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MstrssSatin -> RE: A serious question (6/8/2006 11:58:12 AM)
owned listen to me very very carefully. I want you to call 1-800-784-2433. That is a national suicide hotline. They are professionals, they won't judge you and they won't dictate to you. They will listen, they will help and they will be there for you in anyway you need. They will do anything and everything they possibly can. Please promise that you will call them and at least talk to them. People do care about you and they do want you to live and to be happy again.

NJSubGirl -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 12:33:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo You are 19 years old and you are living as a slave?? No wonder you are depressed and want to die. You have no car, no choices, no nothing. Good god, you need to be out living your life, figuring out your place in the world as a person first , figuring out who you are, getting an education and/or career in line, hanging out with your friends and discovering yourself before you can commit yourself to someone, especially in an Ms context, and especially at your age. Go home to mom and dad, ask them for help. And run far and fast from the one you call "Master". I totally agree with this comment... I think I am such a good slave because I have accomplished so much in my life for myself... College, Respectful Jobs , Freindships, Loves, etc.... I can totally be submissive because of the fact that I know who I am... that makes me a better slave for my master! And makes me such a good girl and so special to him. Im not a mindless slave... Im allowed to speak esp when we are having meaningful conversations! Find yourself and Know who you are ... that will make you the best slave ever :) And you will be more respected!

marieToo -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 5:43:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: petwolf22 PlayfulOne, thanks for responding for me. i hadn't kept up with the thread and did not realize that marieToo had replied to me. marieToo, judging is not necessarily always meant negatively, but all of us do it, on a daily basis, with everyone around us. my point was that the OP came here for help on what to do, not suggestions as to the root causes of her problems, or having the blame placed on her. It's not our place to do that. THAT's why i didn't feel it appropriate to condemn her life choices, which, with subsequent posts, i think she has adequately explained. Take a look at the definition--we ALL do this, and you did too, you formed your opinion based on your perceptions of what you read. So, yes, you were in fact being judgemental. judg·ment also judge·ment [image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg[/image] ( P ) Pronunciation Key (j[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ubreve.gif[/image]j[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gif[/image]m[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gif[/image]nt) n. The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation. The mental ability to perceive and distinguish relationships; discernment: Fatigue may affect a pilot's judgment of distances. The capacity to form an opinion by distinguishing and evaluating In order to deal with a problem, one must get to the "root of the problem". So I would have to disagree with your opening statement. Now. You have a right to have an opinion on what is "appropriate", however, you do not have a right to tell me that I should share your opinion or agree with it. I read her post, assessed the situation, as I interpreted it, and answered her as honestly as I possibley could, without sugar coating. In my estimation (which may or may not be correct, but is the only estimation from which I can answer) her master is PART of the problem. Therefore I recommended that she get away from him. I see that at least 4 others here basically suggested the same thing. So I can only assume that my perceptions cant be that far off as other intellingent individuals picked up the same thing. Yes, she did defend him, after all the opinions and advice rolled in. But that is something that a 19 year old would do. Just like a child defends a parent to the outside world, or an adult defends their lover to an outside world, even when they know deep down the person in question can be at fault, exactly as is interpreted and stated by others. Now...When a person says "I want to die" and her Master says "I dont want to hear