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Fightdirecto -> Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 7:31:45 AM)

CNN

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It was just another Tuesday evening in a normally quiet neighborhood in Pearland, Texas, where kids are often found playing with one another and driving go-carts.

A family had just returned from Galveston on a spring break excursion, when upon their return, all of a sudden the unthinkable happened.

“You don’t belong in this neighborhood!”

These are the words that Jules Moor, a 13-year old black child, says that Deanna Johnson, a middle-aged white female, said to him after Johnson slammed her 2011 Jeep Wrangler into his go-cart on Tuesday, March 13, 2012.


According to court documents obtained from Jules’ attorney, Sylvester Anderson, Jules went for a ride in his go-cart in his neighborhood with another 13-year old boy who had been spending spring break with the Moor family. A third minor boy, another friend of Jules’, rode a small bicycle behind the go-cart.

Jules saw two cars behind him while driving back home, so he decided to drive his go-cart completely off the road to his right onto the grassy edge of the neighborhood park to avoid being in the way of traffic.

It is then that Jules states that Johnson swung her vehicle across the south-bound lane of the road, ran over the curb onto the grass and deliberately and intentionally rammed her vehicle head-on into the go-cart.

According to Jules, Johnson got out of her vehicle and confronted the boys in a hostile and threatening manner yelling “Where do you live? Who are your parents?” while shaking her finger at the kids. Jules goes on to say, “With all due respect, Ma’am, I live down the street,” to which Johnson allegedly tells him that she didn’t care and that she was calling the police.

Jules called his mother and told her that Johnson had hit his go-cart and didn’t know why.

“He thought he was going to die,” said Theresa Moor, mother of Jules. “All I could do was stop what I was doing, grab my keys and make my way to my child.”

As Theresa arrived, she saw that the go-cart had been damaged severely and learned from Jules that Johnson had accused the boys of not living in the neighborhood. As Theresa approached Johnson to find out what happened, Johnson put her palm up to her face in a dismissive manner, refused to talk, went back to her truck and rolled up the windows.

Frustrated at the way things were transpiring, Theresa contacted the police and several Brazoria County Sheriff’s deputies arrived.

According to Theresa, she overheard Johnson claim that she was trying to “detain” the boys because they looked like some kids that they had seen earlier riding bicycles onto the driveways of houses in the neighborhood...

It is still unclear why Johnson decided to do what she did. Johnson never apologized for ramming her truck into the go-cart and jeopardizing the lives of the three children and according to witnesses, was seen laughing as she spoke with the Sheriff’s deputies.

Johnson was not arrested or drug-tested upon the admission of her actions. The Sheriff’s department Captain that came on the scene decided not to arrest Johnson upon consulting with the District Attorney.


Even assuming that the two 13-year-olds did not live in the neighborhood - does that justify running your truck off the road to jam their go-kart in order to "detain" him?

The gated community mentality

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The perverse, pervasive real-estate speak I heard in these communities champions a bunker mentality. Residents often expressed a fear of crime that was exaggerated beyond the actual criminal threat, as documented by their police department’s statistics. Since you can say “gated community” only so many times, developers hatched an array of Orwellian euphemisms to appease residents’ anxieties: “master-planned community,” “landscaped resort community,” “secluded intimate neighborhood.”

No matter the label, the product is the same: self-contained, conservative and overzealous in its demands for “safety.” Gated communities churn a vicious cycle by attracting like-minded residents who seek shelter from outsiders and whose physical seclusion then worsens paranoid group-think against outsiders. These bunker communities remind me of those Matryoshka wooden dolls. A similar-object-within-a-similar-object serves as shelter; from community to subdivision to house, each unit relies on staggered forms of security and comfort, including town authorities, zoning practices, private security systems and personal firearms.

Residents’ palpable satisfaction with their communities’ virtue and their evident readiness to trumpet alarm at any given “threat” create a peculiar atmosphere — an unholy alliance of smugness and insecurity. In this us-versus-them mental landscape, them refers to new immigrants, blacks, young people, renters, non-property-owners and people perceived to be poor.




Owner59 -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 8:09:13 AM)

Wow.......


Imagine if she had run over one of the kids....


She`s in serious trouble...........or fuck`n better be.


You think your kids are out safe playing or staying with a trusted friend`s family for vacation and and you hear someone killed your kid because they didn`t look right.......or wasn`t in the "right neighborhood".


