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JeffBC -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 10:37:19 AM)

My own "pain processing technique" is to just let it roll on through my body... noting the sensory input but not placing much weight on it, eg: "yup, that hurts all right." I focus on the fact that in the end, "pain" is just some nerve signals intended to let me know that damage was happening. So mentally I acknowledge the message and move on.

That's probably not a good idea though because I can't really see an inert lump just accepting whatever as very fun for your Mr. I'd have to guess that a certain amount of screaming and wriggling is a part of the point. So in that light doesn't it just make sense to go with bondage & a gag then scream and wriggle to both of your hearts' content?




Lucifyre -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 10:44:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

My own "pain processing technique" is to just let it roll on through my body... noting the sensory input but not placing much weight on it, eg: "yup, that hurts all right." I focus on the fact that in the end, "pain" is just some nerve signals intended to let me know that damage was happening. So mentally I acknowledge the message and move on.

That's probably not a good idea though because I can't really see an inert lump just accepting whatever as very fun for your Mr. I'd have to guess that a certain amount of screaming and wriggling is a part of the point. So in that light doesn't it just make sense to go with bondage & a gag then scream and wriggle to both of your hearts' content?



That anger I mentioned earlier...the bondage will keep me from jumping off his lap and telling him he is an evil bastard and not to ever listen to me negotiate a scene ever again unless he likes the lawyers office...same reason for the gag LOL
I say mean things when I'm mad.
I'll be doing plenty of squirming and hopefully get past the angry part and even cry.
I want to cry. I want him to push me past the mad and get me to a point where I am an emotional puddle of goo with my ass on fire. I trust him ennough to take me there, I don't trust me enough to get there without a certain amount of force.

Make sense?

GG listen to me whine about what *I* want LOL ;)

Lucifyre




Lucifyre -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 10:47:16 AM)

OH! I almost forgot, I am also going to be bringing a heating pad to sit on for 10-15 minutes before we start too. I <hate hate hate> getting a spanking on a cold bottom, it's as bad for me as getting spanked (or caned) on a wet bottom. It's like the 10th degree of hell right off the bat...makes for a lot of struggling to endure. If my skin is warm, then warmed with a spanking, it's a much smoother curve to climb for me.

Lucifyre




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 10:50:52 AM)

FR

I'm fascinated to see the range of responses here on pain management techniques (some of which work for me, and some of which would not). Pain is such an individual thing - both the experience of it and how to manage through it. So very fascinating.




JeffBC -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 11:01:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
I'm fascinated to see the range of responses here on pain management techniques (some of which work for me, and some of which would not). Pain is such an individual thing - both the experience of it and how to manage through it. So very fascinating.

*chuckles* My own technique is (at least by my own lights) a very dominant method... it's MY freaking body and I WILL control it and it's responses. It's actually an affront to me when I cannot do so.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 11:03:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
I'm fascinated to see the range of responses here on pain management techniques (some of which work for me, and some of which would not). Pain is such an individual thing - both the experience of it and how to manage through it. So very fascinating.

*chuckles* My own technique is (at least by my own lights) a very dominant method... it's MY freaking body and I WILL control it and it's responses. It's actually an affront to me when I cannot do so.



That is a very interesting perspective on control. I like.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 11:06:17 AM)

When I think about some of the stuff I did, and what I like and don't like, I KNOW that there are things that I just don't read as "pain". But I am not an endorphin person, and I always sought out intense experiences. The hook pull didn't physically "hurt", though the experience was very vivid and deep.

I am envious of your fun.[:D]




Lucifyre -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 11:10:30 AM)

hook pull?

as in back piercing hook pull? or anal hook tied up on your tippy toes with your hands bound behind your back while getting whipped and dancing around type hook?

god dammit, is it Saturday yet? <eg>




BitaTruble -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 11:37:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucifyre

Does anyone have any tips on how to best process (or even prepare for aside from a warm up) the pain?


