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finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 12:40:40 PM   
IM2sik4u


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Status: offline 		Since male slave should and are expected to give gifts and tribute to their Mistress or even to be considered. I believe in equal oppertunity if not always equal rights. So tell me what you plan to send me to be a female slave! There are three females to every male out there and way too many here (leaving out troll, fakes, abusers) to bellieve in some old tradation that came from some out dated ideas.

Financial tribute to a Dominant (male or female) is stupid, and indicates that the Dominant is incompetent. Additionally, any Dominant who expects to be carried financially by their submissive or slave, is a parasite who can't make it on their own. Or they are a prostitute, but fail to take that label willingly. If they take on the status of a professional Dominant that's one thing, but to make it a commercial enterprise and claim it as their due as a Dominant is crass and insulting.
Admittedly, that is my opinion. But I do think that expectations of financial recompense of a Dominant by their sub/slave is tantamount to being a slime ball.
It begs the question of whether the people involved are capable to support themselves. Or have any pride. There is no question that each should be capable of supporting themselves.

Besides hurting to subs position and life after Dominant!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sickness, death, accident.....
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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 12:46:51 PM   
MistressDarkArt


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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 12:47:49 PM   
CeriseNin


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ORIGINAL: IM2sik4u

Since male slave should and are expected to give gifts and tribute to their Mistress or even to be considered. I believe in equal oppertunity if not always equal rights. So tell me what you plan to send me to be a female slave! There are three females to every male out there and way too many here (leaving out troll, fakes, abusers) to bellieve in some old tradation that came from some out dated ideas.

Financial tribute to a Dominant (male or female) is stupid, and indicates that the Dominant is incompetent. Additionally, any Dominant who expects to be carried financially by their submissive or slave, is a parasite who can't make it on their own. Or they are a prostitute, but fail to take that label willingly. If they take on the status of a professional Dominant that's one thing, but to make it a commercial enterprise and claim it as their due as a Dominant is crass and insulting.
Admittedly, that is my opinion. But I do think that expectations of financial recompense of a Dominant by their sub/slave is tantamount to being a slime ball.
It begs the question of whether the people involved are capable to support themselves. Or have any pride. There is no question that each should be capable of supporting themselves.

Besides hurting to subs position and life after Dominant!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sickness, death, accident.....

Or it indicates that some S-types and D-types truly get off on it. I don't, but I personally know some who do.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 12:51:28 PM   
Alecta


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Financial tribute to a Dominant (male or female) is stupid, and indicates that the Dominant is incompetent. Additionally, any Dominant who expects to be carried financially by their submissive or slave, is a parasite who can't make it on their own.


You're making the false and broad assumption that every Dome/me who accepts financial tribute relies on it as their living. This is untrue. You're also skipping over the circumstance where the decision to put the financial burden entirely on the slave was influenced by vanilla factors such as a standing relationship and mutual agreement. And while I agree with you that those who do rely on your financial tribute for their groceries are parasites, that does not necessarily make them fake or incompetent Dom/mes... just horrible people. It's hard in the face of those people not to swing to the "True D/s" fallacy, admittedly, but to my surprise, there are those who consider that kind of "Dominance" to be the true kind as well, so....


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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:00:16 PM   
Whenready


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Admittedly, that is my opinion.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:11:49 PM   
PateSucree


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Status: offline 		Time is money. Time that I spend domming is time that I am not spending filling my bakery cases or working at my office job, so I think that being compensated for it is 100% fair.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:18:12 PM   
MissKittyDeVine


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Status: offline 		I see you´re hanging around, OP, to see the reactions you get. Ok, I´ll bite.


To summarise your post:

I couldn´t get a hot young babe to satisfy my fantasies for free so I´m throwing my toys out of the pram!!

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:34:58 PM   
RedMagic1


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ORIGINAL: IM2sik4u
Financial tribute to a Dominant (male or female) is stupid, and indicates that the Dominant is incompetent.

Actually, if a woman never bought me dinner, gifts, etc., I would consider myself, and the entire relationship, incompetent. Why would I want to spend time with a woman who didn't show me I was valuable?

Also, just so you know, I agree with MissKittyDivine. What I heard you say was: "When I want a cyberdominatrix to help me bust a nut, she should do it for free because I am the dominant one." If that isn't what you meant, you might want to clarify.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:35:35 PM   
peppermint


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Status: offline 		Poor poor baby.  Wasn't there any sugar to put in your coffee this morning? 

How nice to see a dominant put down other dominants.  Doing so will certainly cause you to make friends and influence people.  Starting out with insults is the perfect way to get people to agree with your very limited point of view.  We just love whining and crying and complaining.  It makes you seem so warm and fuzzy, emphasis on the fuzzy part. 

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:36:32 PM   
MistressJennalee


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Status: offline 		First of all, the face that financial is misspelled is absolutely killing me.

Secondly, I am baffled by the amount of hate for tribute/financial domination/pro dommes. Everything ranging from 'disgusting, whoring' to 'not a real fetish.' Just because it's something you aren't interested in doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I have no interest in taking a dump in somebody's mouth, in fact I find the practice utterly repulsive. But, there are plenty of people who enjoy it, and I don't spend my time going to every site I can find which features scat and telling everyone there to fuck off and die.

