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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/20/2012 7:35:08 PM   
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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/20/2012 8:47:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


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i'm not sure what you disagreed with.


Perhaps because there was nothing in my post which was disagreeable. You said that people shouldn't take the interwebs too seriously. Why not? Unless you have a different standard for behavior offline as you do online?

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just ignore the post.


Rather defeats the purpose of a forum, don't ya think? You are just as free not to post and to ignore the words as anyone else, you yet choose not to do so.. well, so do I. I didn't bash the guy. Not even close. You are inviting one of the few who took things in a good humor and suggesting they (me) ignore posts to which they (I) can contribute positive thoughts. You sure you want to go with that line of thinking?

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the ones who answered to snark OP didn't lower their standards by clicking the link.


How do you know? How do you know that even clicking that link 'would' lower their standards? Are you privy to the standards of all the posters here or just throwing stuff out to see what sticks?

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you kink is okay with me, or how does that tolerance thing go?


How do you know? Do you know what my kink is? Maybe it really wouldn't be okay with you.

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they lowered their standards by showing an incessant need to snark any1 that rubs them wrong. it's all good, since this board is about meeting needs and such. it's ironic that their snark fed OP's penis desires, as many have alluded to here.


Well, then I think you should do something about all those snarky people. What do you propose? Death by stoning? It is 4/20 after all.

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the reality is, every1 who's posting here does it cus they're meeting diff needs, enjoying it. i go back to the your kink is your thing is okay with me thingy.


Did you get something out of my post that would lead you to believe that YKIOK isn't also my thing?

You are saying that because it's the 'interwebz' don't take things seriously. What if serious is my kink? Aren't you doing a bit of pot, kettle, black there? Who are you to determine for everyone else what sort of experience the internet is for any given individual? Are you different offline than online so for you it's not serious? Just a question.

Do lower standards exist for the web or not? There's a question for ya. If they are, indeed, lower then wouldn't it behoove forumites who want quality to call out posts that fail to measure up to forum standards so that we get quality over quantity as often as possible. If they are 'not' inherently lower then you have to ask yourself.. "would it be acceptable for this guy to walk into a bar with this rather bizarre request."

If I want to take things seriously because that's my thing, you don't allow for that.
Why is my serious kink not okay? Why are you being so mean and trying to tell me to ignore or not to post? Who the hell are you? The internet police?

You're mean.

Go click the link.. it's perfect for ya.

lol, that was brilliant!

in all seriousness, i hope u know i never advocated all these things u suggested i did with your questions, including question your right to do it (actually complimented your post, and disagreed with 1 small pint u missed, which doesn't even matter to me). there's obviously a different online standard than IRL (as in many contexts), if you're being serious.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/20/2012 8:51:14 PM   
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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/20/2012 10:29:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Karmastic


there's obviously a different online standard than IRL (as in many contexts), if you're being serious.



Am I reading you right when my understanding is that your standards are lower when you are online so you put forth a universal/general statement that different standards hold for IRL? How do you justify that in any way and adhere to any sort of integrity? Yes, I am being serious.

It's not okay for the guy to walk into a bar with his request but it is if it's online.

Why? Why is it okay for one and not the other? What does the communication medium itself have to do with the standard of behavior an individual exhibits? I'm really curious.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 4:12:25 AM   
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I can only be amused by the prototypically transactional nature of the Domme mind.



Did you click? Why or why not?

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 4:19:01 AM   
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Surely this comes under. Your kink isnt mine. So condemming it should mean a mass of gold bordered emails.

But NO its a male sub, so condemming what he wants is ok.


"Don't involve me in your kink; I don't know you" /= condemnation of said kink. The lack of a relationship is the point, not the kink.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 9:43:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


quote:

ORIGINAL: Karmastic


there's obviously a different online standard than IRL (as in many contexts), if you're being serious.



Am I reading you right when my understanding is that your standards are lower when you are online so you put forth a universal/general statement that different standards hold for IRL? How do you justify that in any way and adhere to any sort of integrity? Yes, I am being serious.

It's not okay for the guy to walk into a bar with his request but it is if it's online.

Why? Why is it okay for one and not the other? What does the communication medium itself have to do with the standard of behavior an individual exhibits? I'm really curious.

i'm simply recognizing people act differently in diff contexts. of course people act diff online than IRL - that doesn't mean they turn into Dr Hyde. when's the last time you snarked someone IRL?

