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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 1:21:34 PM   
JanahX


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I like it that Awareness is NOT PC - and that he has enough balls to say his truth. I wish more people would post their truth and not be afraid of being written up by the mods -

Some of these posters (OPs) are real fucking stupid, and why hold back on saying what everyone is thinking -?

I find you sharp as a tack and I hope you stick around even though the forums are boring as hell these days.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Actually, the forums have turned into a meaningless sludge of whitewashed opinion because of a self-important moderator who values their ego over everything else. There is naught here but the status quo. Opinions which deviate from the party line are sought out and eradicated.

This community fails to grow precisely because of the self-appointed oligarchy consisting of individuals like yourself and the other regulars who think their sheer longevity conveys special status upon them. An attitude you did nothing to dispel. Indeed, you've fostered that attitude to the detriment of the discussion here.

I for one will be glad to see the back of you. The forums are infinitely poorer for your rancid, biased, bitchy presence. Clearly you're an individual who should never have been given this kind of job as you're exactly the kind of broken personality who doesn't understand responsibility or neutrality.

And by the way, what the fuck is this anyway? A self-congratulatory little speech? Good grief, how pathetic.



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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 1:40:40 PM   
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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 1:42:28 PM   
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I wish Gamma the best, as I'd wish that for anyone struggling with issues.

I don't think the boards have been bleached down, but then we all have different motivators.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 2:12:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Actually, the forums have turned into a meaningless sludge of whitewashed opinion because of a self-important moderator who values their ego over everything else. There is naught here but the status quo. Opinions which deviate from the party line are sought out and eradicated.

This community fails to grow precisely because of the self-appointed oligarchy consisting of individuals like yourself and the other regulars who think their sheer longevity conveys special status upon them. An attitude you did nothing to dispel. Indeed, you've fostered that attitude to the detriment of the discussion here.

I for one will be glad to see the back of you. The forums are infinitely poorer for your rancid, biased, bitchy presence. Clearly you're an individual who should never have been given this kind of job as you're exactly the kind of broken personality who doesn't understand responsibility or neutrality.

And by the way, what the fuck is this anyway? A self-congratulatory little speech? Good grief, how pathetic.


Out of dozens of people I've sent to the forums from the other side, before Alpha said in some sticky (?) in P&R that things were going to change, and then Gamma came and did the grunt work, they ALL came back to me with..."It's a nonstop sh*t slinging match there in the message boards and I don't enjoy it."

I prefer how the boards are now. Some of the new threads remind me of how CM was when I first came here. The different subjects are informative...instead of each thread sounding almost exactly the same because of snarkfests. Seeing posters who haven't posted in years has been FUN. Besides, spring is here and many of us are spending less time at the computer and more time doing un-fun things like yard work and spring cleaning (shudders over thinking about my basement). Aren't more of us here during winter and fall? Boring and bleached down? Gah, I hate starting threads and I don't enjoy all the monotonous brawling matches between the same people over and over and over.

Hm, some threads would be more fun to read if I just let some members' posts stay hidden but with a thread like this one...eh, I like to unhide them to see if they have stopped behaving like an ass.



< Message edited by CynthiaWVirginia -- 4/26/2012 2:55:58 PM >

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 2:38:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Best wishes for your future; thank you for your patience, humor and fairness.


aJ, I only got one gold note from Gamma, and it was because I quoted a post that violated TOS...and...I may have crossed over the line with my own sorta snarky reply.

Gamma, angelikaJ put it quite well and I cannot improve on this.

I hope you are merely on hiatus and will be coming back eventually. If the mods get private letters dripping with hate and belligerance, like a post or two I've seen, then you guys must have cast iron stomachs and nerves of steel to keep volunteering to put up with more shiite.

Seeing examples of the spewage makes me wish that more people were permabanned, if that is really possible to do. I'm still on the first page and don't know if I can handle reading more just yet.

Thank you for all the time you spent stepping up to bat.


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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 2:52:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Never fear, once I find another job I will likely have a lot less time sitting at a desk with nothing to do.



Oh, I don't know. I work full time (and then some) and yet somehow, I'm always fucking here.


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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 2:59:59 PM   
Karmastic


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Both times you contacted me, it was over my poor communication, which led to your misunderstanding. That's on me.

I've been a moderator and admin staff before - it's a thankless JOB. Yes, an unpaid JOB. Thank you performing that job. Your work and efforts are appreciated. Most people are too wrapped up in their own little argument about why they are right to get the big picture and let mods do their jobs, without arguing and bitching & complaining. So the fuck what if mods get it wrong sometimes - let it fucking go and move on so they can focus on doing other clean-up work.