You know, at first I was going to give you a few tips but then, my inner sadist came out and I started thinking about it being your Mister's birthday and all and, well, my answer is going to be very different now is because my thinking is.. it's his birthday, not yours. You can get him a pair of jeans from Walmart anytime, but how often to you get the chance to gift someone with Armani? You want to know how you can process the pain to make the session better for him.. well, as a fellow sadist, my answer would be .. don't. Don't make the attempt, don't try. Just feel, react. Give him ever naked, piece and particle of each smack. Give him that hate, the anger, the tears and he'll turn it all into fun and joy.

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It's consentual, I want it, I know it's going to be rough and nasty and I even bought non waterproof mascara LOL
But I'd like to get through it all the way without losing my temper (which I'm known to do when I'm hurting that much) The reason it will be a no safeword thing is because I want the scene to end when HE wants it to, not when I think I've had enough, yes I know he will be pushing past limits and that's ok.


It's okay. Go ahead and lose your temper. I'm laughing here just thinking about it from a sadists point of view.

I hope your Mister reads this.. cuz I actually have a tip for him. While she's all bent over your knee, drop the Sunday comics in front of her and make her read it out loud during the session. That makes it really, really hard to focus on 'anticipation' of the next smack and, end result (no pun intended) is in inability to process pain. It can be really hard to process that level of pain without focus and the colorful Sunday Comic strips from the newspaper are great at diverting. ::wink:: Happy birthday to ya, Mister! Oh, and a p.s. to you: Oak hurts way more than pine. Just sayin'. [:D]

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So, pain ...any suggestions?


Okay, ::cackles:: I edited this part.

Take a nice warm bath before the session as that will help bring your blood to the surface and flush your receptors with nourishment so that you can really feel what's going on when that wood hits you. Wood is such a bitch and hurts as much as damn near anything - weapon of ass destruction extraodinaire and first choice of many of my fellow sadists. If you have long hair, braid it. Give the Mister a handle (think of it like a bow you put on the package.. it's just thoughtful even though not a requirement). Braids are great though and in a session without safewords, breathing in your own hair should be avoided if possible plus it allows easier access to see that beautiful mascara running down your cheeks. Win/win.

So, The Wood (you know, a new oak hairbrush wrapped up in some black paper with a nice red ribbon would be a great way to 'open' the session!) Dwell on that while you are in the tub. Think about how unyeilding it is, how much it's going to hurt and how much pain you're going to be in.. that will help counteract the natural relaxation you will start to feel from being in a warm tub. Get your mind into high gear while you set your body up for a sadist's Disneyland. Oh, and it'll be even better if you are still slightly damp when you begin. Don't hold your breath during the session either (which if he has you reading the comics, you won't be able to do that anyway, so that would be a good thing. Okay, maybe not as good for you, but good for Mister. weg)
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Please keep smart assed remarks to a minimum, this is a serious question and not fucking wank fodder so none of that retarded shit some of you pull.

Lucifyre

I hope you don't take what I wrote as smart-assed because I mean it sincerely. You already have the suggestions to help with your pain in this thread.. focus, deep breathing, meditation.. but, I hope you give at least a little thought to what I've written so, ask yourself this question: "In what way will my processing pain enhance 'his' experience?" If the answer is jeans, then by all means give him jeans but if the answer is Armani, maybe you'll consider giving him that instead.. especially if this is going to be one of the 'once in a lifetime' sort of presents.

In any event, I hope your Mister has a grand time on his birthday. As for you.. enjoy the pain while you have it (and with wood, that could last a few days.. hehehe) and remember it fondly when it's gone.