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 11:23:23 AM   
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karmastic, you might consider not projecting your standards or way of life upon others. We are all completely different and coming from different places. What one would allow, consider right and good or anything else, isn't what another will stand on. (Most may seem to do this or may do it to some degree or in some manner, but you seem to see black and white and attribute certain characteristics upon everyone.)

Many I have met from online and this site have been exactly the same in person as they were online. I can say that what you see with me online is what you will see in person. Not everyone hides behind a monitor just because they can. Not everyone is fickle and cannot stand on their own two feet and be who they are, any place they are. And some, don't justify poor behavior simply because someone can get away with it or everyone else seems to be doing it. (Didn't that go out by age nineteen?)

Standards man... we may not be perfect, but some of us have them. And yes... I would say anything I have said online... in person. Hell, if that is a lie, there are a number of people here that could expose it.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 11:32:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
when's the last time you snarked someone IRL?


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Yesterday, I believe.


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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 12:05:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

karmastic, you might consider not projecting your standards or way of life upon others. We are all completely different and coming from different places. What one would allow, consider right and good or anything else, isn't what another will stand on. (Most may seem to do this or may do it to some degree or in some manner, but you seem to see black and white and attribute certain characteristics upon everyone.)

Many I have met from online and this site have been exactly the same in person as they were online. I can say that what you see with me online is what you will see in person. Not everyone hides behind a monitor just because they can. Not everyone is fickle and cannot stand on their own two feet and be who they are, any place they are. And some, don't justify poor behavior simply because someone can get away with it or everyone else seems to be doing it. (Didn't that go out by age nineteen?)

Standards man... we may not be perfect, but some of us have them. And yes... I would say anything I have said online... in person. Hell, if that is a lie, there are a number of people here that could expose it.

yeah, really, i'm just kinda befuddled that you think i disagree with any of that - esp the part about considering or judging what's right or wrong for any one person. i'm sorry if you read more into what i said. to me, it seems the negative reactions to the OP are in conflict with the concept of some of the noble things you espoused.

i guess i've been posting online too long and assumed you knew what i meant. there was an entire discussion on this very board discussing different "rules of behavior" for different forums, most of them unwritten as it turns out. and how discussions can be very "different" in the politics/religion forum. you simply had a different idea of conduct (than the OP did) for the BDSM discussion forum.

that certainly translates to other areas, including IRL. would you wear jeans to a wedding? no? then you're obviously acting differently in different contexts. does that mean i should reply to you with a bunch of things i assume you don't agree with and say you're not always striving for higher standards?

i don't think I'm able to explain it to you any better. i enjoyed this discussion esp cus i had to keep wondering just how serious u are, or if you just really misunderstand me that much.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 12:08:01 PM   
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This was has been a great start to My Saturday.

At first when I read MissImmortalPain's post, I totally agreed. But then I clicked extra days. Couldn't help it. Lol

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 12:31:26 PM   
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karmastic,

Seemingly, I am not the only one that 'misunderstands' you and your true intent or motive. I don't care really how people post. However they post, they will get a response. I tend to speak directly and speak my mind or take of a thing. From time to time I may sound judgmental or as if I am directing. This I know about myself and have no difficulty in clearing a matter up or explaining myself or motive further.

I rarely get into things with people where misunderstandings abound. However, I am noting that you are new to these forums and seem to have some serious difficulty in being understood or have reason for lengthy debates, that tend to end with... we will agree to disagree or something like it, with nothing resolved. An argument/debate that went no where but an argument/debate.

Rather than debate a thing without insult somewhere down the line there is insult, from either side, but from what I am seeing, you tend to lead in that.

In this thread, someone did something that the majority found faulty for one reason or another and they expressed how they felt about it. You challenged that, as your right on a public forum. Kudo's... but... it really seems that you have come to a forcefulness in a manner that isn't conductive to proving a point or being seen as reasonable or someone that many wish to actually come to respect through a debate. I could be wrong... but, that is my take. Again, this is something to be expected on a public forum.

Now, if you would appreciate that I not evaluate your posts or anything else, then stop evaluating me, my post, my position in any debate and we can call it good and get back to the thread topic.

The man wants time added to his chastity and the responses of anyone that cares to respond. Not the right or not for people to respond as they do. The moderators have a job to do and they can determine if any of us are out of line. Until I see a gold letter from you, I don't consider you a mod and you won't be effective in moderating or attacking those that respond in a manner you find faulty.