I've been posting on topic-driven forums for many decades, and this one is no different. Plenty of really good, thoughtful, intelligent people who enjoy discussing, debating, learning, growing, giving advice, and having fun. Plenty of others (with plenty of overlap between groups) thrive on being asses, snarky and needlessly mean. People like that are transparently filling their self-loathing need to feel better about themselves by putting someone else down. And plenty of people just fucking argue for the sake of arguing, like all that bullshit arguing against the truism that learning more about your complimentary role is a waste of time or useless because blah blah blah. Fucking arguing with a truism - REALLY? And regardless, it's a good thing and okay to disagree, but how one does that speaks to the kind of person they are.

And I've observed plenty of mob rule here, which judges people unequally for the same behavior - sycophant for one, bully-pulpit demonizing the other. People like that act like their snark is oh so entertaining and cute, but they really just look like insecure fucks jumping down the throat of some safe target. Usually a newb who posted a clueless OP, which kicked-in some self loather's need to feel superior by jumping down the OP's throat. If they really cared that much, they would volunteer to take over for Gamma and actually add some real value to the board (besides their trollish but entertaining Fox reality TV drama type).

Still, I enjoy reading the posts from people in all groups, and don’t see the nastiness, snark, or typically dysfunctional social-order as a big whoop. People (often myself included) need to get the fuck over themselves, and realize this is just the internet. I actually like that there is divergence of opinions, and conflict. The universe needs that balance on every level, and that's what drives human improvement and evolution.

I hope you return soon, and resume contributing to the community.

Ps to remaining mods - will you please stop needlessly and capriciously moving threads? Who the feck cares if something closer to off-topic was posted in BDSM? IMHO, the added clean-up value is far outweighed by dealing with orphans with links.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 4:52:36 PM   
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My best wishes accompany you.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 6:29:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma

Disclaimer: The post below is the sole opinion of the moderator writing it, and is not an official statement of CollarMe or CollarChat.

I wanted to take this opportunity to thank the forums. I will know more later today, but I may be going on a temporary or indefinite leave of absence. I wanted to relate my experience, to you the members, so that there is a better understanding.

When I started I had stopped posting as my regular member account except for very few small comments here and there. I knew no one on the forums on a personal level, and never took internet things truly personal. When I returned and started reading, it seemed that staff was overwhelmed and wanting to make some changes. The forums had changed from the community I had been posting in for 6 years.

I contacted Alpha and offered to help, because it appeared to me, with my former experience, that they needed more staff. I was right and there were several things needing done. I took the policies and guidelines conveyed to me by the chain of command and began to implement them. There was heavy resistance in the beginning, but as I started to establish a better relationship as staff with more forum members, and I opened up via messages on violations, coaching on how to better word things and stay within guidelines, things started to improve.

I admit that in P&R I had to come in swinging a large stick to gain everyone’s attention. Once that was established a large majority started to change their posting styles. This had a positive effect on the forums, and some old members started to return and post in that section. P&R will always be a volatile area as those are subjects that are emotionally charged and provocative by nature, but slowly the amount of complaints reduced. This had a ripple effect on the entire forums, and it was not just me that did this but other staff as well. I am proud of those forum members that stepped up as leaders of the community, leading by example and reminding others of the guidelines.

This brings me to the crux of all of this. In any forums, chat room, channel, group or wherever people will gather that has staff that must enforce policies; it is a cooperative effort between staff and members to make it the best it can be. While there are a few that may not believe me to have been objective, objectivity is a must when staff must step in and that is why I retired my user account. That is also why I decided that policy and guidelines, as they are, would be the guiding force along with the chain of command. Working in a team effort with other staff and whoever wanted to contact me in the spirit of cooperation, has had a positive effect on the forums. It is regrettable that during that time we lost a few posters, but we have gained so many new ones and returning ones.
This cannot stop, it must not stop, for a community such as this to survive and grow. It takes members and staff together, to bring in new members and show them the ropes. It requires objectivity, and if that is compromised then another moderator steps in to handle it, and that is what is happening. It is within each of you on what this community will be, not on staff. It is the members that drive the forums, and staff only directs traffic really. When staff must step in, it is already a failure as this indicates that guidelines were not maintained and the community could not deal with it, in an appropriate fashion, so then we all fail.

These forums are not a failure, they are a great success. There is so much knowledge here, and many have the willingness to share that. All of this is why I personally volunteered and why I believe others have as well.
Please remember this as time moves forward, and if I do not return, or return for a while, the time I assisted all of you as a volunteer, has been an overall enjoyable one. Keep at it, strive to be better, work with staff, and know that as a large forum it may have its problems, but we have one of the best communities of internet members anywhere.

Thanks you all for being a part of CollarMe,
VideoAdminGamma



Ya know what I like the most about CM Mods?

(And I've been beaten up by more than a few).....

They always spell well, have decent grammar and mean well.

Good stuff.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 6:47:23 PM   
thishereboi


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

ORIGINAL: Awareness

Oh, I'm always happy to point out your desperation. One day you may gain some awareness of your own.



As easy as you are to bait, I still thank you for playing. I will hand it to you, you can be an amusing creature play with. Even with your one dimensional repertoire.

Kaliko is right, it has been boring around here lately.