Questions,....where do these folks get that they are the police and doing the police`s work?

And how long before this wench becomes the next rightie-rock-star?Had she shot the minor....it`d be a done deal.

She could claim they packed together to drive her 3000 lb. Jeep off the road and was "defending herself"......and she`ll have a pre-soaked army of cool-aid drinkers to support her.

Bet hubby`s pissed.[:D]




VideoAdminGamma -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 8:11:13 AM)

Fast reply

Hopefully to keep this topic on track a reminder to stick to the OP and to post about Zimmerman issues to the "All things Zimmerman" topic.

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DesideriScuri -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 11:57:12 AM)

If the child's claims can be proven (and I hope he is telling the truth and it can be proven), she's in for a shitload of trouble. As she should be, too.




Fightdirecto -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 12:41:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Wow.......
Imagine if she had run over one of the kids....
She`s in serious trouble...........or fuck`n better be.
You think your kids are out safe playing or staying with a trusted friend`s family for vacation and and you hear someone killed your kid because they didn`t look right.......or wasn`t in the "right neighborhood".
Questions,....where do these folks get that they are the police and doing the police`s work?
And how long before this wench becomes the next rightie-rock-star?Had she shot the minor....it`d be a done deal.
She could claim they packed together to drive her 3000 lb. Jeep off the road and was "defending herself"......and she`ll have a pre-soaked army of cool-aid drinkers to support her.
Bet hubby`s pissed.[:D]

Actually, I see this woman to be more of a "paranoid bitch" rather than a "racist bitch" - someone who has fallen for the "BIG LIE" constantly drummed into her ears by FOX-News and Rightist radio talk-show hosts.

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It would never come into the heads of the broad masses of the nation to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume 1, Chapter 10

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The primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

- Walter C. Langer, A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler, page 219

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If you tell a lie that's big enough, and you tell it often enough, people will believe you are telling the truth, even when what you are saying is total crap.

- Richard Belzer






Kirata -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 1:57:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

The gated community mentality

From the link:
    Under assault, I didn’t dream of harming my teenage assailant, let alone taking his life.

    Mr. Zimmerman reacted very differently, taking out his handgun and shooting the youth in cold blood.

    What gives?

    Welcome to gate-minded America.
And welcome to the Association of Remote-Viewing Journalists. Nevermind Zimmerman, is it possible for anything to happen anywhere in America these days without some crystal-ball wielding nutcase contaminating the issue with his own imaginings?

K.




Owner59 -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 1:58:51 PM)

Guess you missed the mod note?




LaTigresse -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 2:06:31 PM)

I am very glad I live where I do. The local meth heads are saner and less paranoid.




Kirata -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 2:08:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Guess you missed the mod note?

Try reading and see if you can tease out the comment's focus:

    Nevermind Zimmerman, is it possible...
Any clue yet?

K.




Owner59 -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 2:10:27 PM)

Imagine people like that walking around armed and looking for trouble.......


"oh....he had his hand in his wasteband......I felt threatened......he was going for "something"......"


Bang!




tazzygirl -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 2:20:43 PM)

Sounds like time for a new DA




kalikshama -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 2:31:25 PM)

IDK, I think when a 13 year old child is rushed to the hospital, someone should be charged but I don't know enough about procedure to know if the Captain is blowing smoke or not. This story was from April 5 - anyone know the results of the grand jury?

"You Don't Belong Here!" Suspected Racist Crashes Into Black Teens On Purpose [VIDEO]

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...His son was rushed to the hospital with head and neck injuries. “I don’t think, I know for a fact that she intentionally did it,” said Moor. “She left from the northbound lane, crossed over into the southbound lane, jumped the curb and hit my son head on in his go-cart.”

The Brazoria County Sheriff’s Office did not arrest the woman at the scene or charge her with a crime. Instead, investigators chose to take it to a grand jury. Moor is frustrated and wants charges filed against the woman, who lives around the corner from him. “I want justice to happen. I want a felony charge to be taken against this woman,” Moor said.

Monday, Capt. Chris Kincheloe of the Brazoria County Sheriff’s Office said he’s fielded over 70 calls regarding this case. He said misinformation went viral, and race was at the center of the outrage. “I talked to people from Maine, from California, one from Canada,” said Capt. Kincheloe.

