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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 1:36:20 PM   
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Just a bit of the baby feminist in me... Haven't women been expected to provide and used for the pleasures and control of men and have had to fight for any progress they have made toward equality? I see servicing men as a continuation of this service and don't understand how men will respect that any more than they have in the past. So I was wondering how we are to expect men to respect women that are pro's when even if they are paying for a fantasy service... they are still in my opinion, using women for their pleasure.



why does feminism not include the stripper, the pro domme and the prostitute?
feminism and equality mean we have the choice to decide, whether that choice be as senator or as porn star.

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 1:48:01 PM   
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I have seen financial Dommes online here that take pride in the service they provide. They show genuine concern that the customer is getting what they pay for.

Then there's chicks like that 22 year old that came on here asking for tasks for her "submissives' to do on cam. She has figured out that it's easy to get desperate men to buy her things and subsidize her life. Hell, she outted one of her clients on her blog and refused to remove his name until he contacted a lawyer. She cares about nothing except her Amazon wish list and didn't even have enough brains to come up with her own tasks.

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 2:08:47 PM   
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Just a question...

Just what about providing a fantasy service encourages the promotion of treating women with respect?



My word, Lockit, you *are* getting good at hitting those nails on their heads these days, aren't you?

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 2:10:01 PM   
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Whats the big discussion? Who the fuck cares whether these women charge or not? Thats their business. How does that affect anyone but the person whos charging and the person whos paying?

No one is forcing anyone to pay anyone / pull out their credit cards / what the fuck ever / to pay anyone anything. If they do, its their money and they can do what they fucking want to with it. WHY the fuck would anyone else care? Its not your money.



I don't care what they do, but they need to own it for what it is. Hell, I think prostitution should be legal,

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 2:12:22 PM   
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Just from what I have seen on CM and read on profiles. It seems that most "financial dommes" just want to get money for doing nothing really except maybe some online play. I really don't like the sense of self-entitlement most of them seem to have.
As far as the real life financial dommes, like prostitutes, they provide services and deserve some compensation I guess.

Also, I have seen tons of financial dommes on here. I wonder if their are any financial doms.



There are some, you are right who do nothing, those are the ones in another thread that I was referring to, that make some good ones look bad. I also wanted to point out one of your statements above. It's cute to weasel in the words "like prostitutes" in there, but the truth of the matter is that anywhere you go to purchase something, you pay. Bottom line. I one made a statement in a journal referring to a dentist. He provides a service and I'm pretty sure you have to pay for it. So I assume he is like a prostitute as well.



Your dentist may very well be a prostitute and you might want to ask him about that yourself.
Prostitution is 1.The practice or occupation of engaging in sex with someone for payment. Or
2.The corrupt use of one's talents for personal or financial gain.
So yeah. Like a prostitute.




Oh wait, I just realized who you are. Sweetie listen, you're young and inexperienced on things. You have a lot to learn. But I'll break it down to you in tween terms so that you understand. A dentist gets paid for a job he does for personal gain. I'm sure he enjoys his jobs however I'm quite sure he does it to get paid. Thus My point..just because he does his job for money DOES NOT make him a prostitute. Also, in answer to your definition of prostitution, I do not have sex with My subs, and I am not using My talents for "corrupt use".

Bless your heart, I do hope being on these threads teaches you things. And that you actually open your mind and FIND OUT about things before jumping on bandwagons that you know nothing of.

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 2:18:09 PM   
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Oside Girl, those are exactly the ones I talk about that are just wastes of space. I'm sure there is someone for everyone but that is just clearly not something that is welcome in My book. Outting a sub is not very business minded at all. And to Me it is frowned upon in this lifestyle.

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 2:24:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaKid8


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ORIGINAL: DaKid8

Just from what I have seen on CM and read on profiles. It seems that most "financial dommes" just want to get money for doing nothing really except maybe some online play. I really don't like the sense of self-entitlement most of them seem to have.
As far as the real life financial dommes, like prostitutes, they provide services and deserve some compensation I guess.

