize that White House was not truthful with us in any regard. By the time Mr. Obama took office, that war costed us $4 Trillion. Where the hell was the accountibility and responsibility of all those 'fiscal conservatives'? No where on planet Earth!
You are assigning the good fortune of the internet explosion to Clinton (oh, and the Republican-led Congress that cuffed him), which had nothing to do with his policies. You are also assigning the blame to Bush for the drop in the economy from the Tech bubble burst, which wasn't his fault, and the post 9/11 recession, which also wasn't his fault. Don't forget that towards the end of the Bush Administration there was this Democrat-led Legislative branch. Don't forget that Clinton is on video record as fully believing Iraq was still producing WMD's.
And, during the Bush Administration, I found that the Republican Party no longer truly represented me (but they represent me better than the Democratic Party). The "establishment" Republicans were too pro-Government expansion.
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If the President had listen to Republicans in 2009, this country would have been in a deep depression similar to 1929. But he decided on a course of action which was not popular. He could have taken the popular idea, and witness another depression (to whom the Republicans would happily blame the whole thing on him). So the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act was pushed through Congress. Anyone that actually read it (that's about 8% of the nation) would understand what the bill was set up to do: Stop the Free Fall. Actually it had the added effect of not just stopping the free fall, or leveling out industries but actually putting some on the road to recovery. There are plenty of charts on the web that show how the Bush Administration lose jobs at a staggering rate. Did any conservatives blame him for that? Nope! When jobs were being lost under Obama's administration, did those same conservative blame him? HELLYA! The truth here, is that conservatives don't hold their own elected officals to even 1/100th the responsibility and accountibility as they rail at President Obama on an hourly basis! So each proceeding quarter found the amount of jobs lost under Obama dimished. Until finally we had positive jobs being created! Which is good for America and bad for Republicans (as they DID become 'The Party of No!').
The economy contuines to get better. Americans are finding jobs a bit easier now than under the Bush Administration. And we are able to fix some of the problems that landed this nation in that hole in the first place (mainly restoring regulations removed during the Bush Admin.). You can complain and bitch all you want DS; but the people you'll vote for in the election next fall are the folks that got this nation into so many problems to begin with.
The shit didn't really go to Hell until Fannie and Freddie jumped in and pushed for relaxed standards. Buying damn near any paper written, regardless of risk. Mortgage lenders didn't set rates according to just risk of default, but also according to their risk. When you're told that whatever you write will be bought within hours, what is your risk? Zero. So, the risk of default had less of an impact on rates than previous. Congress did nothing about Fannie and Freddie. The regulators and Congressional overseers were defending Fannie and Freddie almost right up to their needing bailed out. But, that was all Bush and the Repub's, right?
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Recall those 'Stem Cell Research' that came up during the Bush Administration? How conservatives were to dumb to realize that those stem cells had absolutely no chance of becoming human, but that we should ban the research nationwide all the same? Yeah, other countries put money into that research and pulled ahead of the nation. Do we see/hear any of you conservatives take ownership for allowing the nation to fall behind on scientific research? Of courese not! The day conservatives hold themselves and their elected officals to the same level of accountibility and responsibility as they slam President Obama on an hourly basis, is not likely to happen in my lifetime!
The stem cell ban was about not having an incentive for more abortions. Recall that research using current lines of stem cells was still allowed. Making more lines available was what was banned. People bitch and complain that the US spends a higher rate on drugs than other countries (not an incorrect assessment), but that is at least partially because we are at the forefront of research and are subsidizing everyone else. Wouldn't it be better to let them subsidize this research? You bitch when we subsidize and bitch when we don't.
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How much does it cost us taxpayers, DS, for a bill to reach the US House of Representatives, pass, and only to fail in the US Senate because House Republicans care not to pass something both sides would agree to, but for political points (to see they 'passed' the stuff they promised)? Because the House Republicans have done this a few hundred times. I'd imagine its costing us quite a bit of money to allow the Republicans to massage their ego's and accomplish nothing. Funny.....Where are all those fiscal conservatives that bitch about President Obama doing something? They're to busy figuring out how to blame Obama for wasting $10 million on war veteran's health coverage to notice money being wasted by House Republicans. You want to be taken seriously? Hold your elected officals that you both vote and cheer for to TWICE the accountibility and responsibility as you bash Mr. Obama and the Democrats.
You are griping because the Republicans aren't passing bills the Democrats would like?!? Are you fucking kidding me?!? If the Republican House passed bills the Democrat Senate would pass, they'd be Democrats. Obama and Democrats railed that the Republican Party became the "Party of No" because they wouldn't compromise. The compromise the Republicans wouldn't enter into was essentially, "you do what we want."
When I voted McCain in the last election, it wasn't because I was voting in support of McCain and his policies. It was a vote against Obama and his policies. Bob Barr had no chance of getting elected and could only truly suck votes away from McCain.
You have no idea what I think of my representatives. None at all. Am I happy with Boehner? Not at all. Rob Portman? Honestly, I haven't paid attention to what he's doing in the Senate. My other senator and my Representative are Democrats. The only thing I can say regarding all 4, is that Sherrod Brown is excellent about getting back to me. Marcy Kaptur sends out obvious form letters and Portman doesn't respond to much. As Boehner isn't directly my Rep, I don't write to him, so I can't speak to his responsiveness. To be absolutely honest, most of the people in Congress aren't worth a damn, IMO. It's all about what can they can do to get re-elected.
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What I support:
- A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
- Personal Responsibility
- Help for the truly needy
- Limited Government
- Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
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