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ChatteParfaitt -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 2:55:27 PM)

Bless your heart.




FantasyKisses -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 2:56:51 PM)

Well, I decided to follow your lead. And putting this info in public helps others cut through the crap to find the info that may help them stay SAFE.

You know.... community responsibility and what not. Dom/mes being expected to be leaders and stick to Their owned as their source for verbal punching bags.

But I wouldn't want to keep you from your superiority complex would I?




Lockit -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 2:58:45 PM)

Well damn... Still choking here! [:D]

Now the email makes even more sense! ROFL!




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:01:31 PM)

Say what?

We gave him info to stay safe.

That you were called on the jade thingy is not my fault. It appears you are a liar a/o don't have a clue. Not that I would know. I am not intimate with Castle Realm. I thank gawd for this.

You have more safety info, by all means trot it out.

You just want a pissing contest, well I win so there ha ha ha ha ha.

(There is a point here.)




Lockit -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:02:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FantasyKisses

Well, I decided to follow your lead. And putting this info in public helps others cut through the crap to find the info that may help them stay SAFE.

You know.... community responsibility and what not. Dom/mes being expected to be leaders and stick to Their owned as their source for verbal punching bags.

But I wouldn't want to keep you from your superiority complex would I?



That's not what you said in email... not even close, though there is a hint of it.

Lady, as a dominant I don't feel that I must teach what I do or don't know to just anyone. I didn't punch him and in fact by his own words, felt I wasn't attacking him.

However... you seem to have a real attitude about how people post around here and have been blasting the forums with your personal attacks upon many of the posters, recently. Let me remind you if you have forgotten or maybe you just never heard...

The mods will decide what is appropriate and what isn't and if you have a problem with any post or poster you can report them. However, they may recommend that you use the block function.




LaTigresse -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:02:36 PM)

I've had a lot of water this afternoon so the pissing contest might be in question.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:07:29 PM)

I think the OP left in view of the pissing contest.

Wanking fodder?





OsideGirl -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:10:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: FantasyKisses
I used to write for Castle Realm. And I knew Jade.

Really? That's extremely interesting to me. I've searched for her death certificate and was unable to find it. According to people I've spoken with who knew Lord Colm in real life when he was attending munches in Texas, he claimed that he was in a long-distance Ds relationship with slave jade, and they saw each other face-to-face infrequently.

No one I've ever met or spoken with had ever met jade in real life, although there was one woman who had an extensive IM friendship with her, and believes that if she was a fake (as in really just Colm making her up), then she was one of the best fakes in the history of the internet.

My current hypothesis is that she really lived, but was a homebody because of her illness, had almost no real-time BDSM or Ds experience, and as a result would make up increasingly fantastic tales about the true nature of BDSM because of her isolation and sexual frustration. However, the total lack of documentation and witnesses points toward her existence being an urban legend that Colm created. That's why I wanted the piece of paper. There can't be too many people who died of complications from chemotherapy due to a non-cancerous disease in Massachusetts that year. And yet, there don't appear to be any obituaries relating to that.

I'd appreciate any help you could provide.


Ya know Red, I've often wondered about that because I don't know anybody that ever met her face to face. I've always thought that Castlerealm lacked reality.




RedMagic1 -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:14:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Ya know Red, I've often wondered about that because I don't know anybody that ever met her face to face. I've always thought that Castlerealm lacked reality.

I finally decided to look into it, and started a thread about it in a Fetlife leather history group about a year ago, and got a lot of very interesting responses, both public and private, but nothing definitive. I will probably start a thread here in General in a week or so, pulling the key things together, so the information is someplace publicly searchable. I need to set aside some time for that, and I don't have it right now.




ResidentSadist -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:29:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: FantasyKisses
I used to write for Castle Realm. And I knew Jade.

Really? That's extremely interesting to me. I've searched for her death certificate and was unable to find it. According to people I've spoken with who knew Lord Colm in real life when he was attending munches in Texas, he claimed that he was in a long-distance Ds relationship with slave jade, and they saw each other face-to-face infrequently.

No one I've ever met or spoken with had ever met jade in real life, although there was one woman who had an extensive IM friendship with her, and believes that if she was a fake (as in really just Colm making her up), then she was one of the best fakes in the history of the internet.

My current hypothesis is that she really lived, but was a homebody because of her illness, had almost no real-time BDSM or Ds experience, and as a result would make up increasingly fantastic tales about the true nature of BDSM because of her isolation and sexual frustration. However, the total lack of documentation and witnesses points toward her existence being an urban legend that Colm created. That's why I wanted the piece of paper. There can't be too many people who died of complications from chemotherapy due to a non-cancerous disease in Massachusetts that year. And yet, there don't appear to be any obituaries relating to that.