Also, I have seen tons of financial dommes on here. I wonder if their are any financial doms.





There are some, you are right who do nothing, those are the ones in another thread that I was referring to, that make some good ones look bad. I also wanted to point out one of your statements above. It's cute to weasel in the words "like prostitutes" in there, but the truth of the matter is that anywhere you go to purchase something, you pay. Bottom line. I one made a statement in a journal referring to a dentist. He provides a service and I'm pretty sure you have to pay for it. So I assume he is like a prostitute as well.



Your dentist may very well be a prostitute and you might want to ask him about that yourself.
Prostitution is 1.The practice or occupation of engaging in sex with someone for payment. Or
2.The corrupt use of one's talents for personal or financial gain.
So yeah. Like a prostitute.






I think this is what I was saying before about respecting people.You either get it or you don`t.

Online is online and as real as celiphane.......nuff said.Dommes and their clients who do online stuff deserve what they get......or don`t get.

Real life.......what actually matters ,is where the rubber meets the road and if one can`t even muster respect for women online.............forget about ever meeting some who wants your selfish ass in the real world.

On another note,most of the dom women I`ve met say that sub men are the biggest pains in the ass with topping from the bottom being SOP.

I`ve only met a few who have truly submissive men at their side.


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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 2:27:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: DaKid8


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ORIGINAL: DaKid8

Just from what I have seen on CM and read on profiles. It seems that most "financial dommes" just want to get money for doing nothing really except maybe some online play. I really don't like the sense of self-entitlement most of them seem to have.
As far as the real life financial dommes, like prostitutes, they provide services and deserve some compensation I guess.

Also, I have seen tons of financial dommes on here. I wonder if their are any financial doms.





There are some, you are right who do nothing, those are the ones in another thread that I was referring to, that make some good ones look bad. I also wanted to point out one of your statements above. It's cute to weasel in the words "like prostitutes" in there, but the truth of the matter is that anywhere you go to purchase something, you pay. Bottom line. I one made a statement in a journal referring to a dentist. He provides a service and I'm pretty sure you have to pay for it. So I assume he is like a prostitute as well.



Your dentist may very well be a prostitute and you might want to ask him about that yourself.
Prostitution is 1.The practice or occupation of engaging in sex with someone for payment. Or
2.The corrupt use of one's talents for personal or financial gain.
So yeah. Like a prostitute.






I think this is what I was saying before about respecting people.You either get it or you don`t.

Online is online and as real as celiphane.......nuff said.Dommes and their clients who do online stuff deserve what they get......or don`t get.

Real life.......what actually matters ,is where the rubber meets the road and if one can`t even muster respect for women online.............forget about ever meeting some who wants your selfish ass in the real world.

On another note,most of the dom women I`ve met say that sub men are the biggest pains in the ass with topping from the bottom being SOP.

I`ve only met a few who have truly submissive men at therr side.




THIS^^^^^

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 2:39:43 PM   
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I don't care what they do, but they need to own it for what it is. Hell, I think prostitution should be legal,


Amen to that.

But, also, I just wish that so many of them weren't so damned thick. It's embarrassing.

The thing about fantasising about getting dominated by a woman in a porny pic (which I do frequently, as I've revealed enthusiastically on several occasions on these boards ) is that you know she's never going to open her mouth and kill your buzz by demonstrating the fact that she's a total airhead.




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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 3:01:12 PM   
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I don't care what they do, but they need to own it for what it is. Hell, I think prostitution should be legal,


Amen to that.

But, also, I just wish that so many of them weren't so damned thick. It's embarrassing.

The thing about fantasising about getting dominated by a woman in a porny pic (which I do frequently, as I've revealed enthusiastically on several occasions on these boards ) is that you know she's never going to open her mouth and kill your buzz by demonstrating the fact that she's a total airhead.