Unless we can move on and go from talking about what we find wrong with one another... lets just stop this now, no winner, no need for a winner... but basically... each backing off and getting back to the topic or taking it private. Thank you.


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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 1:14:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

karmastic,

Seemingly, I am not the only one that 'misunderstands' you and your true intent or motive. I don't care really how people post. However they post, they will get a response. I tend to speak directly and speak my mind or take of a thing. From time to time I may sound judgmental or as if I am directing. This I know about myself and have no difficulty in clearing a matter up or explaining myself or motive further.

I rarely get into things with people where misunderstandings abound. However, I am noting that you are new to these forums and seem to have some serious difficulty in being understood or have reason for lengthy debates, that tend to end with... we will agree to disagree or something like it, with nothing resolved. An argument/debate that went no where but an argument/debate.

Rather than debate a thing without insult somewhere down the line there is insult, from either side, but from what I am seeing, you tend to lead in that.

In this thread, someone did something that the majority found faulty for one reason or another and they expressed how they felt about it. You challenged that, as your right on a public forum. Kudo's... but... it really seems that you have come to a forcefulness in a manner that isn't conductive to proving a point or being seen as reasonable or someone that many wish to actually come to respect through a debate. I could be wrong... but, that is my take. Again, this is something to be expected on a public forum.

Now, if you would appreciate that I not evaluate your posts or anything else, then stop evaluating me, my post, my position in any debate and we can call it good and get back to the thread topic.

The man wants time added to his chastity and the responses of anyone that cares to respond. Not the right or not for people to respond as they do. The moderators have a job to do and they can determine if any of us are out of line. Until I see a gold letter from you, I don't consider you a mod and you won't be effective in moderating or attacking those that respond in a manner you find faulty.

Unless we can move on and go from talking about what we find wrong with one another... lets just stop this now, no winner, no need for a winner... but basically... each backing off and getting back to the topic or taking it private. Thank you.


that's all good and fine, and taken in the best spirit. IMHO, us debating and expanding on the topic (notwithstanding perceived insults) is a worthy thing and contributes to a thread that would otherwise be dead. or at least, we're not stopping others from doing so. seems like you yourself are projecting gold letters onto me but doing it yourself.

i only hope that you will read my words, and try to avoid what we all do, which is to shoot them though our own emotionally charged prisms to read/see what we want to and not what's written. i will never assume things about you because of what you wrote. i will ask you first. and none of my actual words do that to any1 else.

i don't feel a need to take it further in private...but despite everything, i do sincerely thank you for your sincere input and opinions, here and in the future, whether it's off topic or not, private or not. it's all good to me since (hopefully) all of us learn and grow from these exchanges.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 1:21:54 PM   
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Am I reading you right when my understanding is that your standards are lower when you are online so you put forth a universal/general statement that different standards hold for IRL? How do you justify that in any way and adhere to any sort of integrity? Yes, I am being serious.

It's not okay for the guy to walk into a bar with his request but it is if it's online.

Why? Why is it okay for one and not the other? What does the communication medium itself have to do with the standard of behavior an individual exhibits? I'm really curious.




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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 1:22:55 PM   
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I think he absolutely should try it in a bar. He'll probably do a lot better.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 1:24:40 PM   
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I think he absolutely should try it in a bar. He'll probably do a lot better.


LOL... Any bar I ever hung out in, the boys and some of us girls might even... take his ass out back.


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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 1:34:25 PM   
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when's the last time you snarked someone IRL?


This morning. People that lack awareness of anything past the end of their own nose annoy me.


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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 1:36:04 PM   
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Ah, grasshopper, the sadist in you withers like a lilly in the hot sun. Come to the dark side. Let me make you cookies and we can talk all about giving a man everything he wants when he least expects it.

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 1:42:57 PM   
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cool, back to one liner snark...

you all forgot, he got off on the humiliation.

*distributes wet wipes and hand sanitizer*

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RE: A strange favor from a newbie - 4/21/2012 2:01:34 PM   
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Hey I typed more than one line and I was talking to TND anyway. By the way no one knows what the OP gets off on without first asking and then good luck getting the truth. For all any of us know he gets off on watching idiots on a forum argue with each other.

*edit to add* No offense to anyone that self indenifies as an idiot....I was not talking about you.

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