it". That to me is a huge part of the problem that was keeping her from getting help. The one person in her life who is supposed to love, cherish and above all "PROTECT" her..says "I dont want to hear it." Now you may not agree with this (and you dont have to) but in my estimation when the person in your life who is supposed to love you the most gets "mad" and says "I dont want to hear it" when you say you want to fucking DIE, it is at least a PART of the problem. If not THE problem itself. Yes, she said she felt like it was something from her past, but again, at 19, in that state of mind, sometimes a person is not capable of really hashing through it to see where it started. Maybe she is with the wrong master because she was running from her parents. Maybe this maybe that. All I can say (imo) is that when someone says "I want to die" and their master says "I dont want to hear it" that is an indication of; A) He doesnt care, or B. He doesnt KNOW how to care. Either or both of which are going to hinder this girl from getting help, hence my strong suggestion to run from him (at least for now) My statement/advice to her was not one of an anti-bdsm attitude, or anti-relationship. That is the way you took it, along with a couple of other people who decided to jump on the band wagon and go on crusade against me to state that my advice, repsonses, attitude, and what I ate for dinner were all wrong. I shouldnt "condemn", I shouldnt "judge" yada yada yada. It is not your place to presume that you know where a person is coming from. Who are you to lay down a statement of fact that I condemned something? Thats how you read it. That doesnt necessarily make it reality What should I have done before answering this girl? Should I have emailed all the posters on this site to see first if they agreed with me or not? Should I have run it past you for your stamp of approval, before giving my advice? Fact of life: People have varying opinions and views and interpretations of things. Its ok to tell someone that you dont agree, its not ok to try to tell them that they should think like you. I may not agree with other posters here, but did I post to them to tell them that their advice was wrong? Its up to the girl herself to determine what makes sense to her and what doesnt. As far as the word jugement. I used it in response to gumby who threw it up at me in regards to what I said to you. I used it with you because you threw it up with me in regards to the first message you left for me. In other words, I was trying to speak to each of you in your own tongue. I am very well aware of the meanings of the term judgement. As for your third post to me...To answer your question about why I didnt respond sooner. The answer: It was against my better "judgement". One of us had to be mature enough to put our differences aside and shut the fuck up until this girl got the help she needed. It wasnt going to be you or gumby or candie (who kept going on and on about it), so I stopped responding. I did not want to be a party to turning this girls thread into an argument with other people (unlike you and gumby and candie) who saw no problem in using her post as a stepping stone to pursue your own agendas. Even when I stopped answering to it, the 3 of you continued to post to me...there are several posts all in a row with nothing but the 3 of you attacking me..."marie this, marie that, marie the other thing"; to a point where the other posters began to reprimand for it. This wasn't about me, it wasn't about you, it wasn't about our opinions of each others advice. It was about this girl and her issue. We all gave advice and its up to her to take what she needs and leave the stuff behind that she doesnt agree with. I see that she hasnt posted here in several days, so I dont think its a big deal to answer you at this point. Now...You've given me your critique of my advice (several times) and Im going to give you my critique of your character. Your priorities and your judgement both suck. This girl needed support more than I needed a lesson in vocabulary, wouldnt you agree?? As far as the other two....Well, I dont find them worthy of a response. But you, as much as I disagree, I do not think you were trying to be malicous towards me, for the sake of a personal issue, hence my willingness to answer. I hope I have at least helped you understand my point of view, even if you do not agree with it. Now, you have said your piece (several times) I have said mine. I am now finished with this conversation. Regards, marie.