Kincheloe doesn’t believe race had anything to do with the collision, and he said it has nothing to do with why the woman wasn’t arrested at the scene of the crash. “It was my decision to slow everything down, to do a thorough investigation and have the charge probably vetted to a grand jury,” said Capt. Kincheloe.

The case will go to a grand jury on Wednesday. The woman, who has not been named because she was not arrested, could face a charge as serious as aggravated assault.








Edwynn -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 6:41:51 PM)


That is complete hogwash. People are arrested routinely for lesser offenses with no PC other than the event itself, without witnesses. In this case there were two victim witnesses and a third non-injured witness to the event. What "misinformation" is Capt. Kincheloe talking about other than his own? Why was the driver not given a breathalyzer test or otherwise tested for drugs? That would be routine for any incident of someone crossing the oncoming lane and running into a mailbox that I've ever witnessed or heard about, -but for this sheriff's deputy, not even when another two people are injured and hospitalized?

Is it routine for Kincheloe to call in to the DA in the course of his response to and investigation of a road incident? That sounds awful fishy right there.

Anyway, the grand jury met once and was dismissed because they didn't have enough information, says the news report. They are supposedly to try again at a later date. Not having enough information? Oh that's right, responsibility for providing the jury with sufficient information falls to the same DA that said not to arrest the driver in the first place. Double and triple fishy.





Real0ne -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 6:57:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Wow.......

Questions,....where do these folks get that they are the police and doing the police`s work?




now thats hilarious!

polices work my ass
show me what city has poice that are not chartered by the courts? There is nothing in their charter to "protect" you! You drank the koolaid!




xssve -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 7:10:14 PM)

It's Texas Y'all, White makes right.




TheHeretic -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/12/2012 7:56:56 PM)

It's interesting, Fightdirecto, that you label your link "CNN," and then quote hugely from the article, yet miss the bit where it says the story is "NOT VETTED BY CNN."





truckinslave -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/13/2012 10:48:35 AM)

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If the child's claims can be proven (and I hope he is telling the truth and it can be proven),


I rather hope he is lying; the incident is then much less serious...
Occam's razor would indicate he is. Believing a kid wrecked his gokart and looked for a scapegoat is much easier for me to believe than that the cops would ignore such an incident.
OTOH, if there was damage to Johnson's vehicle resulting from "severely" damaging the gokart, I'm sure Ms Moor documented it on her call phone camera....

I'm too old to believe everything I read




Edwynn -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/13/2012 12:48:50 PM)


Yeah, the kids in the go-cart forced the Jeep to cross into the oncoming lane and run off the road, then quickly made their way around the vehicle and  rammed the Jeep from the front.

Much more plausible. Occam's razor at its finest.




thishereboi -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/13/2012 3:19:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

quote:

If the child's claims can be proven (and I hope he is telling the truth and it can be proven),


I rather hope he is lying; the incident is then much less serious...
Occam's razor would indicate he is. Believing a kid wrecked his gokart and looked for a scapegoat is much easier for me to believe than that the cops would ignore such an incident.
OTOH, if there was damage to Johnson's vehicle resulting from "severely" damaging the gokart, I'm sure Ms Moor documented it on her call phone camera....

I'm too old to believe everything I read



I'm too old for that also. But if what you are suggesting is true, why was Johnson there in the first place? And how did the kids know she would stop to help cement the story of how the gokart got wrecked? Why didn't she just tell the cops she didn't hit them and leave it at that?

And this...

According to Theresa, she overheard Johnson claim that she was trying to “detain” the boys because they looked like some kids that they had seen earlier riding bicycles onto the driveways of houses in the neighborhood.

I'm sorry but what the fuck. They were riding their bikes onto the driveways? Did she think the weight of their bikes would crack the cement? Now I can see her getting upset if they were running through the garden, but the driveway? WTF




tj444 -> RE: Vigilante Madness - Not Just In Sanford, Florida (4/13/2012 3:51:52 PM)

I could not see anywhere that this happened in a gated community.. If it wasnt a gated community then the bit about the gated community doesnt hold true if that menality is present elsewhere also..

Aside from that.. there are really dumb people all over the place.. they even have tv shows about how stupid people are.. I expect these kinds of vigilante things happen everywhere, we just dont hear about them all,.. just the worst or most high profile ones..

I dont understand why the cops didnt charge her, she used her vehicle as a weapon when she tried/almost ran the kids over.. I hope at the very least she gets her ass/assets sued off.. that is the only way to stop people like her, hit em in the pocket book..

jmo..




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