I'd appreciate any help you could provide.

I also heard she didn't exist and she was his sock puppet along with many others. I don't know of anyone that ever met Jade in real life? Thanks for the story about the IMs. I would be curious to know how that rumor turned out.




forcedsensuality -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:34:43 PM)

thank you for all the useful info everybody, and thank you FantasyKisses for acknowledging that i'm trying my best and that i was just asking a qn because i'm double checking and because i'm seeing my old friend with the new dark side this afternoon.. and the question was a bit of a shot in the dark..

my newly sadistically-oriented admirer and i, we care about each other so we're going to take it slowly and carefully,.. that's where my thinking is and what my question was about.. let's have danger and fear of pain but we're gonna make damn sure there'll be no long term damage, so she'll be practicing her aim and swing and we'll be talking to people who do this stuff for a living to make sure there's none of the deep bleeding or bone damage or other bodily problems i've come across in my researches.

it's a bit weird seeing that angry poster reacting .. i've been spanked quite a bit to varying extremes, a few times by pro-dommes, an old girlfriend used a shoe horn, and another had that awful bamboo.. luckily no damage.. y'know, who cares, i haven't gone hard, i'm careful with my body, you people are the people to ask about maximising pain while avoiding damage after all, and most responses gave me a good range of information, thank you..

my "domme"friend and i will do a field trip or two to some experienced pro-dommes who'll talk through this stuff with her and there are the usual mistress manual type books lying around..

the specialty cane i sent away for was the lighter "junior" sort, so probably not the big club some heavier models are, and y'know, if there's any doubt, we'll get a pro to do the hard strokes..

the flaming in this thread reminded me of something else though ..
in a couple of forums on bdsm subjects one thing i noticed was that some dommes seemed to take a very inflexible approach to everything, just *a*few* dominants, a couple or so, as though they used their role as tops or dommes so as to always be "right" or have the last word .. i used to think that on the forums, i certainly wasn't in any sort of submissive relationship with them but sometimes they seemed to think bossing me around was how they dealt with me daring to disagree with them .. as though they were dominants in real life !! Because of the huge number of submissives and the relatively few dominants it used to worry me that some dominants were probably always able to get someone who'd do exactly what the dominant wanted, .. that somehow the "roles" would interfere with the supposedly neutral negotiation stage .. a dominant on another site was very rude to me earlier today .. right from the beginning of the chat, she behaved like the boss, expecting me to go along with her .. it was so illogical,.. the thought that one day i found myself tied up at the mercy of someone like that who doesn't want to hear my side of the story and just does what they want terrifies me .. and y'know, even if the initial pre-role bargaining is fair, there are so many more submissives in the sea i do worry that i might concede something i don't want to to a prospective dominant, just to keep them from dropping me then and there

luckily my lady friend and I are sensitive people, we're not jaded or hardened by "scene" experience so what we'll be starting off with will be pretty light .. we're middle class kids .. getting to agreeing we'd both like to do some dominance and submission and deciding to do it with each other is itself a pretty wild place to get .. like a couple of teenagers first sex !!

dealing with this slightly silly fetish for caning might wrap up a loose end for me, it's an experiment .. i hope we don't get too used to it.. she is hitting me after all.. i don't want things to escalate

so my qn was really about doing low impact stuff regularly so she can be mean and relentless and we can spread it across a sunday afternoon without laying bruises on bruises or me getting a bad case of piles .. i think stripping for her, submitting,, her admitting to sadistic impulses, me processing my childhood fears and finding a place for my masochism, converting that stuff into adult deviance .. well that psychological stuff is probably the big impact stuff.




kalikshama -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:35:32 PM)

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How hard/ how many strokes so she can cane me as often as possible for most pain
(wihout permanent injury)

WE were thinking every three weeks ..

what else do you do to a schoolboy ?

strap/tawse in between ?

has to be mean enough for me to be scared ..


Have you ever been caned? Just the thought of a cane in the hand of certain sadists is all that is necessary for me to be scared.




FantasyKisses -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:38:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

How hard/ how many strokes so she can cane me as often as possible for most pain
(wihout permanent injury)

WE were thinking every three weeks ..

what else do you do to a schoolboy ?

strap/tawse in between ?

has to be mean enough for me to be scared ..


Have you ever been caned? Just the thought of a cane in the hand of certain sadists is all that is necessary for me to be scared.



No, I believe he and the lady he's exploring this with are newbies. And you're right, they can be extremely dangerous. But they can also be safe. Just depends on how they're used--like any tool.

Ever cut yourself with a flathead screwdriver? lol!




Lockit -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:40:39 PM)

Looks like somebody just joined the club she said we were all in.




