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frankly, i'm becoming a bit disillusioned and even angry that every time i do this, rather than just saying thanks, or even better, offering up things that can constructively add to the thread, so many jump in just to un-constructively tear down the thread, or the advice or info i'm humbly offering. Or, try to belittle me for the most ridiculous things that don't mean anything. it's fine if you disagree with me - I actually like when that's done constructively, because we all learn from it (esp me).

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
no, i don't know how many emails they get, or how long that would take. perhaps 10 extra seconds each email? it could even be automated. how many do you think they get, and how long do you think it takes? coming from an IT background, including helping to support and maintain enterprise-wide sites, this doesn't seem like a big deal to me. esp if you factor in future time savings that better communications offers (E.g., less BS complaints).

well, you get my point - we obviously disagree.

still, thank you for informing me that the mods here are different than the staff on other side. i don't know what you meant by trying this again, since i'm not sure how i would know that there's different staff on each side. sorry if perhaps you told me that before and i missed it.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
lol doood, it's the interwebs. you're saying you haven't clicked on any porn link, that could have led you right to a virus? [;)]

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ORIGINAL: shallowdeep
Given that there are probably quite a few similar profiles and that it's quite possible a large number of people will report each one, I wouldn't want to be the poor volunteer stuck sending out the individual thank you letters. Does an automated response honestly get you anything better in terms of communication? If so, what? I don't mean those questions rhetorically, I'm genuinely curious what you see as the advantage. To me, simply removing the profile promptly is more than adequate acknowledgement.

I'm actually not just claiming that hypothetically. A couple weeks ago one of those profiles you mention happened to pop up on the home page for me. Given the less than convincing wording, the pictures taken off the web (Google's Search by Image has its uses…), and a suspicious link from a URL-shortening service, my curiosity was indeed piqued. For me, though, the curiosity stemmed from the head that goes "Hmm, something here doesn't look right at all…", not the one that tends to merely think, "Hot!"

Checking where the URL was redirecting in the HTTP Response Header and then quickly scanning the link with a handy online tool confirmed my suspicions of the file's malicious nature without the need to actually risk downloading anything.* I reported the profile and also used the site's Support page to briefly describe the problem under the 'Other' category. Within 48 hours, the profile had been removed. That seemed like a perfectly reasonable and satisfactory response to me.

The file I looked at had been downloaded over a thousand times. Given that rather dispiritingly high figure, a thread like this just might benefit someone and I don't see it as a bad idea. But avoiding such things really should be common sense - downloading and opening files of uncertain provenance online can't be called a smart idea. That goes at least doubly so if in the pursuit of wank fodder.

*Because I'm weird, once I knew it was malware targeting Windows I actually did eventually download the zip archive to poke around some with the .scr files – but only in a non-admin account in a non-Windows OS in a virtual machine set up explicitly for the purpose and running on a non-Windows host.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

after being on boards like this for about 10 years, including being Jewish on a board dominated by Arabs and Muslims, i don't think i have a thin skin.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
may i humbly suggest that clicking reply and typing "thanks" to those who report profiles will alert people who do so, that it's not going into a black hole.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

I've seen several profiles using photos of very hot young women (18-19) that include links to see more of their photos (duh, obvious red flag there that it could be a scammer).

The reason I'm posting this is because I'm sure some men (well, I admit I was) are curious and may follow the link anyway fer kix.

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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain
The only part of this thread that bothers me is that you copied the link here not realizing that some idiot might only read part of your post and then click it. Never underestimate the power of stupid.

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ORIGINAL: shallowdeep

Given that there are probably quite a few similar profiles and that it's quite possible a large number of people will report each one, I wouldn't want to be the poor volunteer stuck sending out the individual thank you letters. Does an automated response honestly get you anything better in terms of communication? If so, what? I don't mean those questions rhetorically, I'm genuinely curious what you see as the advantage. To me, simply removing the profile promptly is more than adequate acknowledgement.

I'm actually not just claiming that hypothetically. A couple weeks ago one of those profiles you mention happened to pop up on the home page for me. Given the less than convincing wording, the pictures taken off the web (Google's Search by Image has its uses…), and a suspicious link from a URL-shortening service, my curiosity was indeed piqued. For me, though, the curiosity stemmed from the head that goes "Hmm, something here doesn't look right at all…", not the one that tends to merely think, "Hot!"

Checking where the URL was redirecting in the HTTP Response Header and then quickly scanning the link with a handy online tool confirmed my suspicions of the file's malicious nature without the need to actually risk downloading anything.* I reported the profile and also used the site's Support page to briefly describe the problem under the 'Other' category. Within 48 hours, the profile had been removed. That seemed like a perfectly reasonable and satisfactory response to me.

The file I looked at had been downloaded over a thousand times. Given that rather dispiritingly high figure, a thread like this just might benefit someone and I don't see it as a bad idea. But avoiding such things really should be common sense - downloading and opening files of uncertain provenance online can't be called a smart idea. That goes at least doubly so if in the pursuit of wank fodder.

*Because I'm weird, once I knew it was malware targeting Windows I actually did eventually download the zip archive to poke around some with the .scr files – but only in a non-admin account in a non-Windows OS in a virtual machine set up explicitly for the purpose and running on a non-Windows host.

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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frankly, i'm becoming a bit disillusioned and even angry that every time i do this, rather than just saying thanks, or even better, offering up things that can constructively add to the thread, so many jump in just to un-constructively tear down the thread, or the advice or info i'm humbly offering. Or, try to belittle me for the most ridiculous things that don't mean anything. it's fine if you disagree with me - I actually like when that's done constructively, because we all learn from it (esp me).