MistressOfGa -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 12:50:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo quote: ORIGINAL: petwolf22 PlayfulOne, thanks for responding for me. i hadn't kept up with the thread and did not realize that marieToo had replied to me. marieToo, judging is not necessarily always meant negatively, but all of us do it, on a daily basis, with everyone around us. my point was that the OP came here for help on what to do, not suggestions as to the root causes of her problems, or having the blame placed on her. It's not our place to do that. THAT's why i didn't feel it appropriate to condemn her life choices, which, with subsequent posts, i think she has adequately explained. Take a look at the definition--we ALL do this, and you did too, you formed your opinion based on your perceptions of what you read. So, yes, you were in fact being judgemental. judg·ment also judge·ment [image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/JPG/pron.jpg[/image] ( P ) Pronunciation Key (j[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/ubreve.gif[/image]j[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/prime.gif[/image]m[image]http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/AHD4/GIF/schwa.gif[/image]nt) n. The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation. The mental ability to perceive and distinguish relationships; discernment: Fatigue may affect a pilot's judgment of distances. The capacity to form an opinion by distinguishing and evaluating In order to deal with a problem, one must get to the "root of the problem". So I would have to disagree with your opening statement. Now. You have a right to have an opinion on what is "appropriate", however, you do not have a right to tell me that I should share your opinion or agree with it. I read her post, assessed the situation, as I interpreted it, and answered her as honestly as I possibley could, without sugar coating. In my estimation (which may or may not be correct, but is the only estimation from which I can answer) her master is PART of the problem. Therefore I recommended that she get away from him. I see that at least 4 others here basically suggested the same thing. So I can only assume that my perceptions cant be that far off as other intellingent individuals picked up the same thing. Yes, she did defend him, after all the opinions and advice rolled in. But that is something that a 19 year old would do. Just like a child defends a parent to the outside world, or an adult defends their lover to an outside world, even when they know deep down the person in question can be at fault, exactly as is interpreted and stated by others. Now...When a person says "I want to die" and her Master says "I dont want to hear it". That to me is a huge part of the problem that was keeping her from getting help. The one person in her life who is supposed to love, cherish and above all "PROTECT" her..says "I dont want to hear it." Now you may not agree with this (and you dont have to) but in my estimation when the person in your life who is supposed to love you the most gets "mad" and says "I dont want to hear it" when you say you want to fucking DIE, it is at least a PART of the problem. If not THE problem itself. Yes, she said she felt like it was something from her past, but again, at 19, in that state of mind, sometimes a person is not capable of really hashing through it to see where it started. Maybe she is with the wrong master because she was running from her parents. Maybe this maybe that. All I can say (imo) is that when someone says "I want to die" and their master says "I dont want to hear it" that is an indication of; A) He doesnt care, or B. He doesnt KNOW how to care. Either or both of which are going to hinder this girl from getting help, hence my strong suggestion to run from him (at least for now) My statement/advice to her was not one of an anti-bdsm attitude, or anti-relationship. That is the way you took it, along with a couple of other people who decided to jump on the band wagon and go on crusade against me to state that my advice, repsonses, attitude, and what I ate for dinner were all wrong. I shouldnt "condemn", I shouldnt "judge" yada yada yada. It is not your place to presume that you know where a person is coming from. Who are you to lay down a statement of fact that I condemned something? Thats how you read it. That doesnt necessarily make it reality What should I have done before answering this girl? Should I have emailed all the posters on this site to see first if they agreed with me or not? Should I have run it past you for your stamp of approval, before giving my advice? Fact of life: People have varying opinions and views and interpretations of things. Its ok to tell someone that you dont agree, its not ok to try to tell them that they should think like you. I may not agree with other posters here, but did I post to them to tell them that their advice was wrong? Its up to the girl herself to determine what makes sense to her and what doesnt. As far as the word jugement. I used it in response to gumby who threw it up at me in regards to what I said to you. I used it with you because you threw it up with me in regards to the first message you left for me. In other words, I was trying to speak to each of you in your own tongue. I am very well aware of the meanings of the term judgement. As for your third post to me...To answer your question about why I didnt respond sooner. The answer: It was against my better "judgement". One of us had to be mature enough to put our differences aside and shut the fuck up until this girl got the help she needed. It wasnt going to be you or gumby or candie (who kept going on and on about it), so I stopped responding. I did not want to be a party to turning this girls thread into an argument with other people (unlike you and gumby and candie) who saw no problem in using her post as a stepping stone to pursue your own agendas. Even when I stopped answering to it, the 3 of you continued to post to me...there are several posts all in a row with nothing but the 3 of you attacking me..."marie this, marie that, marie the other thing"; to a point where the other posters began to reprimand for it. This wasn't about me, it wasn't about you, it wasn't about our opinions of each others advice. It was about this girl and her issue. We all gave advice and its up to her to take what she needs and leave the stuff behind that she doesnt agree with. I see that she hasnt posted here in several days, so I dont think its a big deal to answer you at this point. Now...You've given me your critique of my advice (several times) and Im going to give you my critique of your character. Your priorities and your judgement both suck. This girl needed support more than I needed a lesson in vocabulary, wouldnt you agree?? As far as the other two....Well, I dont find them worthy of a response. But you, as much as I disagree, I do not think you were trying to be malicous towards me, for the sake of a personal issue, hence my willingness to answer. I hope I have at least helped you understand my point of view, even if you do not agree with it. Now, you have said your piece (several times) I have said mine. I am now finished with this conversation. Regards, marie. This whole post should have been emailed to the parties involved. That is my opinion. Talk about hijacking threads. Ownedandcollared, I hope that you are feeling better now. We have not heard from you in a few days. I pray that you have taken the advice given here and sought help.