FantasyKisses -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:45:49 PM)

Not a problem hon. I'm sorry it took so long. Most of my links are dead, but then I have been in the Life for a long time. Sadly, you can e-mail yourself a ton of URLs, it's keeping the Lifestyle books that gets difficult.

Take it slow, take it safe. Know yourself. Make sure your lady does too.

A little known secret that is actually an altruism:
If you haven't mastered yourself (including conduct online), you are not in control and cannot master another.
If you have not mastered yourself (including conduct online), you cannot give up that control to another.

I really hope this helps you and anyone else who reads it. We're supposed to be a supportive community. We're supposed to be able to go to one another for kindness, compassion, and advice. The community set these guidelines in place as a checks and balances system so that we could keep the abusive people who were just looking for a sub to cut up away. (A similar incident happened to a friend of mine.)

The influx of PCs being as common as toasters, and any jerk with $10 being able to buy time online has really hurt this community as much as it's helped broaden it.... I practice a lot of the dying arts, such as deification, so if you need any help, let me know. It's the least I can do for my brethren.

Don't let these people get you down though. They are not reflective of the community, and remember that the reason they are so ugly online is because they hate their own lives and aren't getting up and fixing it. That's not what a real Dom/ina does. A Dom/me is a leader. A teacher. An instructor.

How else can they train a submissive to go deeper into slavery?




OsideGirl -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:47:33 PM)

So, did you know Jade face to face?




FantasyKisses -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:49:42 PM)

Hopefully not.... But if I did, at least I did the work you refused to, gave viable assistance inline with the SSC motto, and I also defended someone from being verbal abused. Tell me, what have you done today?

Perhaps you may choose to feel inspired and give real assistance that can actually help someone next time instead of joining the bitchfest?

Seriously, it won't kill you to help someone else. Or to treat them like a human being.




Post Edit, there is a 'd' in abused. That is all.




FantasyKisses -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:52:59 PM)

No, I wish I had. I was in D/FW and had to leave Castle Realm and the Life formally due to paralysis from an industrial accident in '03. We did conferencing over MSN's IM, tons of e-mail and tons of proofing. She was really good at hiding her illness. She was really strong. She could be a tough cookie if you rubbed her the wrong way, but she was the kindest and most generous lady.

I only found out last year that she passed.

If you happen to know how I can get in touch with her daughter, I would really appreciate it please. I would like to send my condolences.




Lockit -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 3:58:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FantasyKisses

Hopefully not.... But if I did, at least I did the work you refused to, gave viable assistance inline with the SSC motto, and I also defended someone from being verbal abuse. Tell me, what have you done today?

Perhaps you may choose to feel inspired and give real assistance that can actually help someone next time instead of joining the bitchfest?

Seriously, it won't kill you to help someone else. Or to treat them like a human being.



You want to know what I did today? Okay... I will give you a hint. I assisted a young woman trapped in an abusive relationship with one of those fine old time dom's. Even sent her a little cash.

I did research on Colorado Indians and history for a book I am writing. I searched kindle for more books.

I advised my daughter on a sick infant.

I talked to a couple of submissives about career choices and the economy.

I did some email, but am not quite done, but am taking my domly little breaks. I will talk to another submissive tonight about a relocation he is making and another about a health issue.

And... as you can see... I took some breaks on the forums, just to prove how un-domina I am by determining who was worth a lesson and who wasn't. Damn me... damn me.. hang me from the highest tree... I gotta see that a guy asking questions really wants to learn before I take on the responsibility of teaching him one damn thing. Then I believe I still have a choice... damn me... damn me...




FantasyKisses -> RE: how often to safely cane a "boy" hard enough to make him beg & cry ? (4/27/2012 4:05:56 PM)

Fantastic. And I mean that sincerely.

So why is it that you go to the 'how to' guides and cut people down? What is the difference?

These folks posting here do not diminish their status as a human. And so what if he lists as being dom? If you have been in the Life for awhile, you've no doubt noticed that the lines between Tops/Doms/Masters and bottoms/subs/slaves has blurred because of trendiness with terms.

These folks, until they prove otherwise, should be given the boon of your guidance and expertise. I bet it could help a lot of people. You've also undoubtedly noticed that a lot of philosophical aspects of our world are vanishing in favor of kink? You could help change that.

And if you only treat others respectfully in ONE place within these forums, let it be the 'how to' guides. This area, more than any other on this site, is crucial for not only bringing safe practices to people, but also the place where newbies can come and ask a "stupid" question and know they and their kink are accepted.

I do not see how that is so difficult. And you're one of the kinder flamers. You are unhappy or displeased with my reaction to your posts, which I consider to be not only stupid, but petty and pointless. So why should this kid be any different from you?

The only difference was that you and your group started bullying him and belittling him. And I'm standing up for him. That's it.




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