No need to thank me for this post.. I can just imagine what you are thinking of me right now and.. I've been called worse. lol

[;)]

edited to add: Technically, this post is off topic, so feel free to report it and perhaps the mods will make it poof.. but, I hope you don't because even if you decide to process, there may be a maso or two out there who hadn't considered an alternative to processing and might get something out of my post. .your call though. Have fun and I mean that sincerely, too.. even if your fun comes after the fact with cuddles and chocolate kisses. [:D]




poise -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 12:14:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucifyre

Mkay so yea... Sunday is Mr's birthday and of COURSE I am gonna be the one bent
over taking the smacks (yumminess)


I'm a big wuss when it comes to pain, from any source, but I rely on the strength of
my mind to get through. I'd suggest, instead of thinking of it as "taking it" change your
thought process to "giving it". As in, what you are giving him.
And when you are at the verge of wanting to cuss (and don't have a gag in place)
scream and holler Happy Birthday Master!




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 12:47:17 PM)

-fast reply-

I kind of agree with Bita. Assuming he is wired that way, it might be more enjoyable for him if you don't try to control yourself and process the pain.

As a general rule I don't try to use coping techniques, rather just let it happen and my brain and body will react as they please. That said, I seem to have a very strong flight instinct when pain gets close to my threshold (I have been dragged back across the room by my ankles more than once after fleeing, even when I wanted the experience) and my Husband doesn't like to give me the easy option of being restrained to prevent it, so I have had to work on this. I find it helps to tell yourself the pain is inevitable and will come to an end eventually. I also find it helps to be in a position in which I can let my body go somewhat limp as relaxed bodies cope better with impact. It sounds like that would work with the position you described.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 12:51:28 PM)

Bita, even with my pain coping mechanisms and my love of endorphin rush from pain, a seasoned Top knows exactly how to get the reaction they want. I'm not sure that needs special consideration. Just saying....[:D]




Lucifyre -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 12:52:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

I hope you don't take what I wrote as smart-assed because I mean it sincerely. You already have the suggestions to help with your pain in this thread.. focus, deep breathing, meditation.. but, I hope you give at least a little thought to what I've written so, ask yourself this question: "In what way will my processing pain enhance 'his' experience?" If the answer is jeans, then by all means give him jeans but if the answer is Armani, maybe you'll consider giving him that instead.. especially if this is going to be one of the 'once in a lifetime' sort of presents.

In any event, I hope your Mister has a grand time on his birthday. As for you.. enjoy the pain while you have it (and with wood, that could last a few days.. hehehe) and remember it fondly when it's gone.

No need to thank me for this post.. I can just imagine what you are thinking of me right now and.. I've been called worse. lol

[;)]

edited to add: Technically, this post is off topic, so feel free to report it and perhaps the mods will make it poof.. but, I hope you don't because even if you decide to process, there may be a maso or two out there who hadn't considered an alternative to processing and might get something out of my post. .your call though. Have fun and I mean that sincerely, too.. even if your fun comes after the fact with cuddles and chocolate kisses. [:D]


I want to give him the Armani of course because he is worth it. My ability to process the pain for him allows him to continue the scene longer than he normally would by reaching past my normal thresh-hold. I want to do that for him. And I am hoping it is not a once in a lifetime thing, I know he enjoys being a sadistic bastard and I'd like to be able to take it for him. Yes I get something out of that too...use your imagination, go ahead, get dirty <giggle>

I am not taking even one bit of your post as smart assed. In fact I smiled the whole way thrpugh reading it. Well thought out and quite a bit of personality written into it. Thank you <3
I sincerely hope that the mods don't nuke it. I don't consider it off the topic, just a different perspective of an answer to my original question and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. The reading the comics part is in the *not gonna happen* category, at least after the warm up stage of the scene anyway, but the rest of it is sound advice IMO.

I am thanking you, and the names I might consider calling you are not derogitory in any way shape or form <grin>

Lucifyre




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 1:20:45 PM)

All great suggestions. I have found the more aroused I am, the more I can take. The Man constantly tells me to relax and to breathe, which only serves to turn me on more, since he's commanding me.

Also, counting can help, not sure why.




amaidiamond -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 1:36:42 PM)

For me, no matter how well I prepare myself to "cope" with what my owner is going to dish out... he always somehow manages to push just past that so i am not coping at all but a crying, shaking, whimpering, clinging, mind racing, panting gasping breath filled puddle of goo...