I think all of us, a time or two, wish there were mute buttons.

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 3:24:04 PM   
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I think all of us, a time or two, wish there were mute buttons.


I'm sorry, but I'm still not going to talk to you until you arrange to look less like my younger sister, TNDK. It's disturbing.


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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 3:39:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
I think all of us, a time or two, wish there were mute buttons.


I'm sorry, but I'm still not going to talk to you until you arrange to look less like my younger sister, TNDK. It's disturbing.




Oh yes, that's right...I forgot you said that. LOL.

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 3:42:09 PM   
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Amen to that.

But, also, I just wish that so many of them weren't so damned thick. It's embarrassing.

The thing about fantasising about getting dominated by a woman in a porny pic (which I do frequently, as I've revealed enthusiastically on several occasions on these boards ) is that you know she's never going to open her mouth and kill your buzz by demonstrating the fact that she's a total airhead.


Nope.  Calling bullshit.  I'm an airhead and you get buzzed by Me all of the time.


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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 3:47:09 PM   
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Amen to that.

But, also, I just wish that so many of them weren't so damned thick. It's embarrassing.

The thing about fantasising about getting dominated by a woman in a porny pic (which I do frequently, as I've revealed enthusiastically on several occasions on these boards ) is that you know she's never going to open her mouth and kill your buzz by demonstrating the fact that she's a total airhead.


Nope.  Calling bullshit.  I'm an airhead and you get buzzed by Me all of the time.



You don't do airhead, LP. Forget it.


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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 4:54:17 PM   
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You don't do airhead, LP. Forget it.


Nice try, dude.  I'm going to remember this the next time I have to ask some stupid computer question.


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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 6:38:30 PM   
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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 7:28:59 PM   
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I love the kitteh pic!!

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 8:09:38 PM   
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Just for the record: No I do not consider myself a financial Domme but do expect to have my time compensated


Kinda like "Hey, I ain't a prostitute, but I expect you to compensate me for the time I spend on my knees while with you?".



Prostitues are one thing but thhis is a different thing all together. I would lov to see you try that BS on someone who comes out to repo your car lol

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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 8:50:11 PM   
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I ought to be compensated for the time it took to read this thinly veiled advertisement.


LOL so yoru telling me you think that Dommes should give their time & their money, to all the slaves just tomake them happy? LOL I am sure if you work you want to be compensated for your time working dont you?

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Wow. ok. That was a lot to read. I liked what was said, somethings. Just last night read a journal of some young 19 year old girl, standing on her soap box complaining about how Fin and Pro Dommes are whores, bla bla bla. It was really sad to see someone that young, who clearly in her version of what goes on,knows nothing of what Pros or Fin Dommes do.
As far as "justanothersub" and "servant4use" comments, well it would depend on if that particular Domme was selling her body for money, or being a whore. I am a Fin/Pro and have never sold Myself, and yes I will be compensated for My time. Plain and simple. (Gawd I feel like I have said that a million times) LOL.

very well said, no one is holding a gun to anyones head and making them do Financial slavery, In fact if they dont want to compensate for time spent I will be the first to tell thenm hit the bricks and look elsewhere I dont go out and hold a machine gun to their heads or anything like that lol. In the end it is their choice, hell I get approached daily, almost hourly by slaves wanting and craving Financial slavery. so again as I feel we agree on the fact that in the end the choice is theres to make , they want it then they compensate for the time and money spent on my end, they dont wnat it go elsewhere.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Note to sub men.......and all men......the world doesn`t revolve around you.