trippingdaisy -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 1:53:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa This whole post should have been emailed to the parties involved. That is my opinion. Talk about hijacking threads. Ownedandcollared, I hope that you are feeling better now. We have not heard from you in a few days. I pray that you have taken the advice given here and sought help. Thank You, MistressOfGa. You said it perfectly. i'm highly disappointed that several intelligent sounding people have decided to ignore that this topic is about a girl wanting help to not DIE. i think that takes presidence over any petty arguments or disgreements that one may have with other forum members. i see a huge lack of compassion here, and i feel...pity. ownedandcollared: Please! Let us know how you're doing?

marieToo -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 2:04:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa This whole post should have been emailed to the parties involved. That is my opinion. Talk about hijacking threads. really? emailed? Why didnt you email your non-related comment then? Instead you read the post, and copied the ENTIRE content of it to your own post and then passed comments on it; thereby making yourself a part of the very issue that you criticised. Now, if you have anything else to say, Im sure you will email me, given the fact that you are SO concerned about the hijacking of this girls post.

marieToo -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 2:06:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: trippingdaisy quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa This whole post should have been emailed to the parties involved. That is my opinion. Talk about hijacking threads. Ownedandcollared, I hope that you are feeling better now. We have not heard from you in a few days. I pray that you have taken the advice given here and sought help. Thank You, MistressOfGa. You said it perfectly. i'm highly disappointed that several intelligent sounding people have decided to ignore that this topic is about a girl wanting help to not DIE. i think that takes presidence over any petty arguments or disgreements that one may have with other forum members. i see a huge lack of compassion here, and i feel...pity. ownedandcollared: Please! Let us know how you're doing? Oh and look here. Another person bitching about people bitching about things other than the topic. A paragraph for me, and 6 words for the girl that youre supposedly concerned about.

LeatherBentOne -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 2:10:22 PM)
By all means, get help immediately !!!!! I mean now. Go to an emergency room or a crisis center without delay. You need immediate professional help. You are in dangerous waters.

Daddysredhead -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 5:38:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared i am an owned and collared slave. i live and serve my Master. He is wonderful, and i love Him very much. The problem, basically, is that i deeply want to die. what should i do? [:(] Dear ownedandcollared... First thing, I truly hope that you have been able to find some immediate help for all the things that you are feeling. You are a lovely young woman and I am sure that when the darkness that has fallen across your life right now is gone, that you are a source of true joy to those who know and love you. I would venture to guess that there are those who love it when something tickles your funny bone, and you laugh and laugh, and that laughter and smile brightens up the room. There are those who get a kick out of the little msgs that you send them, and I'm sure that there is a certain way that you look at your Master when only the two of Y/you are there that tells Him how much you adore Him that simply melts His heart. Don't take these little slices of heaven away from the ones who love and care about you. Be well, sweetness, get whatever help you need to make you whole. Bless your heart and your Master's, too. hugs ownedandcollared really tight

petwolf22 -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 6:01:38 PM)
The reason i posted what i did is that i would have been perfectly happy with you not trying to be so defensive on my posts as you've been on a lot of others, and not bothering to respond would have been very okay with me. Please nobody accuse me of hijacking (as the thread has already gone haywire), and we have not seen the poster on here for a bit, but this riles me a bit. When you point out that 19 yos will tend to defend their lovers without saying, gee, EVERYONE, regardless of age, gender, life, whatever, is likely to do that, yes, it comes across as a negative judgement of someone who doesn't know what they are doing. And the way you posted it, questioned the OP's judgement. You didn't ask questions regarding her statements about her Master, which nooow you all of a sudden are concerned with. i never stated anything about you being wrong, i merely stated that i thought that judging this girl's decision making skills about her life was really not what she came to this board for. i certainly wouldn't appreciate a stranger telling me that gee, well you're depressed so it must be because of this. The stranger doesn't know me, and we don't know the OP. Put forth a question: "How is your Master helping you with this?" Start a dialogue instead of telling (assuming) what the root of her problems are. Where did she say in her post that she had no car, no choices, was not in school, had no goals? Nothing like that listed on the profile either. So yeah, you were making a judgement and assumption based on information you didn't even have. So glad someone's willing to take on the responsibility of being the mature one. Enough...sheesh.

ownedandcollared -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 7:26:47 PM)
thank you for responding, all of you. And i am so sorry to have become the cause of so much conflict. Please believe me, it wasn't my intention at all, to make some of you argue. Someone asked me why they tend to bounce me from therepist to therepist. One was, in fact, the type of relationship that i have. The others didn't feel qualified enough to treat me. Its kinda funny, in a sad kind of way. i'm too crazy to be treated. Thank You all for your replies, and please take my sincere apology for causing the argument. ~amanda