If this is happening every time you offer "humble help", perhaps you might wanna look in that mirror you referred us to.

Perhaps it is the way you communicate, not only in your offered help threads, but other threads, that get you the reactions from others that you seem to be angry about.

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Karmastic
Or, try to belittle me for the most ridiculous things that don't mean anything. it's fine if you disagree with me - I actually like when that's done constructively, because we all learn from it (esp me).

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

IMHO, anyone dumb enough to click a link like that, on a profile like that, deserves a virus.

You really let your dick lead you that much?

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
no, i don't know how many emails they get, or how long that would take. perhaps 10 extra seconds each email? it could even be automated. how many do you think they get, and how long do you think it takes? coming from an IT background, including helping to support and maintain enterprise-wide sites, this doesn't seem like a big deal to me. esp if you factor in future time savings that better communications offers (E.g., less BS complaints).

well, you get my point - we obviously disagree.

still, thank you for informing me that the mods here are different than the staff on other side. i don't know what you meant by trying this again, since i'm not sure how i would know that there's different staff on each side. sorry if perhaps you told me that before and i missed it.

Actually, I did.  It's on the thread that you created about the spam filter.  I have to wonder if I go into too much detail in reply or it's a matter of skimming replies on your part. 

When you made the suggestion, you did specifically say type.  I had also considered that it could be made an automated process, but if it was, I'm not especially sure that would remove the black hole concept.  I would have to think that automated would incur cost, and if that's the case, you're not even dealing with Support anymore.  The only decision maker that I'm aware of for that area is the owner of the site.  Support could pass the suggestion along, but you are still back to black hole, unless you were thinking the owner would respond to you, personally.

From what I've seen here, a response such as thank you does not achieve the result (less time spent where you say less BS above) that you think it does.  Rather, it means to some that two way communication has been established and it continues.  Some months back, there was a thread regarding the forum side and a thank you reply for each ticket a member submitted.  (Keep in mind, this works two different ways.  A post on the forums can only be reported once.  A dick pic on the profile side can literally be reported by as many members as who chose to do so.)  That thread was filled with complaints.  Plenty of stories about how the "thank you" prompted people to continue wanting to know what action was taken, complaining that their (the member's) report wasn't resolved the way they wanted it to be, and how many additional emails the simple "thank you" involved.  That thread was a great eye opener as to the way members deal with the volunteers and how much certain members here expect the people who are donating their time to cater to them personally.

No, I don't think you have an appreciation for the sheer volume of the personals side of the site.  My way of researching how many people actually join this site each day is rather long and involved, (other members have better methods) but it's several hundred every 24 hours.  (Trivia - on average, one hundred males who check the submissive box from the US alone.)  A percentage of which will figure this is an anything goes site and have main pics and profiles that reflect that.

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma

Fast reply

If things were as easy as they seem, and support staff do things because they want to help, then apply logic and realize there is likely something missing from the equation.

I think there was about 400 support tickets processed once, times 10 seconds each, divide by 60. That 66.66 minutes can be better utilized processing other tickets, or trying to get some downtime from processing support tickets.

The automated message may make someone feel better, but if it is automated then it really does nothing. If people want to help, the more reports on a profile or pick, the higher the priority it is given.

Support staff for the personals side and the forums side are two different groups.

The solution to any issues involving a site and a community of members is called cooperation. Any antagonistic approach diminishes cooperation. I have been stressing this since joining staff.

Thank you all for being a part of CollarMe,
VideoAdminGamma

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

after being on boards like this for about 10 years, including being Jewish on a board dominated by Arabs and Muslims, i don't think i have a thin skin.

I don't know if I would agree with that. You seem to go from zero to butthurt at the drop of a hat. Chill out a bit and don't take everything so personally.

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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frankly, i'm becoming a bit disillusioned and even angry that every time i do this, rather than just saying thanks, or even better, offering up things that can constructively add to the thread, so many jump in just to un-constructively tear down the thread, or the advice or info i'm humbly offering. Or, try to belittle me for the most ridiculous things that don't mean anything. it's fine if you disagree with me - I actually like when that's done constructively, because we all learn from it (esp me).

If this is happening every time you offer "humble help", perhaps you might wanna look in that mirror you referred us to.

Perhaps it is the way you communicate, not only in your offered help threads, but other threads, that get you the reactions from others that you seem to be angry about.

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Karmastic
Or, try to belittle me for the most ridiculous things that don't mean anything. it's fine if you disagree with me - I actually like when that's done constructively, because we all learn from it (esp me).

i originally just included my prior quote above, but came back to add your original reply to me to show just how full of BS your words are...

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

IMHO, anyone dumb enough to click a link like that, on a profile like that, deserves a virus.

You really let your dick lead you that much?

you failed to mention that i have not had a problem with random people disparaging me. i have a problem with YOU, (and select others) on several occasions, replying simply to disparage me.

if some j-a is going to tell me i deserve a virus, and ask me if let my dick lead me around, after i just admitted i was dumb, and i'm trying to help others avoid the same - no, no no...

the short answer is - no, i won't put up with your rude bullshit. i will call you on it. i don't care if i'm seen as butthurt (someone else childishly used that term above).

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Good grief. You are one sensitive, whiney assed dude.

Now, there is some rude bullshit for ya.

Enjoy your stay at Collar Chat.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

i'm just going to be really blunt here. this is not the first thread that i've started, with sincere intentions to help others, and/or perhaps even offer suggestions for improvement on the board, or just contribute.