For "trying" to manage thapain i use breathing, distraction, singing songs in my head etc... it works for a while..

key words being "a while" weg




littlewonder -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 1:48:35 PM)

When the pain starts to make me panic or just hurts way more than I think I can stand, he has me concentrate on him, his voice and my breathing. Most of the time this works. Sometimes it doesn't. when it doesn't work I just scream and pull on the chains or ropes or however I'm bound, until I can't scream any longer and/or my body just gives up and gives in.




Buzzzz -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 2:45:20 PM)

Breathing deeply usually helps absorbing the pain.. Next thing you, know, you won't be able to sit for a week an a half :)




Lucifyre -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 7:25:20 PM)

Thank you everyone for your valuable input. I cannot stress enough how important it is to me. My brain sometimes gets very linear and it is extremely helpful to have other peoples opinions and ideas to help me work things all the way through.

Mr has read the entire thread and he understands that I want him to be in complete control of the entire scene and enjoy himself without worrying about pushing past my normal limits. He knows that I want to give him the gift of my pain and my tears and my love. He also knows I chose the hairbrush because I absolutely HATE wooden implements. They are a certain type of pain that just overwhelm me.

We did some discussing this afternoon before he left for work and we did put a couple of simple limits in place that he will respect. For intance: During the warm up phase of the scene there can be as much chatter, banter, smart assery and silliness as he sees fit, however once warm up is done all of that will cease so I can get to headspace. This is a neccessary limit so that he can go longer and harder and I can take it. I also meekly requested that during the intense part he keep me sexually arounsed...he understands that the decision is entirely his, but he also gets that I will be able to take more if I am excited. I won't be able to rock back and forth like I normally do due to the position I will be in, so as much screaming and cussing as I need to do is ok, so the gag is out. I will be squirming and crying and trying like hell to get away though so the wrist and possibly waist bondage is in, he'd rather be able to spank me without having to fight to keep me in his lap. He said he is going to see how things go and decide later on if he is going to use a plug or an anal hook in my ass or not for the added humiliation of being stuffed in public.

I already have my outfit picked out (schoolgirl theme). My tasks for tonight are to bathe, shave and get to bed early so I am well rested for tomorrow.
And it's 10:30 so I already blew that one LOL.

Night all!
Lucifyre




WestBaySlave -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 10:17:32 PM)


When I was with a rather severe sadist I learned to not contextualize it. It wasn't him doing this to me, it was simply an event that was happening that was out of my hands like sickness or tiredness and not something worth thinking about, so I just kind of zoned out and thought about other stuff. Perhaps that sounds negative, but it really wasn't, it was using the same mental channel I use not to despair during illness to cope with pain, and it really helped prevent resentment happening afterwards.

More importantly, it didn't seem to impede his enjoyment of it, which was the important thing for me. ( I only find mild pain erotic, severe stuff like being caned to the point of blood is something I do for my significant other if he wants, but don't enjoy it. )








WestBaySlave -> RE: Pain Processing (5/4/2012 10:24:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

My own "pain processing technique" is to just let it roll on through my body... noting the sensory input but not placing much weight on it, eg: "yup, that hurts all right." I focus on the fact that in the end, "pain" is just some nerve signals intended to let me know that damage was happening. So mentally I acknowledge the message and move on.

That's probably not a good idea though because I can't really see an inert lump just accepting whatever as very fun for your Mr. I'd have to guess that a certain amount of screaming and wriggling is a part of the point. So in that light doesn't it just make sense to go with bondage & a gag then scream and wriggle to both of your hearts' content?


Funnily enough, this sounds just like me. It's weird, but though I'm not at all tough-acting, my first instinct with pain is to not react and to lock down my responses as much as I can. This has gotten a rather large startle response from sadists as I went from apparently near-placid to a top volume scream when the "cannot take" threshold's been crossed.




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