Clothespingirl -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 7:34:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared Thank You all for your replies, and please take my sincere apology for causing the argument. ~amanda Christ, honey, you didn't cause a thing - some of these folks will argue about whether the sky is blue! They do it all the time, it's nothing to do with you! But the important question is - have you taken any of the good advice offered? Or has anything changed in your situation?

petwolf22 -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 7:48:50 PM)
Seriously, you weren't the cause of the argument at all, and i apologize if anything on my part was said that made you think that. i just get defensive when it comes to how some people act, and it's hard not to say anything about it. i hope you were able to find the help you need. Good luck.

marieToo -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 8:06:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared thank you for responding, all of you. And i am so sorry to have become the cause of so much conflict. Please believe me, it wasn't my intention at all, to make some of you argue. Someone asked me why they tend to bounce me from therepist to therepist. One was, in fact, the type of relationship that i have. The others didn't feel qualified enough to treat me. Its kinda funny, in a sad kind of way. i'm too crazy to be treated. Thank You all for your replies, and please take my sincere apology for causing the argument. ~amanda Amanda: WE have been the cause of our own arguing. not you. If you dont believe that, just check out some of the heated threads around here. Im sorry for my part in making you feel this way. I am going to email you if you dont mind. Not to tell you how to handle this, but just to be there for support or if you need someone to vent to. Hugs, marie

BLKSIRESwench -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 8:33:56 PM)
ownedandcollared, i wish you well, and agree with those who are telling you to seek help. About 15 years ago, i was right where you are, although i was 29 at the time. i wanted to share a small bit of my experience with you to let you know that there is help out there, but you have to take even the smallest step to reach for it. The first therapist i had? He was an idiot. He actually fell asleep during one of my sessions. Looking back on it now i can laugh. Well, actually, i laughed about it then too! But i kept on trying. Eventually i found a great psychiatrist who discovered that i had a chemical imbalance that had caused a "normal" bout of depression to spiral downward. i was prescribed an anti-depressant, which i only had to take for 6 months. That and some therapy helped me to find my way out of that deep, dark hole i was in. You can do it too. So many people here care about you, and sometimes that's why we might argue . . . because we all want you to feel better. So do whatever it takes to get there. As one previous poster said so accurately - you can't offer servitude to anyone if you're no longer here. Take care, wench

JohnSteed1967 -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 8:42:27 PM)
Owned I need to tell you my story, Simply because maybe it will help you and maybe it will help someone else along the way. in 2003 I lost my job due to to 9/11. I was working as a security guard, for the company that was on duty the morning of 9/11. As a result they lost all of their contracts. My wife was bi-polar and borderline personality (a dangerous mix she tried to kill herself twice) she was very loving and very patient for a long time. and then with out going into it she wanted a divorce. At the same time I was told to leave and go back home to SC. My aunt called and told me that they were putting both of my parents in the nursing home, and selling the family home. I came home to SC, not knowing what had happened to this woman that I loved and thought loved me, my support system gone, having to live in my own home on borrowed time and not having a job. I sat in my grandmother's recliner for two weeks unable to move, unable to speak, eat or sleep, every secound, every minuite, every day I kept praying to God to Kill me because I didn't have the strength to pull the trigger on my grandfather's gun myself. In the Following month, I had my car repossed, nearly hit a cop car, blew out all four tires on my mom's car. Got a job, got another car, had to get a new fuel pump on it, lost my job and was confronted by a real estate agent with a violent history (And had been locked up in the state mental hospital for violence). I then went on for another four months with no job and not knowing when I would be put on the street. Then as fate would have it. I got a Job, a Marvolus wonderful job! that paid me more than a living wage, and gave me insurance, a retirement plan. Respected me as an individual and not as a number (Like Evil-666-Mart) Today two years later I am still sad, and still hurting because of my ex wife. but Atleast I want to keep on living because of myself. I got Therapy and it helped to get all of those hurtful evil thoughts out and to unburden myself. The only thing I can tell you is this: Don't KILL Yourself! If I killed myself, I would be in a box buried at flat creek cemetary, end of story. But instead I have a new car, a good job, doing work I enjoy, trying to plan for my future I may not have my wife, I may not have a sub or slave, I don't even have a girlfriend/ But what I do have is my life. My aunt told me something that helped, didn't like it when I heard it, don't like it now but it sure did make sense. "I would rather be living under a bridge as a homless bum, than to be dead in a box"