And apparently, I did a bang up job of screwing up the quote thingy.......... ah well.



The first "[ quote] " should be at the very beginning without the backslash. (and without the space which I put in to stop it from screwing up my answer) The second one should be at the end of the quote

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 6:51:20 PM   
Marini


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quote:

Please remember this as time moves forward, and if I do not return, or return for a while, the time I assisted all of you as a volunteer, has been an overall enjoyable one. Keep at it, strive to be better, work with staff, and know that as a large forum it may have its problems, but we have one of the best communities of internet members anywhere.

Thanks you all for being a part of CollarMe,
VideoAdminGamma


What a heartfelt post!
Thank you for sharing your experience with us, and why you wanted to be a CM moderator.

Thank you for your stepping up and volunteering here.


Do not get hit by a bus!!!
If you don't return as a moderator, please come back as a member, and play with us.

Peace and Blessings to you!

***************Cheers to VAG!!!!**********************

And all the other moderators on CM!!!
Thank you for putting up with us!



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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 7:14:35 PM   
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To those who think that only those who kiss mod ass stay on the forums.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3984222/mpage_1/key_mods%252Ccrazy/tm.htm#3984281

Im still here. If you've been booted, it's your own stupid assed fault.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 8:13:40 PM   
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Hat tip.




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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/26/2012 10:31:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

After XI's reign how could anything seem heavy handed?


XI wasn't heavy handed.

Not that I've had a problem with VAG, either.

But there has been a substantial drop in the enjoyment I derive from being here, unrelated to the moderation (or, at least, unrelated to any moderation of me). And I do see more fluff than I used to see. Of course, there was a lot of frothing around the mouth starting to replace the originally tasteful-yet-pointed banter which contributed to the flavor of the place, which I assume is what VAG meant by the whole "6 years ago" thing (I tend to agree on the timeframe).

That's a common occurence.

Some people poison the well, the treatment damages the patient, and when the infection is over, it still takes ages to rehab the body before it's back to normal. And the rehab is hard work by critical people. After rehab is done, it takes even longer to shrug off the lingering weakness and restore full vitality. I'm hoping to see those last stages, too, since this used to be a very nice board.

I didn't sink thousands of posts into this place for lack of something to do.

I'm not going to put a lot of thought into it right now, though.

Not what this thread is about, methinks.

IWYW,
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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/27/2012 5:52:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness
quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
It's really easy to avoid receiving gold letters by not making personal attacks. Since you seem to be mostly incapable of communicating without attacking, no wonder you perceive bias where I see applying the rules with a heavy hand.

It's really easy to avoid everything by having a milquetoast personality which runs with a crowd and doesn't have the balls to stick up for anything, but that's a pretty shallow way to live your life. Personal attacks my ass - this has been pure bias from start to finish with the usual suspects given free reign to do exactly as they please while 'moderation' has been applied to those who don't kiss ass.

Perhaps you find that an acceptable way to live but I find it induces nausea in most reasonable human beings.

Although I wouldn't put it as strongly, I agree to some extent with Awareness that there are certain difficulties with moderation generally on CM - it may be bias with some mods but of course it can be hard to tell what the motivations are too, and the mods also deserve some cred for doing what can be a bothersome job for nothing. It may just as much be an issue with the rules of the forum itself because apparently there is no differentiation between those that initiate attack and those that respond to it. Imagine if that morality was applied to the real world? The Allies would be just as culpable as Nazi Germany; one that defends themselves just as culpable as the attacker! If one doesn't go with the flow or agree with some prevalent opinions, especially on the P&R area, it can make things very unpleasant. Persistent trolling (as distinct from lively debate) is another issue. Having said that I do think Gamma did improve things on the P&R thread. It does seem somewhat more civil than it was earlier last year, and that is a good thing even if less a spectator sport.

< Message edited by Anaxagoras -- 4/27/2012 5:54:02 AM >


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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/27/2012 6:07:48 AM   
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Gamma, you are in my prayers.

Thank you for all the hard work you have done all over the boards!

I do hope things work out well. You will be missed if You have to go for whatever reason....and I selfishly hope you stay....but, as always, your home life comes first.

Stay strong, and if you have to go, remember you are loved and I hope you can return as quickly as possible.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/27/2012 7:16:16 AM   
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I only got one gold letter from you but it made me laugh so hard, I woke Mom up.

Take care and I hope to see you about.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/27/2012 7:34:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

I only got one gold letter from you but it made me laugh so hard, I woke Mom up.

Take care and I hope to see you about.

I got em all.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/27/2012 7:36:09 AM   
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I've only received a few but haven't a clue which mod actually sent them. I read them and kinda do a "yeah whatever'.

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RE: In the event I am hit by a bus - 4/27/2012 8:51:41 AM   
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I always loved you. Your actions have been sincere and you always went the extra mile, even mailing copies of deleted posts etc. You will be missed. Hope your time off is fruitful.

Best wishes,
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