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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/11/2012 10:59:34 PM

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Way to be duplicitous!

You don't really understand the word duplicitous, do you?

He will by the time he answers

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/11/2012 11:05:42 PM

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/11/2012 11:53:55 PM

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... that the OP is completely FALSE

Incorrect. Your womb references are not germane.

Incorrect. Your post is nonsense.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 6:26:03 AM

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Please explain how your posts are germane?

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 6:34:50 AM

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In a theocracy I thnk this discussion would be relevant. in a secular republic aren't religous beliefs a personal matter and the basis for personal belief not public policy? If we are going to start quoting the bible as a justification or as an excuse or as a reson to discriminate we are going to have the type of civilized society that existed when it was written aren't we? Do we really want to be part of a Iron ager middle eastern theocracy?

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 6:37:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mupainurpleasure

In a theocracy I thnk this discussion would be relevant. in a secular republic aren't religous beliefs a personal matter and the basis for personal belief not public policy? If we are going to start quoting the bible as a justification or as an excuse or as a reson to discriminate we are going to have the type of civilized society that existed when it was written aren't we? Do we really want to be part of a Iron ager middle eastern theocracy?

There are many in this country and apparently several on this board who wish for exactly that.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 6:43:02 AM

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Please explain how your posts are germane?

They are entertaining sshhhhh. I love the contradictions. I love the dehumanizibg caricatures ofthose he disagrees with, I love the name calling and insults, I love the reliance of the most skewed biased sourcing available, I love the denial of facts, I love how he squirms to maintain his close minded world view when you create cognitive dissonance with real facts, I love how he dismisses those facts with the use of "libtard". It's performance art he's a liberal playing a caricature of a conservatie. Once you realize that it's entertaining

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 6:51:43 AM

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From both the OP and YOU -- that is, unless you think your mother was just a prop, and you were born from "dust", as opposed to woman?!!

I think that souls don't exist on account of both the zero actual evidence for them and because of all the evidence of what actually animates us. As such scriptural passages on biology tend to read as hilariously dumb.

However, that doesn't mean they don't warrant discussion, there's a large contingent on the pro-life side that doesn't understand biology, history and so on. But they think that's ok because they have this one book that explains everything. It's sometimes worth taking the time to stop and explain that they don't even understand that book.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 6:52:19 AM

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"Flawed" to you... not to millions of others.

PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
oh here's a list black and white contradictions Your belief is your right just don't tell me the thing isn't full of obvious contradictions

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 6:56:01 AM

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He may just be getting hot under the collar that atheists know more about the Bible, think about how frustrating that must be.

And even more infuriating, quoting it back to us is useless, it has even less effect than quoting Sesame Street.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:32:16 AM

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They're "germane" to anyone who can READ. Try it sometime... just for fun?!!

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:37:34 AM

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...denial of facts

Pretty much sums up EVERY one of YOUR posts -- when "the facts" contradict the looney LibRat view, you simply ignore them.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:40:50 AM

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Ronald Reagan: "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:45:33 AM

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Ah yes...the genius who figured out you don't actually NEED the funding--just quadruple the national debt, change the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation in the world, and transfer ownership of 25% of U.S. assets to foreign investors, all during your eight years of administration. That's showing 'em how it's done!

Even his own economic people admitted their policies were a failure. And the right has been praising those same policies ever since.

As Cheney touted, "Ronald Reagen proved deficits don't matter."

We're living in why they do.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:46:14 AM

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I think that souls don't exist...

Of course you don't, as Libs are soulless -- but your projecting your empty selves on others doesn't make it so.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:50:08 AM

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...quadruple the national debt, change the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation in the world, and transfer ownership of 25% of U.S. assets to foreign investors

The above actions and failures of Baroccoli O'Fuckup and the criminals on the Left are another discussion.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:51:59 AM

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...atheists... useless

Yep, that seems accurate.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 9:56:58 AM

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He may just be getting hot under the collar that atheists know more about the Bible, think about how frustrating that must be.

And even more infuriating, quoting it back to us is useless, it has even less effect than quoting Sesame Street.

Most atheists I know , know and understand the bible only too well, which is WHY they became atheists.
Of course I am not saying that its the same for all atheists/agnostics or that there arent people of faith, who "know the book" without delving into the "theology, philosophy and dogma"
thats my disclaimer and Im sticking to it.

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 12:24:06 PM

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The problem with the OP is that Fightdirecto gives his own definition of "breath of life." He talks about it as the act of breathing air into the lungs. But many Christians apparently believe that the "breath of life" refers to the Soul. Their objection to abortion is that no one knows for certain when the Soul ~the essence of the person~ enters the body. A careful reading of the citation will show there is wide disagreement about the definition. The OP's cherry picked premises are just too simplistic for the question he raises. Just my

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RE: Life does not begin at Fertilization or conception ... - 5/12/2012 12:27:31 PM

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Most atheists I know , know and understand the bible only too well, which is WHY they became atheists.

I was an atheist until I saw your avatar. Now, I'm a believer. Sorry. I just couldn't resist.

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