JohnSteed1967 -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 8:45:05 PM)
As for therapist, Most of them have no clue. What helped me was more talking about it to them that listening to what they had to say. Hell, all they really ever told me was basiclly "Your wife was a mental patient, your life is better off with out her" what a bunch of dumd asses

maybemaybenot -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 9:09:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared thank you for responding, all of you. And i am so sorry to have become the cause of so much conflict. Please believe me, it wasn't my intention at all, to make some of you argue. Someone asked me why they tend to bounce me from therepist to therepist. One was, in fact, the type of relationship that i have. The others didn't feel qualified enough to treat me. Its kinda funny, in a sad kind of way. i'm too crazy to be treated. Thank You all for your replies, and please take my sincere apology for causing the argument. ~amanda Amanda: Thank you for letting us know you are still here and OK for the moment. Please continue to take it moment to moment and find it in yourself to take some of the steps many of us have offered as advice to you. You are in NO WAY too crazy to treat. You have had the sad misfortune of having inadequate help. You are not * crazy* at all, you are hurting and sad and in need of support and guidance to help you through what ever it is that is at the core of these thoughts and feelings you are having. I mean professional guidance and support, of course. Do not lose faith, their are plenty of Mental Healthcare Practitioners that can and willl treat you. As for you being the cause of the ridiculous bickering that a couple of posters decided to engage in. Well sweetie that just isn't so. You don't have that kind of power. These posters are free thinking adults and as such are held responsible for their own actions. They choose to do this, they chose to perpetuate it, even after being asked or having it suggested that is was not the time or place to do so. They chose not to honor a simple request to put it aside for this thread. That has nothing at all to do with you. They simply decided to continue their little pissing match, who knows why. But a certain amount of selfishness is at the core of it, not you or any external force/being. You are in a delicate place right now, and I ask you to ignore the posts that are irrelavant to your OP.. and re read and give careful consideration to the many, many concerned and supportive posters who offered good advice. mbmbn

Daddysredhead -> RE: A serious question (6/9/2006 9:48:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared Someone asked me why they tend to bounce me from therepist to therepist. One was, in fact, the type of relationship that i have. The others didn't feel qualified enough to treat me. Its kinda funny, in a sad kind of way. i'm too crazy to be treated. Thank You all for your replies, and please take my sincere apology for causing the argument. ~amanda Dear Amanda, Please know that no one who can articulate their feelings, etc. as you have here in this thread, can really be so beyond help. Sometimes the right professional can be as tricky as finding the right mate, but they are out there. Don't give up on yourself regardless of who you may think may have already done so. Take one day at a time, and if that is too much - take an hour at a time - but please do not stop seeking professional assistance, the right therapist or doctor may the next one you meet. As for apologizing for the other posters arguing, leave it up to them to sort out. It isn't for you to be sorry about another person's actions or reactions. Don't worry about them, focus on you, and getting better. All the best to you... Daddysredhead ps ~ I am going to assume that petwolf22 did a fastreply a few posts up and that her remarks are not directed to me, as that was my first post in this thread and I merely wished Amanda a speedy recovery from her current situation. Petwolf22's msg after mine seemed to indicate that I had bashed her in some way previously in the thread (which I did not, since that was my first post).

MistressOfGa -> RE: A serious question (6/10/2006 6:20:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared thank you for responding, all of you. And i am so sorry to have become the cause of so much conflict. Please believe me, it wasn't my intention at all, to make some of you argue. Someone asked me why they tend to bounce me from therepist to therepist. One was, in fact, the type of relationship that i have. The others didn't feel qualified enough to treat me. Its kinda funny, in a sad kind of way. i'm too crazy to be treated. Thank You all for your replies, and please take my sincere apology for causing the argument. ~amanda Amanda, you have nothing to apologize for. I hope things are better for you and you have decided to take some of the words of advice in this thread and get help. If you need anything, please contact me on the other side, even if it is just to talk.

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