The pro-Dommes (or any Domme)aren`t there to serve you.Or meet your man-based sexual expectations or your selfish man-fantasies.
They provide a fantasy service.If you don`t like them......don`t seek them out or hope that you`re the one loser who will win her heart.
Until you learn to treat women as individuals and respect,are willing to seek and keep a connection and some trust,you`ll never have a real relationship......with anyone.

very well said
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ORIGINAL: JanahX
Whats the big discussion? Who the fuck cares whether these women charge or not? Thats their business. How does that affect anyone but the person whos charging and the person whos paying?
No one is forcing anyone to pay anyone / pull out their credit cards / what the fuck ever / to pay anyone anything. If they do, its their money and they can do what they fucking want to with it. WHY the fuck would anyone else care? Its not your money.

I agree with you, it should be between the two people , not anyone else but when Dommes get their accounts deleted because of this and slaves continue to do as they wish I think its kind of off base dont you ?
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ORIGINAL: DaKid8
Just from what I have seen on CM and read on profiles. It seems that most "financial dommes" just want to get money for doing nothing really except maybe some online play. I really don't like the sense of self-entitlement most of them seem to have. As far as the real life financial dommes, like prostitutes, they provide services and deserve some compensation I guess.
Also, I have seen tons of financial dommes on here. I wonder if their are any financial doms.

this is your opinion, and if you dont want to deal with Financial Dommes you dont have to no one is forcing you are they? As for you saying that they are paying for nothing thats wrong, If I waste my time on cam, phone , in person or whatever else may happen its not a chariety bazare I am not here for a free for all. do you work for free or do you expect paid for your time?

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
Prodommes have a place in the BDSM world, given the number of (mostly) male "subs" who are happy to pay a person to be a fetish delivery device.If both client and pro are happy with the arrangement, I agree whose business is it? I sure don't think it should be illegal.


Amen

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I'll give you credit where it's due, OP. You certainly invested a lot of time and keystrokes typing that out. I think you were probably trying to educate people on financial domination from your point of view, but like poise, I found it odd that you don't want to be associated with the term. Even by your own definition as someone who offers services in exchange for monetary compensation, you can't exactly go back and say that's what you do, but you don't consider yourself that. I also think it's odd that the thread comes from a very recently created profile and makes Me think there are two possibilities. One is that you didn't want the thread to come from whatever other profile you've got on the site. The other is that you had to create a new profile because your last one got yanked. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say it was the latter if you were using it to advertise selling undergarments that you have worn. TOS is very specific on that one.


well what does /TOS say about the slaves who are doing the self same thing approaching Dommes wanting to buy things or pay for services? I guess they get a free ride and should not be deleted but Dommes should? My point is this site is here for all aspects of the lifestyle if you start hand picking then it goes to hell in a hand basket


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ORIGINAL: DaKid8
Prostitution is 1.The practice or occupation of engaging in sex with someone for payment. Or
2.The corrupt use of one's talents for personal or financial gain.
So yeah. Like a prostitute.

at no time do I sell myself, I do not have sex with these slaves, there is a big difference ini providing servives like bondage, CBT, chastity and being a whore.


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In the end it boils down to this

  • what happens between two adults is there business, and no one elses. If a site is not going to allow this then they need to delete BOTH sides not just the Dommes
  • no one forces the slaves to do this its their choice
  • whats fair for the Domme (to be deleted) should be just as fair for the slve to be deleted


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RE: Financial Dommes, all bad? I think not - 4/12/2012 9:00:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressMystic69

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ORIGINAL: poise
I ought to be compensated for the time it took to read this thinly veiled advertisement.


LOL so yoru telling me you think that Dommes should give their time & their money,
to all the slaves just tomake them happy? LOL I am sure if you work you want to be
compensated for your time working dont you?


Not at all. I'm saying I just invested 4 minutes of my precious time reading a bunch of text
about how unfair life is that pro dommes get such a bad rep, and yet you don't even have
the balls to claim the title yourself.

No one is forcing you to like what you do, but to get on your podium and shout to the masses
"Financial dommes should be accepted and respected, however, I am not one of them!"
is kind of ridiculous, and thus, you ought to compensate us all for reading this.

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