Also, I genuinely love what I do. I have a degree in both theatre and abnormal psychology, and I adore dissecting the minds of my pets, finding what makes each and everyone of them tick and using it to assert dominance even though I may be in a different area, time zone, even country. And, as another poster said, it is compensation for time and services rendered. Why the internet schoolyard bully attitude? I work my ever loving ass off, I am basically on 24/7, and get called a leech for it? It reminds me of my beginnings as a PSO, being honest when going through chat rooms, never once misrepresenting myself or claiming to be anything but a PSO looking for new clients. Whenever I was PMed (I NEVER spammed or approached first) it was all puppies and sunshine until each man realized I wasn't some green little lamb and wouldn't be slipping them any kind of a freebie. Then it was 'fuck you, you fucking whore, fuck off and die' as though I had spammed them and harassed them to the point of total insanity.

In summary, so tribute is not your thing. SO WHAT? Move on to someone else. It's like going on match.com and seeing someone who might not be the best looking or smartest person. You have a private chuckle or cringe and you move the fuck on. You don't send them an email saying 'You're going to die alone.'

I also love that all the haters who email ladies using real pics, saying they are ugly and fat are the ones with no pics at all.

All right, I'm off my soap box. I'm sure if anyone reads this my panties will be up and smoke from flames. I'm sure I will not have changed one mind, and I will only aggravate haters further. Whatever. I've got a mani/pedi appointment after a rigorous CBT session.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:38:17 PM   
RedMagic1


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ORIGINAL: MistressJennalee
First of all, the face that financial is misspelled is absolutely killing me.

I agree with the meat of your post. However, it gives me sadistic pleasure to point out how dangerous it can be to criticize spelling mistakes on the Internetzzzzz.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:40:33 PM   
MistressJennalee


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1


quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressJennalee
First of all, the face that financial is misspelled is absolutely killing me.

I agree with the meat of your post. However, it gives me sadistic pleasure to point out how dangerous it can be to criticize spelling mistakes on the Internetzzzzz.


Very true. I am usually cursed when I criticize someone's spelling I make a grammar error. To quote a popular parlance of this generation: Fail.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:46:41 PM   
searching4mysir


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ORIGINAL: IM2sik4u

Since male slave should and are expected to give gifts and tribute to their Mistress or even to be considered. I believe in equal oppertunity if not always equal rights. So tell me what you plan to send me to be a female slave!


Not a damn thing. But then, I have no desire to be YOUR female slave.


quote:

There are three females to every male out there and way too many here (leaving out troll, fakes, abusers) to bellieve in some old tradation that came from some out dated ideas.


Baloney. The men outnumber the women on kinky sites by about 10 to 1. Kinky submissive women are in high demand. As a result, we can be choosy.




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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:48:23 PM   
RedMagic1


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ORIGINAL: MistressJennalee
I am baffled by the amount of hate for tribute/financial domination/pro dommes. Everything ranging from 'disgusting, whoring' to 'not a real fetish.'

This point does get discussed from time to time, including perhaps most recently, here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4069801/tm.htm

While there are a lot of motivations, I am sure, I believe most of that behavior comes from one of two sources:

1. Men who believe women are more or less like men, and like themselves. So if they are talking to a woman on a sex-related site, it must mean that she is horny as hell and wants to get off now. Hence, if she denies him, or wants money first, it must be because she is whoring herself, and denying what comes naturally to her.

2. Men who have a bit more experience with women than group 1, but have poor social skills. (Not funny, not reliable, etc.) So they can get dates and get laid when they toss coins on the table, but can't otherwise. This is an empty life of course, without truly intimate contact, and they are angry at women for denying them emotional intimacy.

The first is cluelessness; the second, avoidance of personal responsibility.

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:50:52 PM   
Alecta


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Status: offline 		Point in order, the OP made an exception for the ProDom/me profession

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 1:55:44 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		People need to send me stuff. Just on general principle.

I was channelling JJ there, did it work? Did I sound authentic?

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 2:04:30 PM   
LanceHughes


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quote:


Since male slaves should and are expected to give gifts and tribute to their Mistresses or even to be considered, I believe in equal opportunity if not always equal rights.
fixed
I guess I skipped over that part of the "male slave" manual.  You know, the part that outlines what is expected in the way of gifts which are to be offered for consideration.  WAit!  Wasn't there something about Amazon wish lists....?

I ask the Dommes here to tell us what gifts they received from their male slave(s.)  I'm excluding Fin-Dommes for obvious reasons.
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P.S.  And speaking of "equal opportunity,"  I have never been offered any gift by a slave under consideration.  Sure would like to get into the Fin-Dom business, y'know?

< Message edited by LanceHughes -- 4/7/2012 2:23:43 PM >

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 2:13:07 PM   
LanceHughes


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Status: offline 		I just realized the OP's user name would indicate that I coulda / shoulda / woulda saved key strokes: IM2sik4u equals "I am too sick for you."  I'll agree and leave it at that.

Oh, and it's one of those 1st posts where the OP generally disappears after the rant.  You think I'd learn, wouldn't you? LOL!

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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 2:19:22 PM   
fetisheden


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

I see you´re hanging around, OP, to see the reactions you get. Ok, I´ll bite.


To summarise your post:

I couldn´t get a hot young babe to satisfy my fantasies for free so I´m throwing my toys out of the pram!!



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RE: finicial tribute - 4/7/2012 2:35:17 PM   
Killerangel


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Status: offline 		Well, you are entitled to your opinion and as you know, the rest of the world could really give a damn what your opinion is. After reading your profile I think you have the wild misconception that people actually care as far as how you think things should go.

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